BudakFit Posted August 27, 2021 Report Share Posted August 27, 2021 Wah so many hidden places to have groups fun sex orgies shiok! Like what I have know haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 27, 2021 Report Share Posted August 27, 2021 Singapore would likely be the first federal territory in order to stop the racial conflict from worsening. 1969 riots would have been worse and even more pronounced in Singapore. An emergency could also be called, so it would also have not prevented the constitutional amendment to downgrade Singapore, Sabah and Sarawak to states of Malaysia instead of equal partners with Malaya. Or perhaps Singapore would have ceased to exist as a state and merged with Kuala Lumpur, and eventually Putrajaya and Labuan, to form the Federal Territories. So Singapore postal addresses would end with "Singapura, Wilayah Persekutuan" On the other hand, Singapore would remain as the commercial hub of Malaysia and the most expensive place. MNCs would place their Malaysia HQ in Singapore and a smaller version in Kuala Lumpur to handle any government relations. People in other states will still say Singapore has the worst food but won't be verbally bullying like now when Singapore is a separate country. There will sadly be no 'city state' comparison to Hong Kong, so HK would be the example to use for small sovereign states. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danvin Posted August 27, 2021 Report Share Posted August 27, 2021 The previleged group will no longer be the majority . There is no need for the GRC and ethnic quota for HDB flats. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ivanl Posted August 27, 2021 Report Share Posted August 27, 2021 On 8/28/2021 at 1:27 AM, danvin said: The previleged group will no longer be the majority . There is no need for the GRC and ethnic quota for HDB flats. Instead, got racial clusterfuck politics like Malaysia is going through right now. No thanks. Our system not perfect but better than the neighbour up north Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lonelyglobe Posted August 28, 2021 Report Share Posted August 28, 2021 On 8/28/2021 at 1:14 AM, Guest guest said: Singapore would likely be the first federal territory in order to stop the racial conflict from worsening. 1969 riots would have been worse and even more pronounced in Singapore. An emergency could also be called, so it would also have not prevented the constitutional amendment to downgrade Singapore, Sabah and Sarawak to states of Malaysia instead of equal partners with Malaya. Or perhaps Singapore would have ceased to exist as a state and merged with Kuala Lumpur, and eventually Putrajaya and Labuan, to form the Federal Territories. So Singapore postal addresses would end with "Singapura, Wilayah Persekutuan" On the other hand, Singapore would remain as the commercial hub of Malaysia and the most expensive place. MNCs would place their Malaysia HQ in Singapore and a smaller version in Kuala Lumpur to handle any government relations. People in other states will still say Singapore has the worst food but won't be verbally bullying like now when Singapore is a separate country. There will sadly be no 'city state' comparison to Hong Kong, so HK would be the example to use for small sovereign states. HK got China support, SG got India support, so OK la.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted December 14, 2021 Report Share Posted December 14, 2021 Maybe no more Causeway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lonelyglobe Posted December 14, 2021 Report Share Posted December 14, 2021 On 12/14/2021 at 1:35 PM, Guest Guest said: Maybe no more Causeway will still be there but function like our BKE or PIE.... More important to this question would be under who's leadership, opportunity will be base on merits and ability or race and relationship? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Tomato Posted December 14, 2021 Report Share Posted December 14, 2021 I think most Singaporeans may wish for a Johor-Sg state to be under the current Spore government with current prosperity, more land and human resources. For that to have happened, these must taken place: - When Raffles came and 'leased' Spore from the Johor Sultan, he could have carved out more land from Johor state into the lease, or better still, take over the entire Johor state. The straits settlement would comprise Johor-Spore. Then likely today, when kicked out as a state, we would have the Republic of Johor. That lease agreement by Raffles sets the foundation of how Spore would be split out from the Federal of Malaya. - When LKY took over 'Spore', he must have, in his life time, settle the racial issues before big time foreign investment can take place. Take note that it was 'easier' to manage small Spore (even that had taken time till the early 90s for significant results), not to mention a bigger combined state with more racial issues. With no racial peace, we would not have prospered in the 70s- 80s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Relag lah bodoh Posted December 14, 2021 Report Share Posted December 14, 2021 Life in Malaysia actually quite good. Lower stress levels. Food galore. Condo, car very cheap. Many places in KL to cruise. If Spore was part of Malaysia, we won't have so many Malaysians flooding Spore. Spore is so limited and limiting in many ways, yet so many foreigners want to come here compete for scraps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 15, 2021 Report Share Posted December 15, 2021 On 12/14/2021 at 8:58 PM, Guest Relag lah bodoh said: Life in Malaysia actually quite good. Lower stress levels. Food galore. Condo, car very cheap. Many places in KL to cruise. If Spore was part of Malaysia, we won't have so many Malaysians flooding Spore. Spore is so limited and limiting in many ways, yet so many foreigners want to come here compete for scraps. As a current Sporean, looking from the Spore's perspective, things are cheap. If you are a current Msian earning locally, you will not think that things are cheap. Spore may be limiting in many ways, but for foreigners to flock in, that means that there is money to be earned (for them). And I understand from my foreigner PMET friends, except for the status of being a Sporean, they find it easy to compete with Sporeans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singalion Posted December 15, 2021 Report Share Posted December 15, 2021 On 8/27/2021 at 9:50 PM, BudakFit said: Wah so many hidden places to have groups fun sex orgies shiok! Like what I have know haha You never shared the hidden places to us... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singalion Posted December 15, 2021 Report Share Posted December 15, 2021 On 8/23/2021 at 5:05 AM, Steve5380 said: The bus between SG and KL would not need to stop at any border. But you forgot the traffic jam at all borders... would be like the lebuhraya U-S (highway) from JB to KL on a Friday after 5pm (stop n go for 5 hours) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Relag lah Posted December 15, 2021 Report Share Posted December 15, 2021 On 12/15/2021 at 10:05 AM, Guest guest said: As a current Sporean, looking from the Spore's perspective, things are cheap. If you are a current Msian earning locally, you will not think that things are cheap. Spore may be limiting in many ways, but for foreigners to flock in, that means that there is money to be earned (for them). And I understand from my foreigner PMET friends, except for the status of being a Sporean, they find it easy to compete with Sporeans. As a current Sporean, looking with my eyes wide open, employers want to hire the cheapest they can find. They always have, even like 20 years ago. If they don't have to pay high or pay cpf, they'll hire. Why? Employers will tell you operating cots and rental are high ie expensive. The only people they can reduce cost is on employees. Things are cheap? A 3 room resale flat goes for $400k ++. You can buy condo in posh KL area with that amount and even save some $$. The only foreignrs that flood Spore are the ones from poorer countries (sorry guys but it's true). Because of exchange rate and son on. Even the affluent are moving to China. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Kulala Lampor Posted December 15, 2021 Report Share Posted December 15, 2021 Last time I worked in KL, Malaysia before. Many public holidays one. Tengku's birthday hoilday, Sulran's birthday holiday. Wah shiok, go makan and go Chin Woo pool, KL's SCC. Or take train to Dang Wangi, shop posh areas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singalion Posted December 15, 2021 Report Share Posted December 15, 2021 (edited) On 12/15/2021 at 12:54 PM, Guest Relag lah said: As a current Sporean, looking with my eyes wide open, employers want to hire the cheapest they can find. They always have, even like 20 years ago. If they don't have to pay high or pay cpf, they'll hire. Why? Employers will tell you operating cots and rental are high ie expensive. The only people they can reduce cost is on employees. Things are cheap? A 3 room resale flat goes for $400k ++. You can buy condo in posh KL area with that amount and even save some $$. The only foreignrs that flood Spore are the ones from poorer countries (sorry guys but it's true). Because of exchange rate and son on. Even the affluent are moving to China. This myth that foreigners are flooding Singapore. Since Covid number of foreigners is shrinking in Singapore. A. The biggest group of non manual workers/ employees in Singapore currently are from Mainland China. The number three is Japan. I don't think Japanese are here from a poor country. From the numbers released you can say the Japanese should be around 15 - 20%. The British won't be from "poor country" also, same as the rest of all other North Americans or Europeans. What you always forget is that Singapore lacks certain IT related employees and those with technical skills. Excerpt from a June 2021 ST article: "As every sector seeks to be digitally enabled, their need for tech talent has grown significantly," he said, emphasising that Singapore currently does not have enough locals to fill the jobs available. In the infocomm sector alone, 6,000 jobs remain unfilled. And this is not the only industry where there is lack of local workforce to fill the jobs. Do you want to change the bed sheets at a hotel in Singapore on your own? B. Data from MOM: Singaporeans in the workforce are at 2 million (exclusive of PRs) , MOM Data June 2021: 2,397,800 (inclusive of PRs) Foreign workforce numbers Pass type Dec 2016 Dec 2017 Dec 2018 Dec 2019 Dec 2020 Jun 2021 Employment Pass (EP) 192,300 187,700 185,800 193,700 177,100 166,900 S Pass 179,700 184,400 195,500 >200,000 174,000 164,200 Work Permit (Total) 992,700 965,200 972,600 999,000 848,200 834,300 Work Permit (MDW) 239,700 246,800 253,800 261,800 247,400 245,600 Work Permit (CMP sectors) 407,500 360,700 355,700 370,100 311,000 304,200 Other work passes2 28,300 30,700 32,100 34,700 32,200 31,700 Total foreign workforce (excluding MDWs and Work Permits in CMP sectors) 745,700 760,600 776,500 795,500 673,100 647,400 FOOTNOTE 2. “Other work passes” includes Letter of Consent (LOC), pre-approved LOC, Training Work Permit (TWP) and Training Employment Pass (TEP). C. Straits Times article from Jul 8, 2021: The top nationalities that comprise around two-thirds of Singapore's EP holders have been consistent since 2005 - namely, those from China, India, Japan, Malaysia, the Philippines and Britain. The proportion of Employment Pass (EP) holders from India is at to 25 per cent in 2020. There is a decline of 100,000 in the foreign workforce from 2020 to June 2021 (Numbers for total year 2021 will only released next year). The local workforce is shrinking due to a decline in local population. If you want job growth and GDP growth for Singapore you just have to accept that Singapore requires such employees from certain countries. If you want tech companies to set up in Singapore you need the influx of such specialised employees to fill the jobs. Otherwise you are saying that you don't want any growth for Singapore and accept when foreign companies shift to other countries. Also note that many jobs in Singapore are in danger of more developing and technically upgrading countries such as Eastern Europe. Manufacturing has been shifting to Vietnam. And you have to consider that Singaporeans don't take up jobs in certain sectors (retail, hospitality, nurse, front desk etc). The set up of foreign investments into Singapore bring jobs and retain jobs for locals. You have to know what you want. Edited December 15, 2021 by singalion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Relag lah Posted December 15, 2021 Report Share Posted December 15, 2021 On 12/15/2021 at 1:52 PM, singalion said: This myth that foreigners are flooding Singapore. Since Covid number of foreigners is shrinking in Singapore. The biggest group of non manual workers/ employees in Singapore currently are from Mainland China. The number three is Japan. I don't think Japanese are here from a poor country. From the numbers released you can say the Japanese should be around 15 - 20%. The British won't be from "poor country" also, same as the rest of all other North Americans or Europeans. Think we both know the Japs, English Americans and other white skin are here to start companies and hire people. You very seldom see them as employees. There might be a few in Japanes storese, but they are minority. Yes I know we need people to do the jobs Sporeans don't want to do. Sometimes I am sad because Sporeans have become so snobbish and shun menial jobs. Other countries, the locals do the menial jobs. Yes there may be instances of foreigners doing menial work but I don't think it's as serious as Spore. I think the main driver for foreigners is 1) Money. Most foreign employyess are cheaper. If I am an employer, I will also do the same. 2) Also Singaporeans all want to aim high in terms of position and pay. So you have many leaders and few followers. 3) 20 years ago, my female classmates sneered at jobs like store cashiers, private school teachers, etc. So you get the idea how bad the situation is even then. People should not be mocked because they do menial work isn't it? But the school principal, VP and HODs, lots of female teachers will laugh at you for doing maintenance, getting school attendants to do stuff. So childish. Even more childish than the children they teach. Think the whole snob thing starts from schools. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest guest Posted December 15, 2021 Report Share Posted December 15, 2021 On 12/15/2021 at 2:12 PM, Guest Relag lah said: Think we both know the Japs, English Americans and other white skin are here to start companies and hire people. You very seldom see them as employees. There might be a few in Japanes storese, but they are minority. Yes I know we need people to do the jobs Sporeans don't want to do. Sometimes I am sad because Sporeans have become so snobbish and shun menial jobs. Other countries, the locals do the menial jobs. Yes there may be instances of foreigners doing menial work but I don't think it's as serious as Spore. I think the main driver for foreigners is 1) Money. Most foreign employyess are cheaper. If I am an employer, I will also do the same. 2) Also Singaporeans all want to aim high in terms of position and pay. So you have many leaders and few followers. 3) 20 years ago, my female classmates sneered at jobs like store cashiers, private school teachers, etc. So you get the idea how bad the situation is even then. People should not be mocked because they do menial work isn't it? But the school principal, VP and HODs, lots of female teachers will laugh at you for doing maintenance, getting school attendants to do stuff. So childish. Even more childish than the children they teach. Think the whole snob thing starts from schools. Your perspective, (unfortunately), is from the low ses' perspective. As the economy moves up the value chain, so would the requirements for the workforce. If one cannot follow-up, then there will be a mismatch and hence, structural unemployment. Fact is, when you look at the degree of literacy (or command of language) of sections of our workforce, I do not see how they can really compete effectively. And I have yet to bring in more job requirements such as specialist skills, digitalisation abilities, etc. It is like asking a generation of Toto buyers to suddenly switch to crypto trading. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Relag lah Posted December 15, 2021 Report Share Posted December 15, 2021 On 12/15/2021 at 8:45 PM, Guest guest said: Your perspective, (unfortunately), is from the low ses' perspective. As the economy moves up the value chain, so would the requirements for the workforce. If one cannot follow-up, then there will be a mismatch and hence, structural unemployment. Fact is, when you look at the degree of literacy (or command of language) of sections of our workforce, I do not see how they can really compete effectively. And I have yet to bring in more job requirements such as specialist skills, digitalisation abilities, etc. It is like asking a generation of Toto buyers to suddenly switch to crypto trading. You are speaking from the employers' perspective? They'll say anything to justify their actions. Mostly disingenuous arguments. They all say India, China better than Spore like it's the truth. Previously no one would hire people from there because their degrees were not recognised. And you are implying that Sporeans who studied at local u, Aussie u, England U and other commonwealth Unis all cannot make it. Let's go into one area eg specialists skills. Doctors from India better than NUS? Computer Science in Spore cannot surpass India? So why are our local education system still in operation? Might as well all go study in India. But you are spot on about the sudden switch. Suddenly India is tops, NUS is only worthy of driving PHV. How fast the tables have turned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mahatir Posted August 7, 2022 Report Share Posted August 7, 2022 On 8/22/2021 at 1:57 PM, Guest Leo said: What if Singapore didn't get separated from Malaysia? What would be our economy and people and freedom? Most likely Singapore is more prosperous than what it is today. People are happy. Salary will be good. Prices are cheaper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lonelyglobe Posted August 8, 2022 Report Share Posted August 8, 2022 (edited) On 8/8/2022 at 3:39 AM, Guest Mahatir said: Most likely Singapore is more prosperous than what it is today. People are happy. Salary will be good. Prices are cheaper It will depends on who is the leader since 1965. We could be one of the G20 countries or remain like what our neighbour is today. Edited August 8, 2022 by lonelyglobe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radiusulnar Posted August 9, 2022 Report Share Posted August 9, 2022 we would be speaking bahasa and be similar to penang. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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