All about Covid-19 Discussion in Singapore (compiled)

[Guest Guest]

https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/health/pastor-of-church-identified-as-potential-new-cluster-cautions-congregants-against

 

I don't get it. Why would a pair of Chinese nationals (Case 8 and 9) from Wuhan arrive on 19 Jan,  and then go visit a church for no reasons, especially when they are not even known to the church? Since when did THE LIFE CHURCH AND MISSIONS become a tourist attraction? And the population of Christians in China only account to about 5% or so of the population. This sounds so weird to me...

[lonelyglobe]

5% of China population is way too many times of the Christian in SG,  but it should be personal visit because china tour group normally only visit Indian temple as part of their itinerary....umm,  would that be how the blangadesh worker got infected. 

Edited February 9, 2020 by lonelyglobe

[Guest jobs]

1 hour ago, lonelyglobe said:

5% of China population is way too many times of the Christian in SG,  but it should be personal visit because china tour group normally only visit Indian temple as part of their itinerary....umm,  would that be how the blangadesh worker got infected. 

Bangladeshis are 97% Muslim and wouldn’t visit any Indian (Tamil) temple. 
 

There are plenty of PRC tourists and others at Mustafa because it has near to everything.... 

[Guest River]

https://www.nst.com.my/world/world/2020/02/563609/latest-coronavirus-study-implicates-faecal-transmission

 

WASHINGTON: Diarrhoea may be a secondary path of transmission for the novel coronavirus (2019-nCoV), scientists said on Friday following the publication of the latest study reporting patients with abdominal symptoms and loose stool.

 

 

The primary path is believed to be virus-laden droplets from an infected person’s cough, though researchers in early cases have said they focused heavily on patients with respiratory symptoms and may have overlooked those linked to the digestive tract.

 

A total of 14 out of 138 patients (10 per cent) in a Wuhan hospital who were studied in the new paper by Chinese authors in the Journal of the American Medical Association (JAMA) initially presented with diarrhoea and nausea one or two days prior to development of fever and laboured breathing.

 

The first US patient diagnosed with 2019-nCoV also experienced loose bowel movements for two days and the virus was subsequently detected in his stool, and there have been other such cases in China documented in the Lancet, albeit infrequently.

 

“Importantly, 2019-nCoV has been reported elsewhere in the faeces of patients with atypical abdominal symptoms, similar to SARS which was also shed in urine, suggesting a faecal transmission route which is highly transmissible,” William Keevil, a professor of environmental healthcare at the University of Southampton said in a comment to the UK’s Science Media Centre.

 

The possibility is not totally surprising to scientists, given that the new virus belongs to the same family as SARS.

 

Faecal transmission of SARS was implicated in sickening hundreds in Hong Kong’s Amoy Gardens housing estate in 2003. A rising plume of warm air originating in bathrooms contaminated several apartments and was transported by wind to adjacent buildings in the complex.

 

Based on the literature, “The 2019-nCoV virus found in stool may be transmitted through faecal spread,” added Jiayu Liao, a bioengineer at the University of California, Riverside.

 

But, he added, “We still do not know how long this virus can survive outside the body – HIV can only survive roughly 30 minutes outside the body – and what temperature range the 2019-nCoV is sensitive to.”

 

Faecal spread could present new challenges to the virus’s containment, but is more likely to be a problem inside hospitals, which can become “amplifiers” of epidemics, said David Fisman, an epidemiologist at the University of Toronto.

 

Benjamin Neuman, a virology expert at Texas A&M University-Texarkana, cautioned that while faecal transmission was “certainly worth considering,” “droplets and touching contaminated surfaces then rubbing eyes, nose or mouth” were likely the main way the virus was transmitted based on current data. -  AFP

 

 

 

 

[Guest River]

https://m.theepochtimes.com/chinese-officials-warns-of-aerosol-infection-as-coronavirus-spreads_3231971.html

 

Chinese Officials Confirm Coronavirus Is Airborne Disease

Chinese health officials confirmed that the deadly novel coronavirus can be spread through the air, according to a Shanghai press conference on Feb. 8.

The virus, which causes a respiratory illness, has infected at least tens of thousands and stirred concern worldwide.

The officials said the virus can be spread through aerosol transmission, that is, when one inhales very tiny droplets in the air containing the virus. Severe acute respiratory syndrome (SARS), measles, and H5N1 avian influenza are also capable of spreading through aerosols, which can stay in the air for an extended period.

 

The UK government also recently classified the new virus as an “airborne high consequence infectious disease,” meaning that it can be spread through respiratory droplets, according to a government webpage about the virus.

The other two major transmission routes for the virus include direct contact—breathing in larger droplets at close range of an infected person who sneezes or coughs—and contact transmission, meaning a person can be infected by touching objects contaminated with droplets carrying the virus, and then touching the membranes of his mouth, nose, or eyes before washing his hands, Chinese officials said.

 

Depending on the environment, current scientific data suggests the coronavirus can survive on surfaces for several hours or up to five days, Jiang Rongmeng, an expert from China’s top health oversight agency, the National Health Commission (NHC), said in a recent press conference

 

The findings came after Guangdong authorities discovered the nucleic acid of the virus on the doorknob of a patient’s home.

 

A number of Chinese cities, including the outbreak epicenter of Wuhan in Hubei Province; Xi’an in Shaanxi; Nanyang, Xuchang, and Kaifeng in Henan; Xingtai in Hebei; and Jiujiang in Guangdong, have deployed mist cannon trucks and street cleaning trucks to spray disinfectants on the streets in an effort to eliminate the virus from public spaces.

 

Shenzhen and Kunming in southern China were among the latest two locales to use drones for the disinfectant operation.

 

Zeng Qun, vice director for the Shanghai Civil Affairs Bureau, asked the public to cancel all social gatherings, open windows to ensure ventilation indoors, and regularly disinfect their homes. Zeng identified door handles, chairs, and toilet seat cushions as key areas that are susceptible to contamination and suggested using 75 percent ethanol solution or chlorine solution for sanitizing measures.

 

 

In a recent poll on the popular messaging platform WeChat, which drew 75,000 participants, around 62 percent indicated that they haven’t taken an elevator for more than a week, worrying that they could contract the virus by contacting the doorknob. For those who rode elevators, many chose to bring a pen, a toothpick, or a napkin, or wore gloves to avoid any direct contact.

Officials have also cautioned the family members of those infected to wear masks and keep a distance of at least one meter (3.2 ft.), as well as washing their hands immediately after touching anything exposed to the patient.

 

In a same-day news conference, China’s NHC announced that the virus will have a temporary name: novel coronavirus pneumonia, or NCP.

 

 

It remains uncertain whether the virus can spread through fecal contamination, a concern that arose after the feces of the first U.S. coronavirus patient tested positive to the virus.

Feng Luzhao, an infectious disease researcher with the Chinese Center for Disease Control and Prevention, said at the conference that it has also identified similar cases in several regions, which raised the question of whether the pathogens can spread through tainted food and water.

According to the NHC, the signs of infection include fever, fatigue, dry cough, and breathing difficulties, which can lead to pneumonia, kidney failure, and death.

 

However, some patients have reported atypical symptoms such as diarrhea, headache, palpitations, chest pain, eye inflammation, and muscle soreness.

 

 

[Guest Babi]

1 hour ago, Since u r here said:

 

What is the intention of showing this Malaysian news reporr on Singapore?

To stir up nationalist feelings?

It has offered nothing new,that hasnt been reported locally of shared here

 

Please bring your negativity elsewhere

At a time like this we Singaporeans shd stand united and not make more enemies with our neighbouring countries

 

 

[Guest Jia lat]

30K of china workers are coming back to SG!!!

 

Even they are mandatory to be quarantine for 14days.... what if they took panadol to suppress those symptoms before flights and during their quarantine period... 

 

Foreseeable that some of them may sneak out during their quarantine period.

[Guest Italian embrace]

Mayor of Florence Dario Nardella has suggested residents hug Chinese people to encourage them in the fight against the novel coronavirus. Meanwhile, a member of Associazione Unione Giovani Italo Cinesi, a Chinese society in Italy aimed at promoting friendship between people in the two countries, called for respect for novel coronavirus patients during a street demonstration. "I'm not a virus. I'm a human. Eradicate the prejudice."

 

What about us?

 

 

[Guest Guest]

3 hours ago, Since u r here said:

some r nothing but just flamers/haters and boliao rumour mongers who choose to kill innocent

 

"Flamers/haters and boliao rumour mongers who choose to kill innocent" like this idiotic HYPOCRITE below huh?

Look at yourself in the mirror and see who is the pot calling the kettle black, and who started the baseless accusations first, OK??

Want to call other people "flamers/haters and boliao rumour mongers who choose to kill innocent" some more... 

 

20 hours ago, Since u r here said:

are u the one snatching at supermkts and grocery store esp on toilet paper???
if u r not the one, then who?

 

Talk about somebody not shameless enough some more: youcan go and self-like your own post again...?

Really don't know what is going through your mind sometimes. Are you brain damaged because of drug abuse or what?? 

 

 

[lonelyglobe]

2 hours ago, Guest Jia lat said:

30K of china workers are coming back to SG!!!

 

Even they are mandatory to be quarantine for 14days.... what if they took panadol to suppress those symptoms before flights and during their quarantine period... 

 

Foreseeable that some of them may sneak out during their quarantine period.

If they get caught, they can be jailed and if they start work before the quarantine period, their work permit will be cancelled and they can balek kampong which already happened to a few of them....ya,  is really jia lat ha..... 

[Guest Guest]

OMG ... Japan had another 66 people found infected on the cruise ship, making their total infected count to be 156. https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/east-asia/sixty-more-people-confirmed-with-coronavirus-on-cruise-ship-in-japan

 

At least 66 more people confirmed with coronavirus on cruise ship in Japan

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UPDATED

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TOKYO (BLOOMBERG, AFP) -

 

The number of confirmed coronavirus cases on a quarantined cruise ship off Japan almost doubled, bringing to 136 the number of infections in the biggest outbreak outside of China.

 

The operator of the cruise ship quarantined off Japan confirmed 66 more cases of the virus.

 

Japanese health officials had confirmed that among the new infections there were 45 Japanese nationals, 11 Americans, four Australians, three from the Philippines and one each from Britain, Canada and Ukraine, Princess Cruises said.

 

The increasing number of patients on Carnvial Corp's Diamond Princess has raised worries about a possible spread among the more than 3,600 people still aboard.

 

Risks have been mounting that the virus could spread in the confined spaces of the ship, where many on board have increased vulnerability due to their advanced ages.

 

The Diamond Princess has been in quarantine since arriving off the Japanese coast early last week after the new virus was detected in a former passenger who got off the ship last month in Hong Kong.

 

When the ship arrived off Japan, the authorities initially tested nearly 300 people on board for the virus, gradually evacuating dozens who tested positive to local medical facilities.

 

In recent days, testing has expanded to those who had close contact with other infected passengers or crew, and several more cases were reported over the weekend.

 

Those who remain on the ship have been asked to stay inside their cabins and allowed out only briefly onto open decks. 

 

They have been asked to wear masks and keep a distance from each other when outside, and given thermometers to regularly monitor their temperatures. 

 

The ship is expected to stay in quarantine until Feb 19 – 14 days after the isolation period began.

 

The quarantine has made life on board the ship difficult, particularly for those in windowless interior cabins and a significant number of passengers who require medication for various chronic conditions.

 

The health ministry said on Monday (Feb 10) that around 600 people on board were in urgent need of medications and around half received supplies over the weekend.

[Guest Guest]

TAIPEI (Taiwan News) — The incubation period for the Wuhan coronavirus (2019-nCoV) can last up to 24 days, according to a study by renowned Chinese pulmonologist Zhong Nanshan (鍾南山).

 

The study finds that the average incubation period of the virus is 3 days but that it can take as little as one day and as long as 24 days for a patient to develop symptoms.

 

https://www.taiwannews.com.tw/en/news/3874223

[Guest Guest]

2 more cases in S’pore, including 2-year-old girl & man on duty during Chingay

 

https://www.mothership.sg/2020/02/coronavirus-update-february-10/

[lonelyglobe]

41 minutes ago, Guest Guest said:

2 more cases in S’pore, including 2-year-old girl & man on duty during Chingay

 

https://www.mothership.sg/2020/02/coronavirus-update-february-10/

They have to pay the price for not canceling CNY celebration, Chingay parade, thaipusam, coming airshow etc.. keep organising big event with thousands of participants not wearing mask,  red status may come very soon,  well done and good luck. 

Edited February 10, 2020 by lonelyglobe

[Guest Guest]

Compilation of what MOH knows of the 45 cases. Previous 43 cases were already mentioned in other posts, so won't cut and paste the entire article here again. 

 

https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/singapore/wuhan-virus-singapore-confirmed-cases-coronavirus-12324270

 

[Guest Takius]

7 hours ago, Guest Italian embrace said:

Mayor of Florence Dario Nardella has suggested residents hug Chinese people to encourage them in the fight against the novel coronavirus. Meanwhile, a member of Associazione Unione Giovani Italo Cinesi, a Chinese society in Italy aimed at promoting friendship between people in the two countries, called for respect for novel coronavirus patients during a street demonstration. "I'm not a virus. I'm a human. Eradicate the prejudice."

 

What about us?

 

 

It's really kind of those Italians! Thanks for sharing this 

[Guest Guest]

26 minutes ago, Guest Takius said:

It's really kind of those Italians! Thanks for sharing this 

 

I have a different opinion. I think it's foolish since there are better and safer ways to show support. 

[Guest Guest]

Coronavirus: Hubei province reveals fatality rate for first time, Wuhan comes in second at 4.06%. 

 

It was topped by Tianmen, a nearby city, which has a death rate of 5.08 per cent, Caixin Global reported on Sunday (Feb 9).

 

With 871 deaths reported as of Sunday, the fatality rate of Hubei province on the whole is 2.88 per cent, the report said.

 

https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/east-asia/coronavirus-hubei-province-reveals-fatality-rate-for-first-time-wuhan-comes-in-second

[lonelyglobe]

18 minutes ago, Guest Guest said:

 

I have a different opinion. I think it's foolish since there are better and safer ways to show support. 

Precisely, at times like this,  we should avoid body contact like hugging, kissing, holding hand and refrain from having sex especially with strangers. 

[Guest Quarantine]

Asia

Sarawak enforces 14-day home quarantine rule for travellers from Singapore

 

Updated: 10 Feb 2020 07:20PM

 

KUCHING: With immediate effect, arrivals to Sarawak from Singapore will have to be quarantined for 14 days at home, State Disaster Management Committee chairman Amar Douglas Uggah Embas said on Monday (Feb 10).

The decision was made after Singapore raised its Disease Outbreak Response System Condition (DORSCON) level to Orange last Friday amid a global novel coronavirus outbreak. The country has 43 cases of the virus as of Sunday, including 22 locally transmitted cases.

 

 

 

This is even scarier. If all countries close down and disallow travellers from Singapore, then Red Dot is like a leprosy island...

 

Island quarantine Center Singapore...

 

😷

 

[Guest Guest]

29 minutes ago, Guest Quarantine said:

Asia

Sarawak enforces 14-day home quarantine rule for travellers from Singapore

Updated: 10 Feb 2020 07:20PM

 

KUCHING: With immediate effect, arrivals to Sarawak from Singapore will have to be quarantined for 14 days at home, State Disaster Management Committee chairman Amar Douglas Uggah Embas said on Monday (Feb 10).

The decision was made after Singapore raised its Disease Outbreak Response System Condition (DORSCON) level to Orange last Friday amid a global novel coronavirus outbreak. The country has 43 cases of the virus as of Sunday, including 22 locally transmitted cases.
 

This is even scarier. If all countries close down and disallow travellers from Singapore, then Red Dot is like a leprosy island...

 

Island quarantine Center Singapore...

 

😷

 

 

If the Taiwan’s report is true, it’s 24 days.

[Guest Praised for approach]

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-02-10/as-asia-panics-one-country-wins-praise-for-approach-to-virus?utm_source=url_link

[mith]

i share the same sentiment as S-hook 姐... not necessary and idiotic of people clearing supermarket shelves stocking up!  

[Guest Accolades]

3 hours ago, Guest Praised for approach said:

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-02-10/as-asia-panics-one-country-wins-praise-for-approach-to-virus?utm_source=url_link

Singapore is famous for “buying” accolades in foreign media. Have been using this tool too long. Bloomberg, lol.

 

In Malaysia or Thailand nobody has been running to the shops, people stayed calm there...

 

On the other hand Singapore is having a WHO investigation on the Hyatt corporate conference event just before CNY for keeping it under the carpet until the Brit guy was diagnosed in UK...who infected others in Europe. Few Mainland Chinese attended this event...and...

 

It’s clear, Singapore tried to avoid declaring a “community” spreading...

 

By the way: with the Dorncon Orange Singapore is pushing the duties to the private sector in coming up with measures to fight against the virus. 
 

Typical “privatisation “ or “outsourcing” of duties... Push the burden to the private sector. 
 

Why is nobody measuring temperatures at MRT station entries or other public locations? 

[Guest Guest]

2 hours ago, Since u r here said:

Same here

 

anyway she s the culprit:
But her house got 6 adults and 2 dogs- needed alot to clear shit
https://www.zaobao.com.sg/zentertainment/celebs/story20200210-1027789?utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook#Echobox=1581322040

 

Oooooohhh? She's the culprit now?? Is she a Singaporean?? Not a Singaporean, right? Then you go and blame Singaporeans to say that we started for fxxk?? It's not as if we even know who she is to go start hoarding food on HER advice in the first place! 

 

[lonelyglobe]

In short the current wuhan expert team have failed,  not only are they not able to contain the spreading but they had open up many doors and opportunitIes for a possible wide spread of the virus + lost of trust and confidence among the people resulting in hoarding of goods which was reported all over the world and we became  a laughing stock for the whole world. It doesn't matter these hoarders are local or not as it will just be just classified as spore.

 

And some idiots still can tell u don't hoard,  must show the world we are united so more countries have confidence and can create more jobs for the future.  Hello,  who care about the future if u cant even solve the problem now? Now,  where is my sars master? 

 

Edited February 11, 2020 by lonelyglobe

[Guest accolades]

for completeness: 

'Super spreader' brought coronavirus from Singapore to Sussex via France

 

Three weeks ago, when knowledge of the coronavirus was still in its infancy, a middle-aged man from Hove, East Sussex, travelled to Singapore for a sales conference.

The event, organised by his firm, Servomex, was a chance to sharpen up sales skills and network with colleagues from other countries in the plush surrounds of the five-star Grand Hyatt hotel, where rooms can cost £1,000 a night.

 

The trip exposed the Sussex businessman to the Wuhan coronavirus and in the days after the conference it is believed he passed the bug to at least 11 Britons in three countries, prompting concerns about the danger posed by so-called super spreaders.

 

The unnamed man, the first Briton to have tested positive for coronavirus, attended the sales conference from 20 to 22 January. He was among 94 – out of a total of 109 – delegates who travelled from abroad. The foreign delegates included one from Wuhan, the Chinese city at the centre of the outbreak.

 

After the conference, the Briton travelled to the French ski resort of Les Contamines-Montjoie near Mont Blanc, where he stayed with his family between 24 and 28 January. He flew back to the UK on a busy easyJet flight from Geneva to Gatwick. Still oblivious to the fact he had the virus, which has a two-week incubation period, he returned home and on the evening of 1 February he visited a local pub, The Grenadier in Hove.

It was only after being informed by the conference organisers that another delegate had contracted the virus that he alerted the public health authorities and subsequently tested positive.

 

As protocol dictates, a scramble began to identify all those with whom he had been in contact, to ascertain whether they too had been infected. Five workers at The Grenadier were instructed to self-isolate. The man’s travels in the intervening period multiplied the number of people he had potentially infected, and cases linked to him began to emerge.

 

On Saturday the French health minister, Agnes Buzyn, said five British citizens including a nine-year-old child had tested positive for the coronavirus. They had stayed in a chalet in Les Contamines-Montjoie, which had been visited by the businessman from Hove. Buzyn said another six UK nationals were being kept under observation in French hospitals, and two schools the nine-year-old visited were being shut as a precaution.

 

On Sunday more cases linked to the businessman emerged. Public Health England (PHE) said another patient in the UK had tested positive after the virus was passed on in France from another already confirmed UK case. It was announced that a British man living in Mallorca, who had been in Les Contamines-Montjoie with his family until 29 January, had also tested positive.

 

On Monday it was confirmed that another four people in the UK – three men and a woman in Brighton – had tested positive for coronavirus. The chief medical officer, Prof Chris Whitty, said all were “known contacts of a previously confirmed UK case, and the virus was passed on in France”.

 

Dr Andrew Freedman, a reader in infectious diseases at Cardiff University, said: “This is not particularly surprising but it does appear that the index case has passed on the infection to an unusually large number of contacts. As such, he could be termed a super spreader.”

 

The Hove businessman is now in an isolation unit at St Thomas’ hospital in London, having been transferred from Brighton on Thursday. The effort to identify and – where necessary – isolate and test people who may have been in contact with him continues. Those potentially at risk include passengers who sat near him on flight EZS8481 from Geneva to Gatwick on 28 January.

 

 

[AFter8]

1 hour ago, Guest accolades said:

for completeness: 

'Super spreader' brought coronavirus from Singapore to Sussex via France

 

Three weeks ago, when knowledge of the coronavirus was still in its infancy, a middle-aged man from Hove, East Sussex, travelled to Singapore for a sales conference.

The event, organised by his firm, Servomex, was a chance to sharpen up sales skills and network with colleagues from other countries in the plush surrounds of the five-star Grand Hyatt hotel, where rooms can cost £1,000 a night.

 

The trip exposed the Sussex businessman to the Wuhan coronavirus and in the days after the conference it is believed he passed the bug to at least 11 Britons in three countries, prompting concerns about the danger posed by so-called super spreaders.

 

The unnamed man, the first Briton to have tested positive for coronavirus, attended the sales conference from 20 to 22 January. He was among 94 – out of a total of 109 – delegates who travelled from abroad. The foreign delegates included one from Wuhan, the Chinese city at the centre of the outbreak.

 

After the conference, the Briton travelled to the French ski resort of Les Contamines-Montjoie near Mont Blanc, where he stayed with his family between 24 and 28 January. He flew back to the UK on a busy easyJet flight from Geneva to Gatwick. Still oblivious to the fact he had the virus, which has a two-week incubation period, he returned home and on the evening of 1 February he visited a local pub, The Grenadier in Hove.

It was only after being informed by the conference organisers that another delegate had contracted the virus that he alerted the public health authorities and subsequently tested positive.

 

As protocol dictates, a scramble began to identify all those with whom he had been in contact, to ascertain whether they too had been infected. Five workers at The Grenadier were instructed to self-isolate. The man’s travels in the intervening period multiplied the number of people he had potentially infected, and cases linked to him began to emerge.

 

On Saturday the French health minister, Agnes Buzyn, said five British citizens including a nine-year-old child had tested positive for the coronavirus. They had stayed in a chalet in Les Contamines-Montjoie, which had been visited by the businessman from Hove. Buzyn said another six UK nationals were being kept under observation in French hospitals, and two schools the nine-year-old visited were being shut as a precaution.

 

On Sunday more cases linked to the businessman emerged. Public Health England (PHE) said another patient in the UK had tested positive after the virus was passed on in France from another already confirmed UK case. It was announced that a British man living in Mallorca, who had been in Les Contamines-Montjoie with his family until 29 January, had also tested positive.

 

On Monday it was confirmed that another four people in the UK – three men and a woman in Brighton – had tested positive for coronavirus. The chief medical officer, Prof Chris Whitty, said all were “known contacts of a previously confirmed UK case, and the virus was passed on in France”.

 

Dr Andrew Freedman, a reader in infectious diseases at Cardiff University, said: “This is not particularly surprising but it does appear that the index case has passed on the infection to an unusually large number of contacts. As such, he could be termed a super spreader.”

 

The Hove businessman is now in an isolation unit at St Thomas’ hospital in London, having been transferred from Brighton on Thursday. The effort to identify and – where necessary – isolate and test people who may have been in contact with him continues. Those potentially at risk include passengers who sat near him on flight EZS8481 from Geneva to Gatwick on 28 January.

 

 

It is certainly not lovely for the Brit to be termed a super spreader by the press.  Oh well 😳

[AFter8]

1 hour ago, Since u r here said:

 

which is gd to tap on such IT

On the school's end, yes it is good IT application.  On the user end, it's maciam drug offender tagging wor!! 🙄

[AFter8]

3 hours ago, Since u r here said:

how i wish i dont have to travel to my Uni then........
now how i wish i dont have to clock in and clockout at workplace daily

Eh... at least now you still have fixed time to head to work and balik rumah lor.  Just imagine if you co declares all staff to work from home, then it'll be rubber band timing.  Confirmed no life! 😎

[xiaomimi]

Should club be closed? Think club it’s the most risky places to catch those things. 

[Guest Desires most risky]

9 hours ago, xiaomimi said:

Should club be closed? Think club it’s the most risky places to catch those things. 

It’s not clubs tat r d most risky.  It’s ppl’s desires tat make them go there tat is d most risky. Shouldn’t we jus control n manage our desires instead?

[Guest Guest]

https://www.msn.com/en-sg/news/world/coronavirus-live-updates-the-illness-now-has-a-name-covid-19/ar-BBZTtZr?ocid=spartanntp

 

Coronavirus Live Updates: The Illness Now Has a Name: COVID-19

1 hour ago

 

World health authorities now have a name for the coronavirus illness.

 

The World Health Organization on Tuesday proposed an official name for the illness caused by the new coronavirus: COVID-19. The acronym stands for coronavirus disease 2019, as the illness was first detected toward the end of last year.

 

The director general of the World Health Organization, Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus, noted that the new name makes no reference to any of the people, places or animals associated with the coronavirus. The goal was to avoid stigma.

 

Under international guidelines, the W.H.O. “had to find a name that did not refer to a geographical location, an animal, an individual or group of people, and which is also pronounceable and related to the disease,” he said on Twitter.

 

The death toll from the coronavirus epidemic is continuing to climb, Chinese officials said on Tuesday. Dr. Tedros said that 1,017 people had died from the coronavirus. The number of confirmed infections in China also grew, to at least 42,700 from about 40,000 a day earlier.

 

There are 393 COVID-19 cases abroad, in a total of 24 countries.

 

“With 99 percent of cases in China, this remains very much an emergency for that country, but one that holds a very grave threat for the rest of the world,” Dr. Tedros said.

[HendryTan]

 

https://www.zaobao.com.sg/znews/singapore/story20200212-1028165

 

专家驳斥我国或成第二个武汉：确诊人数较高因我国积极追踪病例

 

近日有文章指我国发病率是人口的近10万分之一，相当于疫情中等的中国城市。伊丽莎白诺维娜医院传染病顾问医生梁浩楠受访时否定这一说法，他指出，我国约一半病例是从境外输入，更重要的是，我国小心谨慎，主动找出潜在病例。

 

网传我国新型冠状病毒确诊病例是人口近10万分之一，恐成为第二个武汉。受访传染病学家驳斥谬论，强调不能单从数据解读疫情，我国主动追踪潜在病例，才导致初期确诊人数较高。

 

新冠病毒在多国肆虐，各地确诊病例备受关注。近日有文章指我国570万人口中有40多个病例，意味发病率是近10万分之一，相当于疫情中等的中国城市，甚至可能成为第二个武汉。

 

伊丽莎白诺维娜医院传染病顾问医生梁浩楠受访时否定这一说法。他指出，我国约一半病例是从境外输入，考虑到新加坡旅客流量高且深受中国旅客欢迎，这不令人惊讶。

医疗水平会影响严重程度

更重要的是，我国通过体温检测及追踪与病患有过密切接触的人士，小心谨慎地找出潜在病例，并提供每日100元的隔离补贴及免费治疗，让病患愿意主动现身。

 

梁浩楠说：“虽然我国初期会有更多确诊病例，但潜在回报是，每日病例将维持在低水平。不这么做的话，虽然初期病例较少，但之后会成倍增长。”

 

亚太临床微生物与感染病协会会长淡马亚教授也强调，不能直接比较我国与武汉。

 

 

武汉面对突如其来的疫情，措手不及，但我国做好准备，也拥有先进医疗设施和病毒检测试剂盒。

有网站也称，不应采纳湖北以外约0.2％的死亡率，因为疫情未在这些地方全面暴发。对此，传染病专家同意，新冠病毒从感染到死亡需时两三周，故湖北以外的死亡率会滞后。

 

但以湖北省内近3.0%的死亡率为准也不恰当，因为那反映最糟的情况。梁浩楠说：“那里所有人疲惫不堪，外加医疗服务短缺、设备不足。这样比较是不公平的。”

 

他指出，医疗水平会直接影响疫情的严重程度。例如，感染伊波拉病毒的人在美国亚特兰大的生存率，比南非高出三四成，在工业国家罹患麻疹的存活率，也比非工业国家高出三四成。

 

淡马亚说，我国可参考浙江省或广东省的死亡率，它们是第二波出现病例的地区，且发达水平较接近我国。浙江省和广东省截至昨天分别有1117起和1177起病例，前者没有死亡病例，后者只有一起。

 

刚过去的元宵节（7日），我国将抗疫警戒级别调高至橙色，但洛阳大伯公宫当晚仍举行“万民善信庆元宵”晚会，引发一些网民指责政府没有吸取武汉万人宴的教训。

 

但据悉，赴会人数与往年的万人相比，锐减过半。淡马亚说，政府建议取消或延后大型活动，而不是直接禁止，是将责任放在活动举办者身上，信任国人会做出明智决定。

 

梁浩楠也指出，我国每天有成千上万的集会，但至今只有三个感染群，显示在拥挤场所被感染的概率少过0.01％。“政府下禁令容易，但维持士气很难，因此要把握好平衡。”

 

新加坡政策研究所高级研究员孙婉婷博士说，随着全球病例增加，医学专家对病毒的了解加深，政府也得不断调整应对方式，这间接使得公众感受到很高的不确定性。　　

 

研究显示，能够唤起恐惧、厌恶或愤怒等强烈情绪的文章，往往传播效果强，因此在疫情暴发后，引起人们恐惧和焦虑的文章，能更轻易和迅速地传播。

 

拉惹勒南国际研究院卓越国家安全研究中心高级研究员洪正君则指出，人们在危机中会感到恐惧，渴望获得信息和寻求解释，因而轻信阴谋论，并出于想要保护社区的心理，分享令人恐惧的信息。

 

社交媒体加速了这个过程，因为它既是共享信息的强大工具，也会优先展示耸人听闻的文章，以增加用户参与度。

 

人们出于不同原因捏造假信息，一些人可能过于匆忙地下结论，另一些则是为了恶作剧。孙婉婷说，人们想要保护身边人，也可能助长假信息的传播，因为他们的心态是“小心总好过后悔”。

 

洪正君认为，要对抗这点，在政府官员之外，一些有影响力和受人尊敬的人士应提醒社区、家人和朋友保持冷静。公众在分享可能造成恐慌的信息或采取非理性行动前，也应停下来思考一下。

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29 minutes ago, HendryTan said:

 

https://www.zaobao.com.sg/znews/singapore/story20200212-1028165

 

专家驳斥我国或成第二个武汉：确诊人数较高因我国积极追踪病例

 

近日有文章指我国发病率是人口的近10万分之一，相当于疫情中等的中国城市。伊丽莎白诺维娜医院传染病顾问医生梁浩楠受访时否定这一说法，他指出，我国约一半病例是从境外输入，更重要的是，我国小心谨慎，主动找出潜在病例。

 

网传我国新型冠状病毒确诊病例是人口近10万分之一，恐成为第二个武汉。受访传染病学家驳斥谬论，强调不能单从数据解读疫情，我国主动追踪潜在病例，才导致初期确诊人数较高。

 

 

 

Translation of news article in "zaobao" 

 

Note: 我国 stands for our country = Singapore ; Names have been left without proper transfer into English

 

 

Experts refute that our country may become the second Wuhan: the number of confirmed cases is high because our country actively tracks cases

Recently, an article pointed out that the incidence rate in our country is nearly one in 100,000 of the population, which is equivalent to a Chinese city with a moderate epidemic. Liang Haonan, an infectious disease consultant at Elizabeth Novena Hospital, denied this statement in an interview. He noted that our country about half of the cases are imported from abroad, and more importantly, our country is careful and proactive in identifying potential cases.

Our country has confirmed that a new type of coronavirus has a confirmed population of nearly one in 100,000, and it may become the second Wuhan. The infectious disease experts interviewed refuted the fallacy and emphasized that the epidemic situation cannot be interpreted based on data alone. Our country's active follow-up of potential cases has led to a higher initial diagnosis.

New crown virus is raging in many countries, and the confirmed cases in various places have attracted much attention. A recent article pointed out that there are more than 40 cases in  our country's 5.7 million people, which means that the incidence rate is nearly one in 100,000, which is equivalent to a Chinese city with a moderate epidemic and may even become the second Wuhan.

Liang Haonan, an infectious disease consultant at Elizabeth Novena Hospital, denied this statement in an interview. He pointed out that about half of the cases in our country were imported from abroad, which is not surprising considering that Singapore's passenger flow is high and is popular with Chinese tourists.
Medical level affects severity

More importantly, through temperature detection and tracking of people who have been in close contact with patients, our country carefully identifies potential cases, and provides a daily isolation allowance of 100 yuan and free treatment to make patients willing to show up.

Liang Haonan said: "Although there will be more confirmed cases in the early stage of our country, the potential return is that daily cases will remain at a low level. Without this, although there are fewer initial cases, it will increase exponentially afterwards.

Professor Temayaya, president of the Asia-Pacific Association of Clinical Microbiology and Infectious Diseases, also emphasized that our country and Wuhan cannot be directly compared.

Wuhan was caught off guard by the sudden outbreak, but our country is well prepared and has advanced medical facilities and virus detection kits.

Some websites also said that the death rate of about 0.2% outside Hubei should not be adopted because the epidemic has not fully spread in these places. In this regard, infectious disease experts agree that it takes two to three weeks for the new crown virus to infect and die, so mortality rates outside Hubei will lag behind.

However, it is not appropriate to take the mortality rate of nearly 3.0% in Hubei Province as that reflects the worst case. Liang Haonan said: "Everyone there is exhausted, and there is a shortage of medical services and insufficient equipment. This is unfair."

He pointed out that the level of medical care will directly affect the severity of the epidemic. For example, the survival rate of people infected with the Ebola virus in Atlanta, the United States, is 30% to 40% higher than in South Africa, and the survival rate of measles in industrial countries is also 30% to 40% higher than in non-industrial countries.

Temayaya said that our country can refer to the mortality rates in Zhejiang Province or Guangdong Province, which are the second wave of cases, and the level of development is closer to our country. Zhejiang Province and Guangdong Province had 1117 and 1177 cases as of yesterday, respectively. The former had no deaths and the latter had only one.

Just after the Lantern Festival (7th), our country raised the level of anti-epidemic alert to orange, but the "Uncle Faith Lantern Festival" party was still held that night in the Grand Palace in Luoyang, which caused some netizens to accuse the government of failing to learn the lessons of Wuhan Banquet .

However, it is reported that the number of people attending the meeting has dropped by more than half compared with the number of people in previous years. Temayaya said that the government's proposal to cancel or postpone large-scale events, rather than directly ban them, is to place the responsibility on the event organizers and trust the people to make wise decisions.

Liang Haonan also pointed out that there are tens of thousands of rallies in our country every day, but so far only three infected groups have shown that the probability of infection in crowded places is less than 0.01%. "It is easy for the government to ban, but it is difficult to maintain morale, so it is necessary to balance it."

Dr. Wanting Sun, a senior research fellow at the Singapore Policy Research Institute, said that with the increase in global cases and the deepening of medical experts' understanding of the virus, the government must continue to adjust the response, which indirectly makes the public feel high uncertainty.

Studies have shown that articles that evoke strong emotions such as fear, disgust, or anger are often effective in spreading, so articles that cause people's fear and anxiety can spread more easily and quickly after an outbreak.

Hong Zhengjun, a senior researcher at the National Centre for Excellence in National Security Research at Rajaratnam International Research Institute, pointed out that people will feel fear in crises, eager to obtain information and seek explanations, so they believe in conspiracy theories, and share the order because they want to protect the community.

 

Message of fear.
Social media speeds up this process because it is both a powerful tool for sharing information and prioritizing the display of sensational articles to increase user engagement.

Fake information is fabricated for different reasons. Some people may draw conclusions too hastily, others are for mischief. Sun Wanting said that people want to protect the people around them, and may also promote the spread of fake information, because their mentality is "careful is better than regret."

Hong Zhengjun believes that in order to counter this, in addition to government officials, some influential and respected people should remind the community, family and friends to stay calm. The public should also stop and think before sharing information that may cause panic or taking irrational action.

 

 

 

[lonelyglobe]

quite true,  that's why i don't believe so few cases in Thailand and Malaysia,  both are popular destination with China group.  The China group that infected the local tour guide + shop assistant went to JB for 3 days and nothing happen there? The South Korean got infected after visiting thailand show that the virus have reached the local community there, somemore they are not stopping china tourist, is more serious as thailand is one of Sporean favourite place to visit. 

Edited February 12, 2020 by lonelyglobe

[HendryTan]

1. The credentials of the 2 Infectious Disease Specialists quoted in the above articles

https://www.zaobao.com.sg/znews/singapore/story20200212-1028165

 

2. Both are Practicing Medical Specialist in Infectious Diseases.

ie They are on the Frontline of dealing with the Coronavirus in Singapore.

 

And they can COMMUNICATE SIMPLY and CLEARLY which is very important in such times of crisis.

 

3. Dr Leong Hoe Nam is an Infectious Disease Specialist at Mt Elizabeth Novena. He is in private practice.

http://www.rophiclinic.com.sg/profile/

 

 

4. Prof Paul Tambyah is an Infectious Disease Specialist at NUH and NCID. Secretary-General of the Asia-Pacific Society of Clinical Microbiology and Infection. He is also Chairman of SDP.

https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/singapore/paul-tambyah-chairman-singapore-democratic-party-on-the-record-10527550

 

 

 

[Guest Guest]

45 minutes ago, lonelyglobe said:

quite true,  that's why i don't believe so few cases in Thailand and Malaysia,  both are popular destination with China group.  The China group that infected the local tour guide + shop assistant went to JB for 3 days and nothing happen there? The South Korean got infected aftet visiting thailand also show the virus have reached the local community there and they are not stopping china tourist, is more serious as thailand is one of Sporean favourite place to visit. 

 

You try INDIA... 😓 😓 😓 

3 cases since the onset?

Bluff also don't bluff until like that la... 

 

[lonelyglobe]

8 minutes ago, Guest Guest said:

 

You try INDIA... 😓 😓 😓 

3 cases since the onset?

Bluff also don't bluff until like that la... 

 

That one confirm kelong... But not many sporeans go India as compare to Malaysia and Thailand but wait..... a lot of India tourist like to come here 😅

Edited February 12, 2020 by lonelyglobe

[Guest Guest]

1 hour ago, lonelyglobe said:

quite true,  that's why i don't believe so few cases in Thailand and Malaysia,  both are popular destination with China group.  The China group that infected the local tour guide + shop assistant went to JB for 3 days and nothing happen there? The South Korean got infected after visiting thailand show that the virus have reached the local community there, somemore they are not stopping china tourist, is more serious as thailand is one of Sporean favourite place to visit. 

 

British prisoner with suspected coronavirus was ‘transferred from Thai jail’

 

https://metro.co.uk/2020/02/11/british-prisoner-suspected-coronavirus-transferred-thai-jail-12223773/

 

If this is true then its a lot more widespread in Thailand, undetected, untested, unreported.

[HendryTan]

17 minutes ago, Guest Guest said:

I want to go indonesia now. There is zero cases in indonesia. I believe it is so because of indonesia's high level of medical practice and the population is very healthy.

 

You always hear people say 'in singapore, you can die but cannot get sick' because of the extremely high cost of getting sick .. but you never hear that in indonesia .... medical services is cheap amd effective ... taking care of its citizens. Thats why mighty Indonesia has zero cases. 

 

IRRESPONSIBLE Forumers like you post such "Smart Alec" post thinking it is funny.

 

Please bear in mind there are SIMPLE Folks who may be SERIOUSLY misled.

 

In this time of crisis, everyone please post RESPONSIBLY.

 

We'll be MODERATING this topic closely.

 

Hendry Tan

Admin cum Moderator

 

 

 

[Guest Guest]

DBS Evacuates 300 Singapore Staff After Coronavirus Case

(Bloomberg) --*DBS Group Holdings has evacuated all 300 employees on level 43 of MBFC Tower 3 after a worker tested positive for the novel coronavirus on Wednesday, according to an internal memo seen by Bloomberg.

The employees were evacuated as a precautionary measure and will work from home for the time being.

DBS will provide the infected staff member and his family with support and guidance.

Bank is conducting “detailed contact tracing” to ensure those who have been in close contact are informed.

DBS confirms the contents of the memo and plans to issue a statement.

 

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-02-12/dbs-evacuates-300-singapore-staff-after-worker-gets-coronavirus

[lonelyglobe]

SINGAPORE - There are three more confirmed cases of the coronavirus here, bringing the total number of those who have been infected to 50.

[Guest Guest]

Still unverified but someone might have got it 42 days later, that's a really long incubation period.

 

https://news.sina.com.cn/o/2020-02-10/doc-iimxxstf0384205.shtml

[AFter8]

 

6 hours ago, HendryTan said:

 

IRRESPONSIBLE Forumers like you post such "Smart Alec" post thinking it is funny.

 

Please bear in mind there are SIMPLE Folks who may be SERIOUSLY misled.

 

In this time of crisis, everyone please post RESPONSIBLY.

 

We'll be MODERATING this topic closely.

 

Hendry Tan

Admin cum Moderator

 

 

 

Hello, is there some way to change this thread's subject heading to the newly-assigned WHO term, please?  This will remove the stigmatization to any city name.

[lonelyglobe]

7 hours ago, Guest Guest said:

 

British prisoner with suspected coronavirus was ‘transferred from Thai jail’

 

https://metro.co.uk/2020/02/11/british-prisoner-suspected-coronavirus-transferred-thai-jail-12223773/

 

If this is true then its a lot more widespread in Thailand, undetected, untested, unreported.

Undetected if due to limited resources got nothing to say but if is due to economic consideration,  then that is very irresponsible just like indonesia, they evacuated Indonesians from wuhan but got no intention to check for virus and that's why zero case,  when u have this kind of neighbour is really "suay"

[Guest Hahaha]

9 hours ago, lonelyglobe said:

quite true,  that's why i don't believe so few cases in Thailand and Malaysia,  both are popular destination with China group.  The China group that infected the local tour guide + shop assistant went to JB for 3 days and nothing happen there? The South Korean got infected after visiting thailand show that the virus have reached the local community there, somemore they are not stopping china tourist, is more serious as thailand is one of Sporean favourite place to visit. 

 

What are you trying to suggest by drawing reference to Thailand and Malaysia? Please be mindful with your words. 

[lonelyglobe]

2 minutes ago, Guest Hahaha said:

 

What are you trying to suggest by drawing reference to Thailand and Malaysia? Please be mindful with your words. 

If u have follow my post u will know what I trying to draw,  if u have not I m not interested to explain to u,  thanks. 

[Guest Guest]

29 minutes ago, lonelyglobe said:

Undetected if due to limited resources got nothing to say but if is due to economic consideration,  then that is very irresponsible just like indonesia, they evacuated Indonesians from wuhan but got no intention to check for virus and that's why zero case,  when u have this kind of neighbour is really "suay"

 

O well, nothing much we can do, no restrictions whatsoever, just gonna get worse.

 

Coronavirus patient visited Bali last month: Chinese authorities

 

https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/se-asia/coronavirus-patient-visited-bali-last-month-chinese-authorities?utm_medium=Social&utm_campaign=STFB&utm_source=Facebook&fbclid=IwAR0bmZMiotZEq8e8YLXp4MBSMLJ-sfy--FmbUy9n5Oaj6jhVtuy8sRPt0QM#Echobox=1581521191

 

[lonelyglobe]

Yes,  I suppose nothing u can do but if that happen SG sure on red because china and Indonesia is the top 1 & 2 tourist arrival here and so many sporean travel there too. God bless.