Elon Musk and Twitter

[7heaven]

1 hour ago, singalion said:

 

👍

 

I am fully aware of that.

 

He might also suffer from a narcissistic character.

 

However, my action goes to those BW readers who don't have the proper insights on what is going on.

 

7heaven always attempts to mislead others here to believe into his alternative fakes, that are not true by the real facts.

 

Also, I take the pain to expose him at every front, where he simply posts "claims" and alleges points without offering any substantiation or evidential facts.

 

It is better to warn innocent BW readers on 7heaven's truth distortions instead of leaving them here unchallenged.

 

Further, what I intend is to expose 7heaven's blatant lies at BW.

 

As there are also new Members around, such measures shall also serve to discredit 7heaven's posts and name these what they are: truth distortions and manipulation attempts in misleading the BW readers to believe into his falsities and lies.

 

Don't permit the platform BW to be run by liars and manipulators.

 

Readers can judge for themselves who is posting falsities and lies and pandering manufactured facts. 
 

Anyone who keeps calling out others for posting falsities and lies and calling others liars and manipulators should be viewed with great suspicions because ironically that person could be exactly what he or she is accusing others of. Lol. 

[singalion]

3 hours ago, 7heaven said:

Readers can judge for themselves who is posting falsities and lies and pandering manufactured facts. 
 

Anyone who keeps calling out others for posting falsities and lies and calling others liars and manipulators should be viewed with great suspicions because ironically that person could be exactly what he or she is accusing others of. Lol. 

 

BW readers are fully aware who at BW is posting such falsities

 

Did you get support from one single member at bw or any member that confirmed anything from your posts?

 

Never!

Edited December 6, 2022 by singalion

[singalion]

3 hours ago, 7heaven said:

It is not wishful thinking because Musk has brought confidence back and businesses are returning to Twitter for advertising. He is defeating all these activists and media organisations big time. 

 

Any single piece of substantiation lacking!

 

 

[singalion]

3 hours ago, 7heaven said:

What are the relevant details the tech checkers can verify from? Lol. 
 

Trusting Twitter now gives people assurance that there won’t be extremists like antifa fanning and inciting violence on Twitter. 

 

It contradicts your narrative... ...

 

But those tech checkers have the data to rebut your false claims

 

So far , there is no one who supports your claim that twitter has won back accounts.

 

Also yourself you are lacking any evidence on that fact!

 

 

[singalion]

3 hours ago, 7heaven said:

Readers can judge for themselves who is posting falsities and lies and pandering manufactured facts. 
 

Anyone who keeps calling out others for posting falsities and lies and calling others liars and manipulators should be viewed with great suspicions because ironically that person could be exactly what he or she is accusing others of. Lol. 

 

As if BW readers are not aware that it is no other than you 7heaven. haha

[7heaven]

22 minutes ago, singalion said:

 

BW readers are fully aware who at BW is posting such falsities

 

Did you get support from one single member at bw or any member that confirmed anything from your posts?

 

Never!

This is not a popularity contest. Lol. 
 

Readers will note that Musk is doing very well in pushing back against the activists and media organisations who are desperately trying to undermine him and Twitter. 

[7heaven]

22 minutes ago, singalion said:

 

Any single piece of substantiation lacking!

 

 

The substantiation has always been there. You just need to step out of your imagined world. 

[7heaven]

20 minutes ago, singalion said:

 

It contradicts your narrative... ...

 

But those tech checkers have the data to rebut your false claims

 

So far , there is no one who supports your claim that twitter has won back accounts.

 

Also yourself you are lacking any evidence on that fact!

 

 

Do the tech checkers have access to internal information of Twitter? Lol. 

[7heaven]

20 minutes ago, singalion said:

 

As if BW readers are not aware that it is no other than you 7heaven. haha

Readers will note those who keep declaring others are posting facilities and lies and calling other liars may ironically be the ones doing what they are accusing others of. 
 

Let readers decide for themselves. They know.

[7heaven]

Elon Musk has been nominated Time Person of 2022 the second year consecutively he has been nominated. 
 

This is despite all the manufactured “negative” stuff written about him after he bought Twitter. Looks like he is being recognised for all the hard work he has put in for the good of the world and humanity. 
 

The activists and representatives of media organisations did not even make the nomination list, but yet Musk did! 

 

The world needs more of people like Musk and not those whining activists and their media organisations pandering their cancel culture. 

Here’s who is on Time’s 2022 Person of the Year shortlist

The magazine has awarded the honorary title since 1927, last year giving the distinction to billionaire Elon Musk. 

Here are the candidates for Time’s 2022 Person of the Year.

Elon Musk

Musk is nominated once again, with a chance to win the title for the second year in a row.

Last year, Time cited the Tesla and SpaceX CEO’s contributions toward “creating solutions to an existential crisis” and for “embodying the possibilities and perils of the age of tech titans.”

 

[singalion]

6 hours ago, 7heaven said:

The substantiation has always been there. You just need to step out of your imagined world. 

 

Then, why do you fail to present the substantiation for the 10th time, you were asked for it. 

 

Why pretending there was substantiation, when none was there?

 

Need me to pull all posts demonstrating that there was never any substantiation?

 

 

[singalion]

2 hours ago, 7heaven said:

Elon Musk has been nominated Time Person of 2022 the second year consecutively he has been nominated. 
 

This is despite all the manufactured “negative” stuff written about him after he bought Twitter. Looks like he is being recognised for all the hard work he has put in for the good of the world and humanity. 
 

The activists and representatives of media organisations did not even make the nomination list, but yet Musk did! 

 

The world needs more of people like Musk and not those whining activists and their media organisations pandering their cancel culture. 

Here’s who is on Time’s 2022 Person of the Year shortlist

The magazine has awarded the honorary title since 1927, last year giving the distinction to billionaire Elon Musk. 

Here are the candidates for Time’s 2022 Person of the Year.

Elon Musk

Musk is nominated once again, with a chance to win the title for the second year in a row.

Last year, Time cited the Tesla and SpaceX CEO’s contributions toward “creating solutions to an existential crisis” and for “embodying the possibilities and perils of the age of tech titans.”

 

 

After Trump failed you when Trump's dishonesty, severe character flaws and unsuitability as president was exposed, you need another idol, 7heaven?

 

Hopefully, it won't end in another meltdown to you...

 

 

[singalion]

6 hours ago, 7heaven said:

Readers will note those who keep declaring others are posting facilities and lies and calling other liars may ironically be the ones doing what they are accusing others of. 
 

Let readers decide for themselves. They know.

 

Substantiation lacking once again!

 

 

 

 

[singalion]

This was the headline 10 days after Musk announced the internal marketing data... :

 

 

 

Twitter Down More Than a Million Users Since Elon Musk Took Over, MIT Report Says

Elliot Nash, 14 Nov 2022

 

 

But it’s not just advertisers fleeing Twitter. After analysing more than 3.1 million accounts and their daily activity, Bot Sentinel “believes that around 877,000 accounts were deactivated and a further 497,000 were suspended between October 27 and November 1.” And here’s the kicker. It’s more than double the average number.

Calculated by looking at the proportion of deactivated and suspended users they analysed and then applying that percentage to Twitter’s approximately 237 million “monetisable daily active users”, they found a 208 per cent increase in account losses following Musk’s purchase. Believing the deactivations result from those “upset” with Elon Musk’s decision to purchase Twitter, Christopher Bouzy, Bot Sentinel’s founder, points to anecdotal evidence of users jumping ship.  It even forced author Stephen King off the platform.

 

“I believe if users continue to deactivate their accounts en masse, it will become a significant problem for the platform,” said Bouzy.

However, that’s not to say Twitter was any more successful before Musk’s takeover. Since becoming a publicly traded company in 2013, Twitter has only made a profit twice, in 2018 and 2019. And although they made USD$5 billion in revenue in 2021, most of it came from advertisers, which is becoming a sticking point for the company.

 

But even with the proposed subscription fee, it would mean only $17 million a year in extra revenue for Twitter, which is chump change compared to what Musk paid to purchase Twitter, and hardly a means to make a profit. And that’s without mentioning the massive layoffs since his takeover. Musk has also floated the idea of charging users to view videos on Twitter and even posted a poll asking users whether he should bring back Vine. The answer was an overwhelming yes, with 69.6 per cent (nice) of voters excited about the revival of the once cult-like social short-form video app.

 

But if claims that the company is losing over USD$4 million daily, this could be the end of Twitter, regardless of how much money the world’s richest man invests. 

 

 

 

 

But sure 7heaven, you can follow the marketing slides of Musk... 

 

 

 

[singalion]

25 Nov:

 

Twitter Users, Sensing the End of an Era

 

2 Dec:

 

Twitter Keeps Missing Its Advertising Targets as Woes Mount

Under Elon Musk, the company has cut its financial expectations as some advertisers request discounts and are offered incentives.

 

Twitter had 3,980 advertisers in May, the month after Mr. Musk agreed to buy the company, according to MediaRadar, an advertising intelligence company. By October, it had 2,315 advertisers, the fewest of any month until that point.

 

 

 

Oh yes, forgot the "tech checkers and professionals" all don't have access to internal data.... 🤣

 

 

Edited December 6, 2022 by singalion

[7heaven]

3 hours ago, singalion said:

 

Then, why do you fail to present the substantiation for the 10th time, you were asked for it. 

 

Why pretending there was substantiation, when none was there?

 

Need me to pull all posts demonstrating that there was never any substantiation?

 

 

The substantiation has been there. Asking 10 or 200 times doesn’t mean the substantiation is not there. 

[7heaven]

3 hours ago, singalion said:

 

After Trump failed you when Trump's dishonesty, severe character flaws and unsuitability as president was exposed, you need another idol, 7heaven?

 

Hopefully, it won't end in another meltdown to you...

 

 

What has somebody else got to do with Elon Musk being nominated to be Time person of the year for 2022? This is after he was named Person of Year by Time in 2021? 
 

No activists or representatives from media organisations were even nominated this year. This shows that Musk is doing all the right things that got him nominated. 

[7heaven]

3 hours ago, singalion said:

 

Substantiation lacking once again!

 

 

 

 

Let readers decide who post falsities and lies instead of huffing and puffing to demand readers to believe what you say. 

[7heaven]

2 hours ago, singalion said:

25 Nov:

 

Twitter Users, Sensing the End of an Era

 

2 Dec:

 

Twitter Keeps Missing Its Advertising Targets as Woes Mount

Under Elon Musk, the company has cut its financial expectations as some advertisers request discounts and are offered incentives.

 

Twitter had 3,980 advertisers in May, the month after Mr. Musk agreed to buy the company, according to MediaRadar, an advertising intelligence company. By October, it had 2,315 advertisers, the fewest of any month until that point.

 

 

 

Oh yes, forgot the "tech checkers and professionals" all don't have access to internal data.... 🤣

 

 

Besides reading beyond the first line, do read and understand what you post. 
 

The number of new user signups are at all time high dated 16 November 2022 based on internal data from Musk. As it is all time high, it means it is even higher than when twitter was under previous management.
 

We wonder if any media organisations has reported about this? Do tech checkers have access to such data? 
 

 

[singalion]

Twitter Users, Sensing the End of an Era

 

In the chaos that followed Elon Musk’s takeover of Twitter, one user, thinking the platform might not be around much longer revealed a secret from her college days.

 

Twitter is going anywhere, users who feared Twitter might be in its final days.

 

Some seemed to be mocking the platform’s troubles, while others posted like mourners at a wake, fearing a real Armageddon for a place where they have built networks, spread and read information and, sometimes, fallen in love.

 

 

 

[7heaven]

It is useful to look back at old and outdated articles published to characterise how Musk buy over of Twitter will lead Twitter to an end, are now being embarrassed as Musk has quickly turned around Twitter and make it even more popular than it used to be under previous Twitter management. 
 

We wonder if the writers of these articles are ironically still using Twitter. Lol. 

 

——————

Twitter users, sensing the end of an era, confess their secrets

Users disclosed long-ago indiscretions, made pleas for money and revealed silly quirks as they feared the social platform’s days might be numbered.

By Emma Bubola

 

Published: Tue 15 Nov 2022, 10:22 PM

Last updated: Mon 5 Dec 2022, 10:08 PM

 

In the chaos that followed Elon Musk’s takeover of Twitter, one user, thinking the platform might not be around much longer, revealed a secret from her college days. Another made a last-minute plea to crowdfund her medical bills. Another admitted she bit into whole Kit Kat bars without breaking them apart first.

[singalion]

1 hour ago, 7heaven said:

We wonder if the writers of these articles are ironically still using Twitter. Lol. 

 

No, they are the 1.5 million users that left the platform in the past month.

[singalion]

3 hours ago, 7heaven said:

all time high dated 16 November 2022 based on internal data from Musk

 

You think market actors bother about internal data put up by Twitter themselves.

 

Musk can put up what he wants, since the company is no longer stock listed, there is nobody Twitter and Musk can challenge and twitter / Musk has no duty to offer any accurate numbers!

 

Substantiation:

Twitter’s board accepted billionaire Elon Musk’s offer to buy the social media company and take it private, the company confirmed.

 

 

Edited December 7, 2022 by singalion

[singalion]

3 hours ago, 7heaven said:

Do tech checkers have access to such data? 
 

 

The article I posted was from 2 Dec, which is after the hyping tweet from Musk.

 

The data showed a sharp decline in users and extreme loss of ad revenue to Twitter.

 

 

[7heaven]

1 hour ago, singalion said:

 

No, they are the 1.5 million users that left the platform in the past month.

And there are average 2 million new users sign-up per day in the past month.  That makes 30 million new users significantly dwarfing the 1.5million who left. 
 

Nett, there are additional 28.5million users in the past month. Great job by Musk. No wonder he is nominated by Time to be person of the year 2022. 

[singalion]

1 minute ago, 7heaven said:

And there are average 2 million new users sign-up per day in the past month.  That makes 30 million new users significantly dwarfing the 1.5million who left. 
 

Nett, there are additional 28.5million users in the past month. Great job by Musk. No wonder he is nominated by Time to be person of the year 2022. 

 

Substantiation lacking.

 

No reliable evidence supports your numbers here.

 

 

[singalion]

13 hours ago, 7heaven said:

The substantiation has always been there. You just need to step out of your imagined world. 

 

4 hours ago, 7heaven said:

The substantiation has been there. Asking 10 or 200 times doesn’t mean the substantiation is not there. 

 

 

Let us place 7heaven under some scrutiny and see whether he ever substantiated his point!

 

 

On 12/6/2022 at 1:33 AM, 7heaven said:

Yes, the sharp decline was because the activists pressured businesses to stop advertising on Twitter. However, businesses are coming back to Twitter after seeing how tirelessly Musk is working to build up the trust of Twitter such as but not limited to suspending accounts belonging to extremists like Antifa etc. 

 

This is 7heaven's starting point!

 

7heaven claims that "businesses are coming back to Twitter".

 

Now lets take a look whether he ever substantiated that point or left it as a mere claim:

 

On 12/6/2022 at 1:38 AM, singalion said:

Thats not true. You are running again into creating your own reality that does not match with facts. 

 

 

On 12/6/2022 at 1:43 AM, 7heaven said:

It is factual that businesses are slowly return to Twitter because Musk has shown himself to be reinventing Twitter to be a better social media platform. And musk is doing it so well with fewer staff. 

 

Here just a repetition of 7heaven's claim but no substantiation offered.

Without any substantiation, surely it is not factual. It is just a repetition of his claim.

 

On 12/6/2022 at 1:47 AM, singalion said:

You are simply repeating your earlier claim without providing any substantiation at all!

Claim is not a fact!!!

 

Next response does not offer any substantiation also, in fact the topic goes wrong.

I was asking for substantiation that "businesses are returning to twitter".  Here:

 

On 12/6/2022 at 1:49 AM, 7heaven said:

It is not claims, if Twitter under Musk is indeed what activists and media organisations claim it will become which is more hate speeches, more misinformation, why would they return to Twitter? 

 

Still no substantiation offered.

 

On 12/6/2022 at 2:09 AM, singalion said:

Hopeful thinking, but not substantiated by any facts. 

Therefore, it is nothing "factual"!

You are entitled to speculate but refrain from claiming this is a fact. 

 

 

Let's check if 7heaven's reply offers any substantiation?

 

On 12/6/2022 at 8:54 AM, 7heaven said:

It is factual that businesses are slowly returning to Twitter after Musk tireless effort over last few weeks. 
We can expect even more businesses returning to twitter once musk stabilised the company further. Musk is turning around a loss-making company. 

 

Again, just claims but no substantiation offered. Post is a repetition of the earlier unbacked claim.

 

On 12/6/2022 at 10:37 AM, singalion said:

You left out the substantiation! Calling something "factual" without presenting any underlying facts is malicious and manipulative. Without substantiation your points are either inventions or unbacked claims. 

Everyone can claim something. 

I can also claim that Musk goes bankrupt in 1 year...

😂

 

 

 

Response by 7heaven (upfront: no substantiation offered)

 

On 12/6/2022 at 12:32 PM, 7heaven said:

You can claim what you want but it would not change the fact that Musk is winning back the trust of businesses who were misguided by pressure from activists and media organisations who tried to sabotage Twitter after Musk took over. 😄

 

Here 7heaven is trying to switch to "winning back trust of business"... probably realising that he has no means to substantiate his earlier claim.

 

Me asking another time for the substantiation by 7heaven of his claim that "twitter is winning back businesses".

 

On 12/6/2022 at 2:51 PM, singalion said:

Claiming things again with no substantiation provided.

Where is your evidence that Musk has been winning back business? As long as you can't provide any evidence to that, it is just a claim or not even that but your personal wishful thinking and hope.

 

 

 

Next response also failed to bring any substantiation:

 

20 hours ago, 7heaven said:

It is not wishful thinking because Musk has brought confidence back and businesses are returning to Twitter for advertising. He is defeating all these activists and media organisations big time. 

 

= winning back business is still just an unproven claim of 7heaven.

 

Pointing to the fact that 7heaven did not offer any substantiation for his claim so far:

 

On 12/6/2022 at 3:03 PM, singalion said:

In all above posts you are simply insanely repeating your fake alternatives and unbacked claims without offering any piece of substantiation.

As long as you can't provide any hard facts and substantiation, then the points are just claims.

 

 

Then, 7heaven goes on to just repeat his claim, but there is still no evidence or supporting facts "for twitter winning back businesses"...

 

20 hours ago, 7heaven said:

Musk is slowly winning back the businesses’ trust and proving the activists and media organisations wrong. With Apple confirming it won’t deplatform Twitter, it gives greater assurance Twitter is here to stay under Musk. 

 

17 hours ago, singalion said:

Any single piece of substantiation lacking!

 

 

 I am pointing again to the fact, that 7heaven failed to present any substantiation for his claim.

 

After that 7heaven resorts to claim that the substantiation has been always there...

But where was it then?

 

17 hours ago, 7heaven said:

The substantiation has always been there. You just need to step out of your imagined world. 

 

If the substantiation was there, then why can't he present it?

 

10 hours ago, singalion said:

Then, why do you fail to present the substantiation for the 10th time, you were asked for it. 

Why pretending there was substantiation, when none was there?

Need me to pull all posts demonstrating that there was never any substantiation?

 

 

Here the reply by 7heaven.... (still no substantiation at all):

 

7 hours ago, 7heaven said:

The substantiation has been there. Asking 10 or 200 times doesn’t mean the substantiation is not there. 

 

This is the usual trait, after failing to post any substantiation, 7heaven will claim, that he already offered substantiation.

 

But every BW reader here can see, that in all of 7heaven's posts, he never brought any numbers or facts to back his

claim "that businesses are now returning to twitter".

 

The truth is 7heaven never ever substantiated his claim at all.

 

 

 

What we see here is, that 7heaven never managed to substantiate his phrase "businesses are coming back to Twitter".

 

=> it is a mere claim and was throughout all times never backed by any facts.

 

 

[7heaven]

3 hours ago, singalion said:

 

Substantiation lacking.

 

No reliable evidence supports your numbers here.

 

 

The substantiation is there and yet you reject it because it contradicts your narrative that Twitter led by Musk has seen an all-time high new user sign-ups to the tune of 2million per day! 
 

 

[7heaven]

1 hour ago, singalion said:

 

 

 

Let us place 7heaven under some scrutiny and see whether he ever substantiated his point!

 

 

 

This is 7heaven's starting point!

 

7heaven claims that "businesses are coming back to Twitter".

 

Now lets take a look whether he ever substantiated that point or left it as a mere claim:

 

 

 

Here just a repetition of 7heaven's claim but no substantiation offered.

Without any substantiation, surely it is not factual. It is just a repetition of his claim.

 

 

Next response does not offer any substantiation also, in fact the topic goes wrong.

I was asking for substantiation that "businesses are returning to twitter".  Here:

 

 

Still no substantiation offered.

 

 

Let's check if 7heaven's reply offers any substantiation?

 

 

Again, just claims but no substantiation offered. Post is a repetition of the earlier unbacked claim.

 

 

Response by 7heaven (upfront: no substantiation offered)

 

 

Here 7heaven is trying to switch to "winning back trust of business"... probably realising that he has no means to substantiate his earlier claim.

 

Me asking another time for the substantiation by 7heaven of his claim that "twitter is winning back businesses".

 

 

Next response also failed to bring any substantiation:

 

 

= winning back business is still just an unproven claim of 7heaven.

 

Pointing to the fact that 7heaven did not offer any substantiation for his claim so far:

 

 

Then, 7heaven goes on to just repeat his claim, but there is still no evidence or supporting facts "for twitter winning back businesses"...

 

 

 

 I am pointing again to the fact, that 7heaven failed to present any substantiation for his claim.

 

After that 7heaven resorts to claim that the substantiation has been always there...

But where was it then?

 

 

If the substantiation was there, then why can't he present it?

 

 

Here the reply by 7heaven.... (still no substantiation at all):

 

 

This is the usual trait, after failing to post any substantiation, 7heaven will claim, that he already offered substantiation.

 

But every BW reader here can see, that in all of 7heaven's posts, he never brought any numbers or facts to back his

claim "that businesses are now returning to twitter".

 

The truth is 7heaven never ever substantiated his claim at all.

 

 

 

What we see here is, that 7heaven never managed to substantiate his phrase "businesses are coming back to Twitter".

 

=> it is a mere claim and was throughout all times never backed by any facts.

 

 

The substantiation is there, but Singalion chooses to ignore it because it will contradict his own points. 

[singalion]

5 minutes ago, 7heaven said:

The substantiation is there and yet you reject it because it contradicts your narrative that Twitter led by Musk has seen an all-time high new user sign-ups to the tune of 2million per day! 
 

 

 

But these slides are from Twitter are not any reliable sources.

 

Twitter can put anything into the numbers.

The slides look more like some marketing act. Just look at the presentation of "new" features.

 

Who can check if the numbers are accurate?

 

I will wait for third parties to confirm or not confirm...

 

This is no real substantiation, 7heaven.

 

 

 

[singalion]

24 minutes ago, 7heaven said:

The substantiation is there, but Singalion chooses to ignore it because it will contradict his own points. 

 

Yes? Where is the substantiation then 7heaven?

 

I choose to ignore your substantiation, because it contradicts my own points?

 

Really? But then where is the substantiation that I choose to ignore?

 

The complete set of posts do not provide for any substantiation that "businesses return to twitter"!

 

I posted all your posts on this, but there is no substantiation at all.

 

Your phrase is just a claim!

You left out the substantiation.

 

Now you even come here despite all the facts posted here to claim that you substantiated your claim, while every BW reader can see for himself/herself, that you never offered any substantiation at all.

 

Here BW readers: read for yourself again. Is there anyone out there who sees that the claims had been substantiated by 7heaven???

 

On 12/6/2022 at 1:33 AM, 7heaven said:

Yes, the sharp decline was because the activists pressured businesses to stop advertising on Twitter. However, businesses are coming back to Twitter after seeing how tirelessly Musk is working to build up the trust of Twitter such as but not limited to suspending accounts belonging to extremists like Antifa etc. 

 

 

This above ⬆️   is 7heaven's starting point!

 

7heaven claims that "businesses are coming back to Twitter".

 

Now lets take a look whether he ever substantiated that point or left it as a mere claim:

 

On 12/6/2022 at 1:38 AM, singalion said:

Thats not true. You are running again into creating your own reality that does not match with facts. 

 

 

Next post, repeating the claim without providing substantiation:

 

On 12/6/2022 at 1:43 AM, 7heaven said:

It is factual that businesses are slowly return to Twitter because Musk has shown himself to be reinventing Twitter to be a better social media platform. And musk is doing it so well with fewer staff. 

 

Here just a repetition of 7heaven's claim but no substantiation offered.

Without any substantiation, surely it is not factual. It is just a repetition of his claim.

 

On 12/6/2022 at 1:47 AM, singalion said:

You are simply repeating your earlier claim without providing any substantiation at all!

Claim is not a fact!!!

 

Next response does not offer any substantiation also, in fact the topic goes wrong.

I was asking for substantiation that "businesses are returning to twitter".  Here:

 

On 12/6/2022 at 1:49 AM, 7heaven said:

It is not claims, if Twitter under Musk is indeed what activists and media organisations claim it will become which is more hate speeches, more misinformation, why would they return to Twitter? 

 

Still no substantiation offered.

 

On 12/6/2022 at 2:09 AM, singalion said:

Hopeful thinking, but not substantiated by any facts. 

Therefore, it is nothing "factual"!

You are entitled to speculate but refrain from claiming this is a fact. 

 

 

Let's check if 7heaven's reply offers any substantiation?

 

On 12/6/2022 at 8:54 AM, 7heaven said:

It is factual that businesses are slowly returning to Twitter after Musk tireless effort over last few weeks. 
We can expect even more businesses returning to twitter once musk stabilised the company further. Musk is turning around a loss-making company. 

 

Again, just claims but no substantiation offered. Post is a repetition of the earlier unbacked claim.

 

On 12/6/2022 at 10:37 AM, singalion said:

You left out the substantiation! Calling something "factual" without presenting any underlying facts is malicious and manipulative. Without substantiation your points are either inventions or unbacked claims. 

Everyone can claim something. 

I can also claim that Musk goes bankrupt in 1 year...

😂

 

 

 

Response by 7heaven (upfront: no substantiation offered)

 

On 12/6/2022 at 12:32 PM, 7heaven said:

You can claim what you want but it would not change the fact that Musk is winning back the trust of businesses who were misguided by pressure from activists and media organisations who tried to sabotage Twitter after Musk took over. 😄

 

Here 7heaven is trying to switch to "winning back trust of business"... probably realising that he has no means to substantiate his earlier claim.

 

Me asking another time for the substantiation by 7heaven of his claim that "twitter is winning back businesses".

 

On 12/6/2022 at 2:51 PM, singalion said:

Claiming things again with no substantiation provided.

Where is your evidence that Musk has been winning back business? As long as you can't provide any evidence to that, it is just a claim or not even that but your personal wishful thinking and hope.

 

 

 

Next response also failed to bring any substantiation:

 

23 hours ago, 7heaven said:

It is not wishful thinking because Musk has brought confidence back and businesses are returning to Twitter for advertising. He is defeating all these activists and media organisations big time. 

 

= winning back business is still just an unproven claim of 7heaven.

 

Pointing to the fact that 7heaven did not offer any substantiation for his claim so far:

 

On 12/6/2022 at 3:03 PM, singalion said:

In all above posts you are simply insanely repeating your fake alternatives and unbacked claims without offering any piece of substantiation.

As long as you can't provide any hard facts and substantiation, then the points are just claims.

 

 

Then, 7heaven goes on to just repeat his claim, but there is still no evidence or supporting facts "for twitter winning back businesses"...

 

23 hours ago, 7heaven said:

Musk is slowly winning back the businesses’ trust and proving the activists and media organisations wrong. With Apple confirming it won’t deplatform Twitter, it gives greater assurance Twitter is here to stay under Musk. 

 

19 hours ago, singalion said:

Any single piece of substantiation lacking!

 

 

 I am pointing again to the fact, that 7heaven failed to present any substantiation for his claim.

 

After that 7heaven resorts to claim that the substantiation has been always there...

But where was it then?

 

19 hours ago, 7heaven said:

The substantiation has always been there. You just need to step out of your imagined world. 

 

If the substantiation was there, then why can't he present it?

 

13 hours ago, singalion said:

Then, why do you fail to present the substantiation for the 10th time, you were asked for it. 

Why pretending there was substantiation, when none was there?

Need me to pull all posts demonstrating that there was never any substantiation?

 

 

Here the reply by 7heaven.... (still no substantiation at all):

 

9 hours ago, 7heaven said:

The substantiation has been there. Asking 10 or 200 times doesn’t mean the substantiation is not there. 

 

This is the usual trait, after failing to post any substantiation, 7heaven will claim, that he already offered substantiation.

 

But every BW reader here can see, that in all of 7heaven's posts, he never brought any numbers or facts to back his

claim "that businesses are now returning to twitter".

 

 

24 minutes ago, 7heaven said:

The substantiation is there, but Singalion chooses to ignore it because it will contradict his own points. 

 

 

Can you underline your substantiation 7heaven in any of your post on this business returning to twitter claim for everyone to see?

 

Does any BW reader manage to see 7heaven's substantiation of his claim?

 

What we see here is, that 7heaven puts up blatant lies that he  substantiated his phrase "businesses are coming back to Twitter" while in truth, he never provided any evidence.

 

So far there is still no substantiation, 7heaven!

 

=> 7heaven just places a mere unproven claim into the thread and now even resorts to lie for having provided substantiation, when it is obvious for everyone at BW that he is not telling the truth.

 

 

 

 

 

Edited December 7, 2022 by singalion

[Guest Zack]

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[7heaven]

6 hours ago, singalion said:

 

But these slides are from Twitter are not any reliable sources.

 

Twitter can put anything into the numbers.

The slides look more like some marketing act. Just look at the presentation of "new" features.

 

Who can check if the numbers are accurate?

 

I will wait for third parties to confirm or not confirm...

 

This is no real substantiation, 7heaven.

 

 

 

I am not sure who can check Twitter internal data, but it is certain tech checkers are not credible to check data belonging to a private organisation. 
 

Musk has a lot more to lose if he were even to fake data about new users. He is smart enough to be aware that there are plenty of activists and media organisations waiting eagerly for him to make a mistake, and faking user numbers will be the perfect gift to these activists and media organisations to attack him. 

[singalion]

55 minutes ago, 7heaven said:

I am not sure who can check Twitter internal data, but it is certain tech checkers are not credible to check data belonging to a private organisation. 
 

Musk has a lot more to lose if he were even to fake data about new users. He is smart enough to be aware that there are plenty of activists and media organisations waiting eagerly for him to make a mistake, and faking user numbers will be the perfect gift to these activists and media organisations to attack him. 

 

Musk is no angel.... You can glorify him... 

 

Elon Musk Settles SEC Fraud Charges; Tesla Charged With and Resolves Securities Law Charge

 

Settlement Requires Musk to Step Down as Tesla’s Chairman; Tesla to Appoint Additional Independent Directors; Tesla and Musk Agree to Pay $40 Million in Penalties

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
2018-226

Washington D.C., Sept. 29, 2018 —

The Securities and Exchange Commission announced today that Elon Musk, CEO and Chairman of Silicon Valley-based Tesla Inc., has agreed to settle the securities fraud charge brought by the SEC against him last week.  The SEC also today charged Tesla with failing to have required disclosure controls and procedures relating to Musk’s tweets, a charge that Tesla has agreed to settle.  The settlements, which are subject to court approval, will result in comprehensive corporate governance and other reforms at Tesla—including Musk’s removal as Chairman of the Tesla board—and the payment by Musk and Tesla of financial penalties.

 

Elon Musk's Tesla accused of fraud, false advertising of 'autopilot' technology in lawsuit

Tesla and its CEO, Elon Musk, broke several warranty, false advertising, negligence, fraud and deceit laws. 

 

15 Sep 2022

 

Tesla and Musk have repeatedly made deceptive and misleading statements to consumers indicating that a fully self-driving, fully autonomous Tesla vehicle was just around the corner, often expressly stating that would occur by the end of that calendar year or ‘within the next year’,”...

 

 

 

April 18, 2022

Judge rules Musk's tweets over taking Tesla private were false, investors say

 

SAN FRANCISCO, April 16 (Reuters) - A federal judge has ruled that Tesla (TSLA.O) CEO Elon Musk's 2018 tweets about having secured financing to take the company private were false, according to court filings by Tesla investors suing the billionaire over the tweets.

The filing said that the court ruled April 1 that Musk's 2018 tweets were "false and misleading." The court "held that he recklessly made the statements with knowledge as to their falsity," it said.

 

 

=> This guy Musk is very trustworthy!!!

 

[7heaven]

3 minutes ago, singalion said:

 

Musk is no angel.... You can glorify him... 

 

Elon Musk Settles SEC Fraud Charges; Tesla Charged With and Resolves Securities Law Charge

 

Settlement Requires Musk to Step Down as Tesla’s Chairman; Tesla to Appoint Additional Independent Directors; Tesla and Musk Agree to Pay $40 Million in Penalties

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
2018-226

Washington D.C., Sept. 29, 2018 —

The Securities and Exchange Commission announced today that Elon Musk, CEO and Chairman of Silicon Valley-based Tesla Inc., has agreed to settle the securities fraud charge brought by the SEC against him last week.  The SEC also today charged Tesla with failing to have required disclosure controls and procedures relating to Musk’s tweets, a charge that Tesla has agreed to settle.  The settlements, which are subject to court approval, will result in comprehensive corporate governance and other reforms at Tesla—including Musk’s removal as Chairman of the Tesla board—and the payment by Musk and Tesla of financial penalties.

 

Elon Musk's Tesla accused of fraud, false advertising of 'autopilot' technology in lawsuit

Tesla and its CEO, Elon Musk, broke several warranty, false advertising, negligence, fraud and deceit laws. 

 

15 Sep 2022

 

Tesla and Musk have repeatedly made deceptive and misleading statements to consumers indicating that a fully self-driving, fully autonomous Tesla vehicle was just around the corner, often expressly stating that would occur by the end of that calendar year or ‘within the next year’,”...

 

 

 

April 18, 2022

Judge rules Musk's tweets over taking Tesla private were false, investors say

 

SAN FRANCISCO, April 16 (Reuters) - A federal judge has ruled that Tesla (TSLA.O) CEO Elon Musk's 2018 tweets about having secured financing to take the company private were false, according to court filings by Tesla investors suing the billionaire over the tweets.

The filing said that the court ruled April 1 that Musk's 2018 tweets were "false and misleading." The court "held that he recklessly made the statements with knowledge as to their falsity," it said.

 

 

=> This guy Musk is very trustworthy!!!

 

 

Elon Musk was the Time person of the year 2021, and was nominated again in 2022. How many people in the world has that distinction? 

[singalion]

8 hours ago, 7heaven said:

 

Elon Musk was the Time person of the year 2021, and was nominated again in 2022. How many people in the world has that distinction? 

 

This really makes the difference...

 

One day you write that are "opinions of media employees", next day "activist media organisations" but then you turn your flag yourself... just as it suits you. 

That's what people call inconsistent, non persuasive. 

 

The fact for being nominated doesn't whitewash Musk. 

 

 

[singalion]

8 hours ago, 7heaven said:

 

Elon Musk was the Time person of the year 2021, and was nominated again in 2022. How many people in the world has that distinction? 

 

but he didn't get it! lol

 

Volodymyr Zelensky is Time Magazine's 2022 Person of the Year

 

 

 

[singalion]

8 hours ago, 7heaven said:

 

Elon Musk was the Time person of the year 2021, and was nominated again in 2022.  

 

Previous winners over the past decade:

 

 

• 2020 - Joe Biden and Kamala Harris
• 2019 - Greta Thunberg
• 2018 - "The Guardians", a group of journalists including Jamal Khashoggi
• 2017 - "The silence breakers", the women who started the #MeToo movement

 

 

[singalion]

 

Time was heavily critisised for having selected Musk, the nomination was the most controversial!

 

Musk was nominated for Tesla and not twitter!

 

 

Quote:

Last year, Time cited the Tesla and SpaceX CEO’s contributions toward “creating solutions to an existential crisis” and for “embodying the possibilities and perils of the age of tech titans.”

The magazine faced criticism for selecting Musk, the world’s richest man, as the 2021 Person of the Year, a move that came the same year ProPublica reported the billionaire paid nothing or very little in income taxes in the past.

 

Like Trump he is one of the rich who pays peanuts on tax. 

 

 

[singalion]

 

 

Time Magazine is facing criticism for naming Tesla and SpaceX CEO Elon Musk its “Person of the Year” for 2021, with some lawmakers pointing out how much the billionaire has paid in taxes in relation to his overall wealth.

In a fundraising email on Monday, Rep. Pramila Jayapal’s (D-Wash.) team said, “We can’t believe Time Magazine just named Elon Musk its ‘Person of the Year,’” adding that the chief executive is “the richest person in the world and yet he avoids paying his taxes while working families struggle to put food on the table and pay rent.”

ProPublica released a report in June on the amount in taxes the richest Americans have paid, including Musk. According to the report, the billionaire paid $68,000 in federal income taxes in 2015, $65,000 in 2017 and no federal income taxes in 2018.

 

“A billionaire who has been found guilty of illegal union-busting [National Labor Relations Board] should probably not be @TIME’s Person of the Year.”

 

The board also said Musk illegally threatened workers of the company in a May 2018 tweet. The message read “why pay union dues & give up stock options for nothing?” according to the Times. He was ordered to delete the tweet by the board.

Brown, in a separate tweet, said “Instead of worshipping executives who routinely line their own pockets at everyone else’s expense, let’s honor the workers who create wealth for their companies.”

 

 

 

 

 

 

😉

Edited December 8, 2022 by singalion

[7heaven]

10 minutes ago, singalion said:

 

This really makes the difference...

 

One day you write that are "opinions of media employees", next day "activist media organisations" but then you turn your flag yourself... just as it suits you. 

That's what people call inconsistent, non persuasive. 

 

The fact for being nominated doesn't whitewash Musk. 

 

 

You kept posting multiple articles from media organisations criticising Musk after I have questioned repeatedly if opinions of media organisations can be trusted. 
 

So for Musk to be nominated Time person of the year in consecutive years in 2021 and 2022 and winning it in 2021 shows that it was an extremely high threshold for Musk to across despite having so many articles criticising him. I don’t think the media organisations have 1% that many articles criticising Joe Biden and Kamala Harris or Greta Thunberg, the winners in 2020 and 2019. 

[7heaven]

7 minutes ago, singalion said:

 

Time was heavily critisised for having selected Musk, the nomination was the most controversial!

 

Musk was nominated for Tesla and not twitter!

 

 

Quote:

Last year, Time cited the Tesla and SpaceX CEO’s contributions toward “creating solutions to an existential crisis” and for “embodying the possibilities and perils of the age of tech titans.”

The magazine faced criticism for selecting Musk, the world’s richest man, as the 2021 Person of the Year, a move that came the same year ProPublica reported the billionaire paid nothing or very little in income taxes in the past.

 

Like Trump he is one of the rich who pays peanuts on tax. 

 

 

Lol. Musk is still the same person whether he owns Tesla or Twitter. 
 

Who were the people criticising Time for nominating Musk? Should we trust them? Are they the same activists and media organisations who are criticising Musk for buying Twitter? 

[singalion]

7 minutes ago, 7heaven said:

You kept posting multiple articles from media organisations criticising Musk after I have questioned repeatedly if opinions of media organisations can be trusted. 
 

So for Musk to be nominated Time person of the year in consecutive years in 2021 and 2022 and winning it in 2021. I don’t think the media organisations have 1% that many articles criticising Joe Biden and Kamala Harris or Greta Thunberg, the winners in 2020 and 2019. 

 

Once again repeating the same content...

 

You always need to repeat your claims to make yourself believe in your own claims...

 

No you come and tell media bias. 

 

This is inconsistent. 

 

If you think the Time Magazine is biased, then how come you base your argument on a such critical media organisation?

 

This is not persuasive.

 

You just commit an own goal!

 

Edited December 8, 2022 by singalion

[7heaven]

7 minutes ago, singalion said:

 

 

Time Magazine is facing criticism for naming Tesla and SpaceX CEO Elon Musk its “Person of the Year” for 2021, with some lawmakers pointing out how much the billionaire has paid in taxes in relation to his overall wealth.

In a fundraising email on Monday, Rep. Pramila Jayapal’s (D-Wash.) team said, “We can’t believe Time Magazine just named Elon Musk its ‘Person of the Year,’” adding that the chief executive is “the richest person in the world and yet he avoids paying his taxes while working families struggle to put food on the table and pay rent.”

ProPublica released a report in June on the amount in taxes the richest Americans have paid, including Musk. According to the report, the billionaire paid $68,000 in federal income taxes in 2015, $65,000 in 2017 and no federal income taxes in 2018.

 

“A billionaire who has been found guilty of illegal union-busting [National Labor Relations Board] should probably not be @TIME’s Person of the Year.”

 

The board also said Musk illegally threatened workers of the company in a May 2018 tweet. The message read “why pay union dues & give up stock options for nothing?” according to the Times. He was ordered to delete the tweet by the board.

Brown, in a separate tweet, said “Instead of worshipping executives who routinely line their own pockets at everyone else’s expense, let’s honor the workers who create wealth for their companies.”

 

 

 

 

 

 

😉

Rep Jayapal is a Democrat and left wing. It is not surprising she will criticise Musk because Musk has publicly stated he is no longer supporting Democrats and woke left wing agenda and is refusing to abide by demands from left wing extremists to censor conservative views in Twitter.
 

So Jayapal criticism of Musk is par for the course. What will be surprising if she criticises Bill Gates, Soros, Sam Bankman-Fried who are big donors to Democrats. Lol. 
 

 

[7heaven]

48 minutes ago, singalion said:

 

Once again repeating the same content...

 

You always need to repeat your claims to make yourself believe in your own claims...

 

No you come and tell media bias. 

 

This is inconsistent. 

 

If you think the Time Magazine is biased, then how come you base your argument on a such critical media organisation?

 

This is not persuasive.

 

You just commit an own goal!

 

There is nowhere did i say or think Time Magazine is biased. You should show substantiation that I had said or thought about that. 

Edited December 8, 2022 by 7heaven
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[singalion]

50 minutes ago, 7heaven said:

Rep Jayapal is a Democrat and left wing. It is not surprising she will criticise Musk because Musk has publicly stated he is no longer supporting Democrats and woke left wing agenda and is refusing to abide by demands from left wing extremists to censor conservative views in Twitter.
 

So Jayapal criticism of Musk is par for the course. What will be surprising if she criticises Bill Gates, Soros, Sam Bankman-Fried who are big donors to Democrats. Lol. 
 

 

 

Conspiracy theory spinning... 

 

Just shows how deeply indulged you are in that Oath speaker, Qanon crap.  

 

 

[singalion]

51 minutes ago, 7heaven said:

There is nowhere did i say or think Time Magazine is biased. You should show substantiation that I had said or thought about that. 

 

Another of your blatant lies?

 

Need me to pull your earlier posts on media organisations???

 

 

[7heaven]

49 minutes ago, singalion said:

 

Conspiracy theory spinning... 

 

Just shows how deeply indulged you are in that Oath speaker, Qanon crap.  

 

 

Lol. There is no conspiracy theory when Rep Jayapal a Democrat criticised Musk after Musk publicly stated he won’t support Democrats. So her criticism of Musk is partisan and rings hallow. 

[7heaven]

50 minutes ago, singalion said:

 

Another of your blatant lies?

 

Need me to pull your earlier posts on media organisations???

 

 

There is nowhere did i say or think Time Magazine is biased. You should show substantiation that I had said or thought about that. 
 

Don’t change it to “media organisations “ because you had claimed that I had specifically thought Time Magazine is biased. 

 

1 hour ago, singalion said:

If you think the Time Magazine is biased, then how come you base your argument on a such critical media organisation?

 

[singalion]

7 hours ago, 7heaven said:

There is nowhere did i say or think Time Magazine is biased. You should show substantiation that I had said or thought about that. 
 

Don’t change it to “media organisations “ because you had claimed that I had specifically thought Time Magazine is biased. 

 

 

 

I assume any posts include those under your earlier Guest Monikers "Logical" and "Mississippi Paddlefish".

 

 

Edited December 8, 2022 by singalion