Elon Musk and Twitter

[7heaven]

3 minutes ago, singalion said:

 

Sorry, it was a weird US president who used twitter as his means of communication and not the White House press.

 

Trump even terminated Secretaries and other staff through twitter.

 

It was Trump's choice of mode of communication to use twitter.

 

Instead of posting a video on the proper White House channels on 6 Jan, Trump published the video on his personal twitter account.

 

Please get the things straight.

 

 

Did you have evidence that the president did not send official notice of termination and simply just used Twitter to terminate his staff? 
 

Are there any law that forbids the president from posting videos on his twitter account? 

[singalion]

1 minute ago, 7heaven said:

Did the House committee in 2021 open any inquires into how Joe biden may be compromised with Hunter Biden’s shady deals? How would we know if the House Committee don’t carry out any probes? 
 

If they did, there will be many users in Twitter discussing about it. 

 

Out of topic!

 

Please get back to the topic of Elon Musk and twitter.

 

If we start discussion what all is on twitter in this thread, then we can talk about the discussion on the Copacabana whether the sand is still clean or not...  or if flower grow better under yellow light....

 

 

[singalion]

1 minute ago, 7heaven said:

Did you have evidence that the president did not send official notice of termination and simply just used Twitter to terminate his staff? 
 

Are there any law that forbids the president from posting videos on his twitter account? 

 

Yes, I knew you would not comprehend the point.

 

Futile to go on discussing with you on such subjects.

 

 

[7heaven]

29 minutes ago, singalion said:

 

Out of topic!

 

Please get back to the topic of Elon Musk and twitter.

 

If we start discussion what all is on twitter in this thread, then we can talk about the discussion on the Copacabana whether the sand is still clean or not...  or if flower grow better under yellow light....

 

 

You had started with your out of topic rant in this thread about Jan 6.

 

 

Let’s take a look: 

 

45 minutes ago, singalion said:

 

Why is there then a 6 January insurrection hearing at the Senate?

 

Because Trump was so peaceful not to send his mob to storm the congress?

 

How more deluded can you get, 7heaven?

 

What to know about the public January 6 committee hearings

The House select committee investigating the January 6 Capitol attack is scheduled on Thursday to hold the first of six public hearings where it will unveil new evidence collected against Donald Trump and a range of other operatives over the course of its 10-month inquiry.

The congressional investigation into the events of January 6, when a pro-Trump mob stormed the Capitol to stop the certification of Joe Biden’s election win, has said it has evidence to suggest Trump violated the law to overturn the 2020 election results.

 

What is the point of the hearings and what evidence do they have?

The select committee’s ambitions for the hearings are twofold: presenting the basis for alleging Trump broke the law, and placing the Capitol attack in a broader context of efforts to overturn the election, with the ex-president’s involvement as the central thread.

Among some of the evidence that has already become public include admissions from Trump’s top former legal adviser John Eastman, who admitted in emails obtained by the panel that his plan to obstruct Biden’s certification was unlawful – but pressed ahead anyway.

The select committee has also obtained White House records that Trump attempted to hide from the inquiry, before he was overruled by the supreme court, that indicated he lied to his supporters that he would march with them to the Capitol to send them to the building.

House investigators have also obtained testimony and photo and video from inside the White House as the pro-Trump mob stormed the Capitol, including about how he appeared to obstruct the certification through inaction by refusing to tell the rioters to leave Capitol Hill.

The panel also expects to chart the re-emergence of the “Stop the Steal” movement by the Trump activist Ali Alexander and others, and how leaders of militia groups like the Proud Boys, Oath Keepers and the First Amendment Praetorian coalesced before January 6.

 

 

[7heaven]

30 minutes ago, singalion said:

 

Yes, I knew you would not comprehend the point.

 

Futile to go on discussing with you on such subjects.

 

 

Funny you always seem dismiss a topic of discussion when u are unable to continue further with anything of value-add. 

[Steve5380]

2 hours ago, singalion said:

 

How more deluded can you get, 7heaven?

 

 

I don't think that @7heaven is deluded at all.   I speculate that he is simply enjoying his malevolent teasing.

 

But one distinction he obviously has:  he is the one poster who has the strongest influence in making you post endless replies to his teasing, both here and in the US politics thread,  giving him the opportunity to fill an endless number of precious pages in this BW forum with his Dummheit.  And so to read all this crap becomes increasingly senseless. 

[singalion]

43 minutes ago, Steve5380 said:

 

I don't think that @7heaven is deluded at all.   I speculate that he is simply enjoying his malevolent teasing.

 

But one distinction he obviously has:  he is the one poster who has the strongest influence in making you post endless replies to his teasing, both here and in the US politics thread,  giving him the opportunity to fill an endless number of precious pages in this BW forum with his Dummheit.  And so to read all this crap becomes increasingly senseless. 

 

Your repeated framing his actions as just "teasing" doesn't serve anything. 

 

I don't think it is meant to tease but it is a reflection of a mental deranged obsessive and compulsive impulse. 

 

On the other hand your playing down of his actions follows the same error that the West committed with Putin. 

 

In my personal view, nobody would take such an effort throughout 2 years soon, if it just was meant as teasing. 

 

I tried explaining 7heaven's personal background on his "motivation" some weeks ago. 

 

It is the typical scapegoat blame trait that mental deranged people apply in order to avoid to recognise or admit the own failings. (Projection Syndrome or Disorder). 

 

7heaven has placed himself into that corner. 

 

Edited November 28, 2022 by singalion

[Steve5380]

2 minutes ago, singalion said:

 

On the other hand your playing down of his actions follows the same error that the West committed with Putin. 

 

 

Now I think I start to understand why you are so concerned about @7heaven's posting:  you consider him as dangerous to society as Putin.

 

I don't think that the West has been and is playing down the actions of Putin.  Instead, I find that it is behaving very cautiously to avoid an escalation into WWIII. There is the possibility that, sane or crazy,  Putin has the potential to inflict terrible damage to humanity.

[singalion]

Also, I see his trait of repeating the same content that excessively as a result of a mental derangement. 

 

It follows an impulse to persuade himself that his view or point is not wrong or untrue. 

 

People with such mental shortcomings react this way. 

 

[singalion]

2 minutes ago, Steve5380 said:

 

I don't think that the West has been and is playing down the actions of Putin.  Instead, I find that it is behaving very cautiously to avoid an escalation into WWIII. There is the possibility that, sane or crazy,  Putin has the potential to inflict terrible damage to humanity.

 

I was talking about the approach of the West before Putin started this war.

 

Before he started the war in Febuary this year nobody in the West recognised their false assessment of Putin.

 

[7heaven]

51 minutes ago, Steve5380 said:

 

I don't think that @7heaven is deluded at all.   I speculate that he is simply enjoying his malevolent teasing.

 

But one distinction he obviously has:  he is the one poster who has the strongest influence in making you post endless replies to his teasing, both here and in the US politics thread,  giving him the opportunity to fill an endless number of precious pages in this BW forum with his Dummheit.  And so to read all this crap becomes increasingly senseless. 

I am doing everyone else in this forum a favour which is to keep him busy responding to me so that he don’t have time going around offending other members in different threads. 😂 

[singalion]

Substantiation lacking!

[Steve5380]

3 hours ago, 7heaven said:

I am doing everyone else in this forum a favour which is to keep him busy responding to me so that he don’t have time going around offending other members in different threads. 😂 

 

 

I give you credit for your good intention,  but he is not as bad as you make him appear.  Maybe the two of you could hold a moment of silence,  in honor of the BW readers.   ( a moment is an undefined amount of time,  between a nanosecond and an eternity )

.

Edited November 28, 2022 by Steve5380

[Steve5380]

4 hours ago, singalion said:

 

I was talking about the approach of the West before Putin started this war.

 

Before he started the war in Febuary this year nobody in the West recognised their false assessment of Putin.

 

 

Well...  for several years now,  people in the know  already recognized the false assessment of Putin by Donald Trump.  And they also recognized Trump's false assessment of Kim Jong-un.  And his opposite false assessment of any decent person.

.

Edited November 28, 2022 by Steve5380

[singalion]

 

Elon Musk accuses Apple of threatening to remove Twitter from App Store

Twitter owner says Apple gave no reason for the potential ban and had stopped advertising on the platform

 

Mon 28 Nov 2022

 

Elon Musk has accused Apple of threatening to remove Twitter from its App Store without giving a reason to the social media platform.

Twitter’s new owner also said the iPhone maker had stopped advertising on Twitter, prompting him to ask if the tech group hated free speech.

 

Musk appeared to confirm that Twitter content moderation was an issue for Apple. Asked by a journalist user if Apple was “threatening Twitter’s presence in the App Store or otherwise making moderation demands”, Musk replied “yes”.

 

OMG, another witch hunt?

 

 

 

[singalion]

3 hours ago, Steve5380 said:

 

Well...  for several years now,  people in the know  already recognized the false assessment of Putin by Donald Trump.  And they also recognized Trump's false assessment of Kim Jong-un.  And his opposite false assessment of any decent person.

.

 

Where do I seriously offend any Members?

 

Is there something on twitter?  😂

 

 

[Steve5380]

2 hours ago, singalion said:

 

Where do I seriously offend any Members?

 

Is there something on twitter?  😂

 

 

???  Where is in my post you quoted anything about you?   I spoke of Putin, Donald Trump and Kim Jong-un.  But in any case,  I don't think that you seriously offend any member. 

[singalion]

There seems to be another brilliant businessman the sort of Trump out there...

 

Elon Musk ‘resolves’ Apple row over ‘removal of Twitter from iPhone store’

After chat with Tim Cook the tycoon admits misunderstanding and Apple had ‘never considered removing platform’

 

Thu 1 Dec 2022 09.06

 

 

 

Elon Musk has said he has “resolved” a misunderstanding with Apple over his claim that Twitter was being threatened with removal from the iPhone maker’s app store.

The new Twitter owner tweeted on Wednesday that he had had a “good conversation” with Apple CEO Tim Cook and that Apple had “never considered” removing the social media platform from its app store.

 

On Monday, Musk used his Twitter account to claim that Apple had broached removing Twitter for unspecified reasons. The Tesla CEO then indicated it was related to moderation standards at Twitter, while he launched a series of tweets criticising Apple including its policy of taking a cut of up to 30% from app sales.

 

[7heaven]

4 hours ago, singalion said:

There seems to be another brilliant businessman the sort of Trump out there...

 

Elon Musk ‘resolves’ Apple row over ‘removal of Twitter from iPhone store’

After chat with Tim Cook the tycoon admits misunderstanding and Apple had ‘never considered removing platform’

 

Thu 1 Dec 2022 09.06

 

 

 

Elon Musk has said he has “resolved” a misunderstanding with Apple over his claim that Twitter was being threatened with removal from the iPhone maker’s app store.

The new Twitter owner tweeted on Wednesday that he had had a “good conversation” with Apple CEO Tim Cook and that Apple had “never considered” removing the social media platform from its app store.

 

On Monday, Musk used his Twitter account to claim that Apple had broached removing Twitter for unspecified reasons. The Tesla CEO then indicated it was related to moderation standards at Twitter, while he launched a series of tweets criticising Apple including its policy of taking a cut of up to 30% from app sales.

 

Assuming this is true, looks like Apple did not bend to the whims and fancies of activists to sabotage Twitter. 

[sgmaven]

I think Musk is resorting to controversial posts to stir interest/activity on twitter... Attention-seeker, we know. But getting desperate to get traffic on his US$44 billion purchase?

[7heaven]

I think the activists and media organisations are resorting to pressure and cancel other organisations who refuse to go along with them to make things difficult for Musk and Twitter. 
 

Their repeated hit pieces in publications are going nowhere when Twitter under Musk is actually making it a safer platform more than ever after Musk purges child pornography, extremists like Antifas. Ordinary people are recognising that and especially so after Apple reassured that Apple will not remove Twitter from its platform. 
 

Will the activists and media organisations go after and cancel Apple now for refusing to support them in tripping Twitter up under Musk? 

Edited December 2, 2022 by 7heaven
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[Guest Wtf]

31 minutes ago, Since u r here said:

well done, EM! thanks!
i cannot imagine a world w/o Musk


 

Musk kicks Kanye West off Twitter for 'incitement to violence'

Kanye West, pictured in 2020, has seen his commercial relationships crumble after a series of anti-Semitic comments. (File photo: AFP/Jean-Baptiste Lacroix)

 

 

Elon Musk kicked Kanye West off Twitter on Friday (Dec 2), after the controversial rapper posted a picture that appeared to show a swastika interlaced with a Star of David.

Twitter owner Elon Musk, who calls himself a free speech absolutist, had welcomed the return of the rapper, now known as Ye, to the platform in October.

https://www.channelnewsasia.com/business/elon-musk-kicks-kanye-west-twitter-incitement-violence-3117706

In his latest tweet late on Thursday, Musk said: "I tried my best. Despite that, he again violated our rule against incitement to violence. Account will be suspended."

You ‘can’t imagine a world without Musk’?!!’ 😂 wtf?!

 

you do understand that he let Ye back on Twitter in the first place, knowing full well what he tweets?!

 

it’s like Musk took a shit in the corner and now you are thinking him for cleaning it up 

[7heaven]

46 minutes ago, Guest Wtf said:

You ‘can’t imagine a world without Musk’?!!’ 😂 wtf?!

 

you do understand that he let Ye back on Twitter in the first place, knowing full well what he tweets?!

 

it’s like Musk took a shit in the corner and now you are thinking him for cleaning it up 

Musk was not the one who let Ye back. It was the previous Twitter management who let Ye back. 
 

By suspending Ye now, Musk was simply  cleaning up the mess left behind by the previous Twitter management. 

 

Twitter had restored the account of the rapper, before the completion of the social media platform's US$44 billion takeover by Musk. However, Musk later clarified that he had no role in bringing Ye back on Twitter.

https://www.channelnewsasia.com/business/elon-musk-kicks-kanye-west-twitter-incitement-violence-3117706

 

[Guest Wtf]

24 minutes ago, 7heaven said:

Musk was not the one who let Ye back. It was the previous Twitter management who let Ye back. 
 

By suspending Ye now, Musk was simply  cleaning up the mess left behind by the previous Twitter management. 

 

Twitter had restored the account of the rapper, before the completion of the social media platform's US$44 billion takeover by Musk. However, Musk later clarified that he had no role in bringing Ye back on Twitter.

https://www.channelnewsasia.com/business/elon-musk-kicks-kanye-west-twitter-incitement-violence-3117706

 

my mistake, thanks for clarifying (even if I disagree with all your other posts)

 

58 minutes ago, Since u r here said:

everyone deserved a chance! no matter how others painted them

 

get a grip 

 

 

[Steve5380]

4 hours ago, Since u r here said:

everyone deserved a chance! no matter how others painted them

 

You are very kind.  But Nature may be much more impersonal, colder than zero degree absolute...

 

The term "deserve" is a human fantasy.  No one deserves anything, and at the same time, everyone deserves everything.  There is no natural law with Universal Constants against which the "deserve" of insignificant microscopic creatures can be measured.  But we can always fantasize. like I do now thinking that the bacteria in my gut "deserve" to be fed soon.

[sgmaven]

On 12/2/2022 at 1:01 PM, 7heaven said:

Their repeated hit pieces in publications are going nowhere when Twitter under Musk is actually making it a safer platform more than ever after Musk purges child pornography, extremists like Antifas. Ordinary people are recognising that and especially so after Apple reassured that Apple will not remove Twitter from its platform.

I think you are very much mistaken! There is very much more fake news now on twitter, and we are concerned about that (except those who go on twitter only for the NSFW feeds). There has also been an increase in hate speech. Hell, even Twitter Management (whoever they are now), have agreed about these points, and say that they are working on it.

 

On 12/2/2022 at 1:01 PM, 7heaven said:

ill the activists and media organisations go after and cancel Apple now for refusing to support them in tripping Twitter up under Musk? 

Did Apple really threaten to "cancel" twitter? Or was it a paranoid Elon Musk who just decided to tweet about it? There was no official stance by Apple, saying that they were going to remove Twitter from the App Store. It was a story told by Elon Musk on his Twitter feed, which he later revealed was false. He had clarified it with Tim Cook. That is what makes me think that Elon Musk is just tweeting salacious tweets to draw people back to the platform, after many users have moved away.

[singalion]

On 12/2/2022 at 6:08 PM, Guest Wtf said:

my mistake, thanks for clarifying

 

First thing  I want to laud Guest Wtf for being able to admit a mistake or error he has done.

 

Such behaviour I have never seen from 7heaven, instead even after proven false he will still claim that his point was correct.

 

I laud BW posters who can admit to their error.

 

 

[singalion]

On 12/2/2022 at 4:17 PM, Since u r here said:

well done, EM! thanks!
i cannot imagine a world w/o Musk


 

Musk kicks Kanye West off Twitter for 'incitement to violence'

 

But these are just the prominent names.

 

How many other outspoken fascists and anti-Semites are still on twitter pushing their hate talk.

 

Same goes for plenty of gay haters, antifa haters, vice versa....

 

Those spreading hate speech should be suspended and banned.

 

But I don't think twitter will manage this with AI and just 5 people on the team.

 

 

[singalion]

On 12/2/2022 at 1:01 PM, 7heaven said:

Musk purges child pornography, extremists like Antifas.

 

and why didn't you mention the Oath keepers, Proud boys and other malicious organisations?

 

You find hatred against right wing extremists should be banned but those hate speech right wing extremists should be allowed to the platform because of freedom of speech???

 

Blind on one eye? or bias?

 

In my view both the right wingers and and extreme leftists should all have no place on twitter.

Everyone who call for violence against any other should be permanently banned from twitter.

[singalion]

On 12/2/2022 at 5:09 PM, Since u r here said:

everyone deserved a chance! no matter how others painted them

 

You are right (on saying give him a chance first) but unfortunately the pre-twitter purchase talk of Musk let many people skeptical that he is the guy who does a neutral job. With his latest affiliation to one side, he surely demonstrated that he is the wrong guy to rule neutrally and objectively in twitter.

 

And why does he still interfere, why not let his head of bans talk, why must he come out and do the talk.

 

Edited December 4, 2022 by singalion

[singalion]

4 hours ago, sgmaven said:

paranoid Elon Musk who just decided to tweet about it? There was no official stance by Apple, saying that they were going to remove Twitter from the App Store. It was a story told by Elon Musk on his Twitter feed, which he later revealed was false.

 

His temper is his problem.

 

He intended to threaten Apple not to cut the ads on twitter.

[singalion]

On 12/2/2022 at 5:39 PM, 7heaven said:

Musk was not the one who let Ye back. It was the previous Twitter management who let Ye back. 
 

By suspending Ye now, Musk was simply  cleaning up the mess left behind by the previous Twitter management. 

 

Twitter had restored the account of the rapper, before the completion of the social media platform's US$44 billion takeover by Musk. However, Musk later clarified that he had no role in bringing Ye back on Twitter.

https://www.channelnewsasia.com/business/elon-musk-kicks-kanye-west-twitter-incitement-violence-3117706

 

 

But this is hypocrite.

 

When Trump was rightfully suspended he claimed that Twitter violates free speech.

 

Same goes for Ye.

 

Do you really think Twitter took an easy decision to let Ye back in October 2022?

Was it to giving suspended members a second chance?

 

And was there any new violation from him after the period? No the latest violation was just now under Musk's rule.

 

Since you are here talks of giving someone a chance / second chance... then how?

 

 

The right wing has always been claiming that twitter has been curtailing free speech.

 

Fact is that Kanye West was suspended before the Musk takeover in February 2022 due to his tweets.

 

And look at this and you can see that Musk is totally the wrong guy to interfere into twitter.

He should lean back and stop interfering into twitter.

 

Quote:

Twitter reinstated Ye's account just before Musk's takeover. Musk greeted him upon his return to the platform in October, saying, “Welcome back to Twitter, my friend!”

 

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2022/12/02/kanye-west-twitter-suspended-elon-musk/

[singalion]

Just for your info:

 

Wearing a swastika or placating it is not a violation or crime in the US.

 

 

Quote:

 

While America protects the right of neo-Nazis, white supremacists, the Ku Klux Klan, and other hate groups to hold public rallies and express their views openly, Germany has strict laws banning Nazi symbols and what’s called Volksverhetzung — incitement of the people, or hate speech. Like more than a dozen European countries, Germany also has a law criminalizing Holocaust denial.

 

[7heaven]

7 hours ago, sgmaven said:

I think you are very much mistaken! There is very much more fake news now on twitter, and we are concerned about that (except those who go on twitter only for the NSFW feeds). There has also been an increase in hate speech. Hell, even Twitter Management (whoever they are now), have agreed about these points, and say that they are working on it.

 

Did Apple really threaten to "cancel" twitter? Or was it a paranoid Elon Musk who just decided to tweet about it? There was no official stance by Apple, saying that they were going to remove Twitter from the App Store. It was a story told by Elon Musk on his Twitter feed, which he later revealed was false. He had clarified it with Tim Cook. That is what makes me think that Elon Musk is just tweeting salacious tweets to draw people back to the platform, after many users have moved away.

I think you are extremely mistaken. There were a lot of fake news and bots and child pornography before Musk took over. Musk is now doubling the effort to clean up the mess left over by the previous management. 
 

There were activists calling Apple and Google to remove Twitter. Musk did the right thing to meet with Apple management to clarify and was assured that Apple will not remove Twitter. These activists the very ones who are stoking fear simply because Twitter under Musk will not do their bidding and they are trying desperately to make Twitter a failure now. Their ulterior motive is plain for all to see. 

[7heaven]

3 hours ago, singalion said:

 

and why didn't you mention the Oath keepers, Proud boys and other malicious organisations?

 

You find hatred against right wing extremists should be banned but those hate speech right wing extremists should be allowed to the platform because of freedom of speech???

 

Blind on one eye? or bias?

 

In my view both the right wingers and and extreme leftists should all have no place on twitter.

Everyone who call for violence against any other should be permanently banned from twitter.

If these accounts still exist, this shows that the previous Twitter management was not doing a good job despite having so many staff. 

[singalion]

12 minutes ago, 7heaven said:

If these accounts still exist, this shows that the previous Twitter management was not doing a good job despite having so many staff. 

 

As usual you don't respond to the question but just repeat your nonsensical statement. 

 

If your point is right, why is then Trump's account re-instated. It should be equally banned for good. 

 

 

[sgmaven]

46 minutes ago, 7heaven said:

There were activists calling Apple and Google to remove Twitter. Musk did the right thing to meet with Apple management to clarify and was assured that Apple will not remove Twitter. These activists the very ones who are stoking fear simply because Twitter under Musk will not do their bidding and they are trying desperately to make Twitter a failure now. Their ulterior motive is plain for all to see. 

I can only surmise that you are extremely biased. Elon Musk tweeted that Apple was threatening to "cancel" Twitter from their App store without even bothering to check with Apple management first. Whether that was just a publicity stunt to draw more attention (attention seeker much?) or just being irresponsible to listen and post based on rumours.

 

Whatever it is, whether there is pressure from activists, as a public figure, you don't post about things without first verifying it with the people concerned (Apple, in this case). As it turns out, his "fears" were completely unwarranted, as Tim Cook stated that Apple did not even consider banning/cancelling Twitter from the App Store.

 

Elon Musk is just acting like a spoilt brat, insisting on what he wants and tweeting irresponsibly, without proper fact-checking. Perhaps, if he weren't the owner of Twitter, he would even be banned by them, for stirring up unnecessary falsehoods.

[7heaven]

4 hours ago, singalion said:

 

But this is hypocrite.

 

When Trump was rightfully suspended he claimed that Twitter violates free speech.

 

Same goes for Ye.

 

Do you really think Twitter took an easy decision to let Ye back in October 2022?

Was it to giving suspended members a second chance?

 

And was there any new violation from him after the period? No the latest violation was just now under Musk's rule.

 

Since you are here talks of giving someone a chance / second chance... then how?

 

 

The right wing has always been claiming that twitter has been curtailing free speech.

 

Fact is that Kanye West was suspended before the Musk takeover in February 2022 due to his tweets.

 

And look at this and you can see that Musk is totally the wrong guy to interfere into twitter.

He should lean back and stop interfering into twitter.

 

Quote:

Twitter reinstated Ye's account just before Musk's takeover. Musk greeted him upon his return to the platform in October, saying, “Welcome back to Twitter, my friend!”

 

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2022/12/02/kanye-west-twitter-suspended-elon-musk/

We do not know if it was difficult or not difficult for the previous Twitter management to reinstate Ye. 
 

Instead of appreciating the chance given, Ye still courted controversy and got his twitter suspended again. He only has himself to blame for posting a picture to show a swastika interlaced with a Star of David. 
 

Musk is the correct person to lead Twitter because he has the courage to do the right things to purge Twitter of accounts belonging to extremist group like Antifa and child pornography. And he did this with $44billion which is extremely expensive. 

 

LOS ANGELES: Elon Musk kicked Kanye West off Twitter on Friday (Dec 2), after the controversial rapper posted a picture that appeared to show a swastika interlaced with a Star of David.

 

https://www.channelnewsasia.com/business/elon-musk-kicks-kanye-west-twitter-incitement-violence-3117706

 

[7heaven]

1 hour ago, singalion said:

 

As usual you don't respond to the question but just repeat your nonsensical statement. 

 

If your point is right, why is then Trump's account re-instated. It should be equally banned for good. 

 

 

Musk already stated the reasons for unbanning Trump. People who don’t know enough can choose to disagree but it is up to Musk to decide as Twitter is his own company. If users of Twitter do not like it, they can choose to stop using twitter. What’s stopping them? 

[7heaven]

36 minutes ago, sgmaven said:

I can only surmise that you are extremely biased. Elon Musk tweeted that Apple was threatening to "cancel" Twitter from their App store without even bothering to check with Apple management first. Whether that was just a publicity stunt to draw more attention (attention seeker much?) or just being irresponsible to listen and post based on rumours.

 

Whatever it is, whether there is pressure from activists, as a public figure, you don't post about things without first verifying it with the people concerned (Apple, in this case). As it turns out, his "fears" were completely unwarranted, as Tim Cook stated that Apple did not even consider banning/cancelling Twitter from the App Store.

 

Elon Musk is just acting like a spoilt brat, insisting on what he wants and tweeting irresponsibly, without proper fact-checking. Perhaps, if he weren't the owner of Twitter, he would even be banned by them, for stirring up unnecessary falsehoods.

I can equally surmise that you are extremely biased. The activists and media organisations have already been stoking fear about Twitter after Musk bought it. When their initiate attacks did not sink Twitter, they resorted to pressure Apple and Google to deplatform Twitter. If anything, Musk had acted on the pressure of these activists, knowing full well how they had succeeded in pressuring them to stop ads with Twitter. Musk did the right thing to speak directly with Apple management to clarify that Apple will not bend to the demands of these activists. 
 

These activists and media organisations are just acting like spoilt brats now after new owner Musk refuse to do their bidding. For too long, they have been accustomed to getting what they want with the previous Twitter management. With Musk at the helm now, he is courageously putting a stop their demands and nonsense. Musk is aware who some of these activists are but he is being fair to allow their accounts to exist because as long as they don’t cross the line, they should be allowed to whine and have full meltdown on twitter. 

[sgmaven]

1 hour ago, 7heaven said:

I can equally surmise that you are extremely biased. The activists and media organisations have already been stoking fear about Twitter after Musk bought it. When their initiate attacks did not sink Twitter, they resorted to pressure Apple and Google to deplatform Twitter. If anything, Musk had acted on the pressure of these activists, knowing full well how they had succeeded in pressuring them to stop ads with Twitter. Musk did the right thing to speak directly with Apple management to clarify that Apple will not bend to the demands of these activists. 
 

These activists and media organisations are just acting like spoilt brats now after new owner Musk refuse to do their bidding. For too long, they have been accustomed to getting what they want with the previous Twitter management. With Musk at the helm now, he is courageously putting a stop their demands and nonsense. Musk is aware who some of these activists are but he is being fair to allow their accounts to exist because as long as they don’t cross the line, they should be allowed to whine and have full meltdown on twitter. 

I knew it was expecting too much for someone like @7heavento even admit to the truth...

 

Elon Musk did not check with Apple about anything, before he tweeted about Apple threatening to deplatform Twitter. And when he finally picked up the phone to Tim Cook, it was totally unfounded. At least he could have apologised for unnecessarily stirring up controversy.

 

Note that I am not even talking about any activists or lobby group, because in the end, it is Apple who calls the shots on whether to strike Twitter off the App Store, or not. It is not the activists or lobbyists, no matter how much pressure they may exert. So, one can only blame one Elon Musk for shooting from his hip, and accusing Apple of something that was unfounded (and subsequently found to be the case).

[7heaven]

2 hours ago, sgmaven said:

I knew it was expecting too much for someone like @7heavento even admit to the truth...

 

Elon Musk did not check with Apple about anything, before he tweeted about Apple threatening to deplatform Twitter. And when he finally picked up the phone to Tim Cook, it was totally unfounded. At least he could have apologised for unnecessarily stirring up controversy.

 

Note that I am not even talking about any activists or lobby group, because in the end, it is Apple who calls the shots on whether to strike Twitter off the App Store, or not. It is not the activists or lobbyists, no matter how much pressure they may exert. So, one can only blame one Elon Musk for shooting from his hip, and accusing Apple of something that was unfounded (and subsequently found to be the case).

It is ok for you to believe what you want even if it departs greatly from the truth. 
 

Elon Musk did the right thing to approach Apple management and things were cleared up. And he did so quickly when activists first mooted the idea of asking Apple and Google to remove twitter. 
 

Fortunately, Apple did not crumble under the pressure from the activists and their media organisations buddies who tag team to pressure Apple and Google to deplatform Twitter. Many people are aware how toxic and pervasive the cancel culture that is being perpetuated by these activists and media organisations who will amplify their demands and cancel the people or organisations they disagree with. 
 

One can now look at how Musk is defeating these activists, and causing them endless meltdown. We are waiting for the next move from these activists and their media organisations to disrupt and sabotage Musk and Twitter now that Apple refuse to accede to their demands. 

 

 

[singalion]

1 hour ago, 7heaven said:

It is ok for you to believe what you want even if it departs greatly from the truth. 
 

Elon Musk did the right thing to approach Apple management and things were cleared up. And he did so quickly when activists first mooted the idea of asking Apple and Google to remove twitter. 
 

Fortunately, Apple did not crumble under the pressure from the activists and their media organisations buddies who tag team to pressure Apple and Google to deplatform Twitter. Many people are aware how toxic and pervasive the cancel culture that is being perpetuated by these activists and media organisations who will amplify their demands and cancel the people or organisations they disagree with. 
 

One can now look at how Musk is defeating these activists, and causing them endless meltdown. We are waiting for the next move from these activists and their media organisations to disrupt and sabotage Musk and Twitter now that Apple refuse to accede to their demands. 

 

 

 

Please refrain once again from your manipulation attempts!

 

Since when are some third party tweets representing any evidence of the parties involved. 

 

What the Washington Post writes does not represent any facts of what the position of Apple is. 

 

Elon Musk confirmed himself that Apple never intended to remove twitter from Apple. 

 

 

Substantiation:

Elon Musk says Apple never considered removing Twitter from App Store

 

Nov 30 (Reuters) - Elon Musk on Wednesday tweeted that the misunderstanding about Twitter potentially being removed from Apple Inc's (AAPL.O) App Store was resolved following his meeting with the iPhone maker's (AAPL.O) Chief Executive Tim Cook.

 

"Tim was clear that Apple never considered doing so," the billionaire CEO of Twitter and Tesla Inc (TSLA.O) said in a tweet.

 

 

What is obvious here is , that you 7heaven already totally departed from the truth by the obvious fact that every BW reader can see how you create your own fictitious world...

 

 

[singalion]

5 hours ago, 7heaven said:

Musk already stated the reasons for unbanning Trump. People who don’t know enough can choose to disagree but it is up to Musk to decide as Twitter is his own company. If users of Twitter do not like it, they can choose to stop using twitter. What’s stopping them? 

 

Your response is usual is avoiding to answer the real question and then to digress. 

 

By the way you are totally contradicting yourself here because you ask Musk exactly to do what certain people accused twitter of, namely being arbitrary. 

 

 

[7heaven]

1 hour ago, singalion said:

 

Please refrain once again from your manipulation attempts!

 

Since when are some third party tweets representing any evidence of the parties involved. 

 

What the Washington Post writes does not represent any facts of what the position of Apple is. 

 

Elon Musk confirmed himself that Apple never intended to remove twitter from Apple. 

 

 

Substantiation:

Elon Musk says Apple never considered removing Twitter from App Store

 

Nov 30 (Reuters) - Elon Musk on Wednesday tweeted that the misunderstanding about Twitter potentially being removed from Apple Inc's (AAPL.O) App Store was resolved following his meeting with the iPhone maker's (AAPL.O) Chief Executive Tim Cook.

 

"Tim was clear that Apple never considered doing so," the billionaire CEO of Twitter and Tesla Inc (TSLA.O) said in a tweet.

 

 

What is obvious here is , that you 7heaven already totally departed from the truth by the obvious fact that every BW reader can see how you create your own fictitious world...

 

 

Glad you confirm Washington Post does not represent Apple. 
 

That said, there is no manipulation because it was indeed Musk who went to approach Apple management to confirm that Apple will not de-platform Twitter, contrary to what activists and their media organisations buddies are pressuring Apple to do. 

[7heaven]

1 hour ago, singalion said:

 

Your response is usual is avoiding to answer the real question and then to digress. 

 

By the way you are totally contradicting yourself here because you ask Musk exactly to do what certain people accused twitter of, namely being arbitrary. 

 

 

The real question is can Musk choose to ban or unban any Twitter account since he owns the company? 
 

Musk has provided reasons for banning or unbanning twitter accounts. Just because people disagree with his reasons does not make his decision arbitrary. 
 

The activists and those media organisations who worked overtime and hope Musk and Twitter fail are now proven wrong because some companies are returning to Twitter for their ads. 

[Steve5380]

7 hours ago, 7heaven said:

The real question is can Musk choose to ban or unban any Twitter account since he owns the company? 
 

Musk has provided reasons for banning or unbanning twitter accounts. Just because people disagree with his reasons does not make his decision arbitrary. 
 

The activists and those media organisations who worked overtime and hope Musk and Twitter fail are now proven wrong because some companies are returning to Twitter for their ads. 

 

So far his actions have reflected his ability to choose to ban or unban.  This is the perfect recipe for making arbitrary choices.  And this arbitrariness is not limited by any agreement or disagreement by others.  He may not give a f..k about what others think of his arbitrary decisions.  He does not have to respond to others on twitter, period!

 

You must be aware that President Biden can also choose to ban or unban, order this or that,  do or undo.  And you are so quick to criticize him for his actions.  Yet he cannot be as arbitrary as Musk.  He must respond to hundreds of people in his administration, party, and millions of individuals in his country.  This responsibility is an added pressure to his decision making, and compels him TO BE RIGHT.

 

Yet you would fall dead rather than admit that he is RIGTH in something.  Yet you are so impressed by the righteousness of this very smart but also irresponsible Musk,  to a point that it appears that you enjoy kissing his ass.

[7heaven]

1 hour ago, Steve5380 said:

 

So far his actions have reflected his ability to choose to ban or unban.  This is the perfect recipe for making arbitrary choices.  And this arbitrariness is not limited by any agreement or disagreement by others.  He may not give a f..k about what others think of his arbitrary decisions.  He does not have to respond to others on twitter, period!

 

You must be aware that President Biden can also choose to ban or unban, order this or that,  do or undo.  And you are so quick to criticize him for his actions.  Yet he cannot be as arbitrary as Musk.  He must respond to hundreds of people in his administration, party, and millions of individuals in his country.  This responsibility is an added pressure to his decision making, and compels him TO BE RIGHT.

 

Yet you would fall dead rather than admit that he is RIGTH in something.  Yet you are so impressed by the righteousness of this very smart but also irresponsible Musk,  to a point that it appears that you enjoy kissing his ass.

Musk ban or unban twitter accounts based on whether the accounts have shown to be incite violence or possess child pornography etc. It may appear arbitrary to outsiders and especially his detractors like the activists and media organisations but it is not. 
 

If Musk does not respond to people on Twitter, there may be people who will call him out for ignoring the users who pay $8 for the blue tick and thus lack of customer service etc. 

 

As for President Biden of the US, he is governing a country not a private company, and naturally the bar for competency and scrutiny is much higher. As a president, he is accountable to the millions of legal residents in US who have voted for him and also those who didn’t, and abide by the constitutional laws and other laws governing the powers of the Presidency. Biden chose to be president and he has to take the heat for his policies failures. Nobody forced him to be the President. He can always resign anytime he wishes to since the US is a free country. 
 

I am impressed by Musk because he is doing the right things and correcting the wrongs of the previous Twitter management and defeating all the woke activists and media organisations despite their best efforts to sabotage him. 

Edited December 5, 2022 by 7heaven
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[singalion]

10 hours ago, 7heaven said:

Glad you confirm Washington Post does not represent Apple. 
 

That said, there is no manipulation because it was indeed Musk who went to approach Apple management to confirm that Apple will not de-platform Twitter, contrary to what activists and their media organisations buddies are pressuring Apple to do. 

 

The fact remains that with Musk's tweet he was first to allege Apple having banned Twitter from Apple Pay, which was untrue.

 

As a responsible businessman with ethics, instead of blindly and unknowingly publishing a false allegation, he was due to check first with Apple.

 

[singalion]

10 hours ago, 7heaven said:

Glad you confirm Washington Post does not represent Apple. 
 

That said, there is no manipulation because it was indeed Musk who went to approach Apple management to confirm that Apple will not de-platform Twitter, contrary to what activists and their media organisations buddies are pressuring Apple to do. 

 

Your second point is also wrong:

 

There might be some activists which I don't doubt on that have their own ideas or even agenda but since when do big corporations implement without any due review what such activists suggest.

 

Nobody chained himself / herself/ itself onto the Roy Lichtenstein painting at the lobby of the Apple HQ to pressurise Apple to do something in lack of a polluting chimney where these activists could have hung themselves onto.

 

Everybody is entitled to their opinion and words expressed do not mean that someone is forced to implement anything.

 

You totally get things wrong here and are completely exaggerating once again.

 

Apple is sufficiently self reliant to take their own decisions.

 

 

It is a bad sign for Musk that he fell trap to some idiots tweeting nonsense on his platform and without any due check he posted himself these "rumours" as if they were any inch true.