Guest Wtf Posted May 7, 2022 Share Posted May 7, 2022 I have been having knee pain in both knees for the past two years. I have consulted Chinese doctors, been treated with acupuncture, used knee braces, rubbed medicated oil, but it did not get any better. During the last two weeks, the pain is so bad that normal walking is also painful. After seating down for 15 minutes or more, the knees become weak when I initially stand. People I know tell me to avoid operations. True? Anyone has experience this and recovered from it? Please share. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted May 7, 2022 Share Posted May 7, 2022 Go for massage Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coolbriz Posted May 8, 2022 Share Posted May 8, 2022 While medical help is still advisable, meanwhile have you considered or tried supplements such as Caltrate UC2? I have seen it effective for some of my senior relatives including my mom who have got knee pain issue. Quote Be cool, like a breeze... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FIRE2020 Posted May 8, 2022 Share Posted May 8, 2022 On 5/8/2022 at 12:48 AM, Guest Wtf said: I have been having knee pain in both knees for the past two years. I have consulted Chinese doctors, been treated with acupuncture, used knee braces, rubbed medicated oil, but it did not get any better. During the last two weeks, the pain is so bad that normal walking is also painful. After seating down for 15 minutes or more, the knees become weak when I initially stand. People I know tell me to avoid operations. True? Anyone has experience this and recovered from it? Please share. Depending on age as usually knee replacement will only last 15 to 20 years. If you are in 60+, then you might want to explore it. Alternative strength your thigh muscles to minimize pressure on your knee. Also lose weight if you are on a heavier side. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Try and see Posted May 8, 2022 Share Posted May 8, 2022 On 5/8/2022 at 9:16 AM, FIRE2020 said: Depending on age as usually knee replacement will only last 15 to 20 years. If you are in 60+, then you might want to explore it. Alternative strength your thigh muscles to minimize pressure on your knee. Also lose weight if you are on a heavier side. I was also going to suggest the kneecap replacement surgery. You'll need to consult a specialist to assess your suitability. Once you have done the op, it will be a lot better, based on the feedback given by people I know who did it. And yes, if your BMI is on the high side, then you know what to do. Because for older adults, those who maintain a healthy BMI will have far less knee problems than those who are obese, because excess body weight will cause the knee joints to wear out faster, causing more pain as you age. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest It happens Posted May 8, 2022 Share Posted May 8, 2022 Knee pain can be caused by many factors. Too much calcium in your diet, nerves infections, old injury, gout (blood too acidic, bone deformed), sitting for too long (lack of blood circulation or exercise), Rheumatism, loss of cartilage (depending on your current age)..etc. Each treatment is different. Find the cause first, don't waste money just yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevechia Posted May 8, 2022 Share Posted May 8, 2022 Many years ago, I suffered severe pain in my right knee and was diagnosed by an orthopaedic specialist at NUH after taking X-Rays and MRI as having torn the meniscus in my knee. He said there is no cure and I have to undergo day surgery to trim the torn meniscus and even then there is no guarantee that the pain will completely go away. I asked if there were any supplements that I could take instead of undergoing the surgery and he said no. I didn't believe him as many other doctors have been prescribing supplements like glucosamine, MSM and chondroitin for joints and cartilage problems. I didn't do the surgery and continued taking my supplements at home and eventually my knee completely recovered on its own. I would recommend that you try this supplement Osteo Biflex or similar which is available in our pharmacies for your knee problem. One of my ex-colleague had to undergo a knee cap replacement operation on one of her knees and after that her other knee started to act up and she was worried that she would need to do another knee cap replacement surgery. I recommended that she try this supplement first to see if it would help and it did. To this day, she still thanks me whenever we meet up for recommending it to her. Another thing you can try is deep tissue or myofascial massage on your glutes, thighs and calves to release any tension there. Tension in those areas of the body can exert tremendous stress on the joints in the legs and cause tears in the knee meniscus from my personal experience. After my right knee recovered, I started feeling pain in my left knee. I was undergoing myofascial massage therapy at the time and told my therapist of the problem. He massaged my glutes, thighs and calves and like a miracle, the discomfort in my left knee was gone within a day or two. Nowadays I make it a point to get my legs and glutes massaged thoroughly when I go for any deep tissue massage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve5380 Posted May 8, 2022 Share Posted May 8, 2022 (edited) I am not an orthopedic specialist in knees but I have a personal experience. About 30 years ago I was into running. I increased to 9 miles (about 15 km) several times a week. As a result, my right knee joint got injured. Not so much with pain but the loss of smooth movement with a big crack at some position. In one of my books of weight lifting I read that heavy squats are beneficial for the knees. I stopped all running and gave more attention to weight lifting, with squats one of the principal workouts. I did it slow, and concentrated on good form. I started with low weight and slowly increased it consistently. After a time, my knee recovered. Today, I have strong legs and perfect knee joints. In addition, my hip joints are also like new, all at close to 80 y.o. In a slightly different problem, when I reached 70 I started to have a little arthritis pain in my legs, so that I had to use my hands to stand up from my comfort chair and I would avoid going down on my knees. After several years of martial arts, this arthritis has completely disappeared. It might be that stretching had also a positive effect here. Now I even enjoy going down on a knee to pick up things from the lower shelf in a grocery store. And I could apply for a job of Catholic priest and do unlimited perfect genuflections. Here is one of many articles that debunk the myth that squats are bad for knees. They confirm my experience that, on the contrary, they can help them. If interested, find many more by googling "are squats good for the knees" https://www.verywellhealth.com/are-squats-bad-for-knees-5094721#:~:text=Squats have been found to,and create leaner muscle mass. . Edited May 8, 2022 by Steve5380 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest A Suggestion Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 On 5/9/2022 at 5:18 AM, Steve5380 said: I could apply for a job of Catholic priest and do unlimited perfect genuflections. You should and make your life more useful there. Can't think of a best job to spend the remaining life as a monk - peaceful, spiritual and closer to God. No quarrel, no rat race, and very secured. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve5380 Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 On 5/8/2022 at 8:13 PM, Guest A Suggestion said: You should and make your life more useful there. Can't think of a best job to spend the remaining life as a monk - peaceful, spiritual and closer to God. No quarrel, no rat race, and very secured. To have good knees is not the main requisite for being a priest. More important is to have faith. So an agnostic like me is not the best suited. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singalion Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 On 5/8/2022 at 12:48 AM, Guest Wtf said: I have been having knee pain in both knees for the past two years. I have consulted Chinese doctors, been treated with acupuncture, used knee braces, rubbed medicated oil, but it did not get any better. During the last two weeks, the pain is so bad that normal walking is also painful. After seating down for 15 minutes or more, the knees become weak when I initially stand. People I know tell me to avoid operations. True? Anyone has experience this and recovered from it? Please share. We all can write long stories here about knee pain. but it won't treat you. Go to a doctor and get it analysed. Knee pain can have so many causes. It won't disappear. Only a doctor can tell you whether you need an operation or not. In many cases they won't even operate as it might be a result of "tear and wear". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 Don't believe doctor too much.Bet knee pain doctor give u Panadol for sure charge u extra $20 for consultation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Wtf Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 On 8/8/2021 at 2:42 PM, Guest Wtf said: Any recommendation where to get anonymous testing? I think I have it. On 8/22/2021 at 1:55 PM, Guest Wtf said: I'm having that too. Can share your medication? On 8/14/2021 at 11:11 PM, Guest Wtf said: Can you recommend a good ointment for itchy groin? Mine has been itchy for a week. On 8/22/2021 at 1:45 PM, Guest Wtf said: 2 days i suddenly got so many acne. Is this praventac pill a good remedy? On 1/18/2022 at 1:43 PM, Guest Wtf said: How much? I think I need one pimples, kmees, syphilis of the eye, gastroectomy, etc. etc, All you guys taking time and trouble to give actual advice, please note that this guest wtf is constantly posting about supposed things they have going wrong. It seems the only problem they have is psychological because if they had as many health issues as they report here, I am not sure how they are still able to do anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve5380 Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 On 5/8/2022 at 11:09 PM, singalion said: Go to a doctor and get it analysed. Knee pain can have so many causes. It won't disappear. Only a doctor can tell you whether you need an operation or not. In many cases they won't even operate as it might be a result of "tear and wear". Why are you delivering false information without investigating first? Knee pain CAN disappear. To consult a doctor may be wise, but doctors are not magicians. Unless it is a severe case, the decision on treatment and often its action should be in our hands. And remember that the business of an orthopedic surgeon is to operate, and they also are not magicians. https://www.healthline.com/health/pain-relief/knee-pain-home-remedies On 5/9/2022 at 1:05 AM, Guest Wtf said: pimples, kmees, syphilis of the eye, gastroectomy, etc. etc, All you guys taking time and trouble to give actual advice, please note that this guest wtf is constantly posting about supposed things they have going wrong. It seems the only problem they have is psychological because if they had as many health issues as they report here, I am not sure how they are still able to do anything. Threads about health problems, emotional problems, existential problems, can be useful to those who have similar problems. And they are so easy for you to avoid if you are not interested. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Words of Wisdom Posted May 10, 2022 Share Posted May 10, 2022 On 5/10/2022 at 5:03 AM, Steve5380 said: Threads about health problems, emotional problems, existential problems, can be useful to those who have similar problems. And they are so easy for you to avoid if you are not interested. Avoidance is the best medicine for all sort of ailments, especially imaginery one from this thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thatsamore Posted May 10, 2022 Share Posted May 10, 2022 (edited) I know this might sound unsubstantiated but besides taking glucosamine etc, this is something that I strongly believe through personal experience. Avoid eating bean products or keep it to the minimum - includes red/green beans and soya beans. This includes confectionary made of beans like Tau Sa Pia and even soya bean milk. Eating these item will trigger knee pain which will last two weeks or so before pain subsides. I read online somewhere that it has something to do with the type of proteins in the beans and some foods that can causes it. We Asians always say cannot eat this and that, something that Westerners do not follow. This however I believe is true. No harm trying. Edited May 10, 2022 by thatsamore Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fab Posted May 10, 2022 Share Posted May 10, 2022 Avoid prolonged standing. Quote 鍾意就好，理佢男定女 never argue with the guests. let them bark all they want. 结缘不结怨 解怨不解缘 After I have said what I wanna say, I don't care what you say. 看穿不说穿 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singalion Posted May 10, 2022 Share Posted May 10, 2022 On 5/10/2022 at 5:03 AM, Steve5380 said: Why are you delivering false information without investigating first? Knee pain CAN disappear. To consult a doctor may be wise, but doctors are not magicians. Unless it is a severe case, the decision on treatment and often its action should be in our hands. And remember that the business of an orthopedic surgeon is to operate, and they also are not magicians. https://www.healthline.com/health/pain-relief/knee-pain-home-remedies Threads about health problems, emotional problems, existential problems, can be useful to those who have similar problems. And they are so easy for you to avoid if you are not interested. What I meant was the pain will not disappear without professional assistance. Severe knee pain can have different origins, therefore it is better to get some checks done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve5380 Posted May 10, 2022 Share Posted May 10, 2022 (edited) On 5/10/2022 at 4:30 AM, singalion said: What I meant was the pain will not disappear without professional assistance. Severe knee pain can have different origins, therefore it is better to get some checks done. This is equally incorrect. A "professional" is not a magician who can touch the knee with his wand and the pain goes away. My knee pain went away without any assistance by a "professional"... oh... except by me, a professional engineer. One more detail: SEVERE knee pain is not the same as knee pain. You spoke and we are speaking of generic knee pain. . Edited May 10, 2022 by Steve5380 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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