City Harvest Church Discussion - Kong Hee & Sun Ho (Compiled)

[Ener]

21 hours ago, Guest Jackie said:

Do you gays still go to church even if you have no intention of stopping your sinful way of life?

Everyone is sinful one way or another. Don't mix religion with sexual orientation. It's complicated. Infact dun mix religion into everything.  

[Steve5380]

22 hours ago, Guest Jackie said:

Do you gays still go to church even if you have no intention of stopping your sinful way of life?

 

Of course gays go to church.  

There are increasing number of churches who recognize reality and move away from the falsity of calling homosexuality a "sinful way of life".

You are probably still living in the past, with all its ignorance.

I wish you find the truth some day

[Guest Shumit]

On 21/08/2016 at 10:21 AM, Guest Jackie said:

Do you gays still go to church even if you have no intention of stopping your sinful way of life?

 

Wut! Of course most of us do

[musctop]

On 8/21/2016 at 10:21 AM, Guest Jackie said:

Do you gays still go to church even if you have no intention of stopping your sinful way of life?

 

Dear jackie,

 

Do you eat prawns or abalone or crab? You have sinned and will be casted to hell. Enjoy yourself in hell.

 

Leviticus 11:9-12 says: 
⁹ These shall ye eat of all that are in the waters: whatsoever hath fins and scales in the waters, in the seas, and in the rivers, them shall ye eat. 
¹⁰ And all that have not fins and scales in the seas, and in the rivers, of all that move in the waters, and of any living thing which is in the waters, they shall be an abomination unto you: 
¹¹ They shall be even an abomination unto you; ye shall not eat of their flesh, but ye shall have their carcases in abomination. 
¹² Whatsoever hath no fins nor scales in the waters, that shall be an abomination unto you.

Edited August 23, 2016 by musctop

[Guest Cutie]

55 minutes ago, musctop said:

 

Dear jackie,

 

Do you eat prawns or abalone or crab? You have sinned and will be casted to hell. Enjoy yourself in hell.

 

Leviticus 11:9-12 says: 
⁹ These shall ye eat of all that are in the waters: whatsoever hath fins and scales in the waters, in the seas, and in the rivers, them shall ye eat. 
¹⁰ And all that have not fins and scales in the seas, and in the rivers, of all that move in the waters, and of any living thing which is in the waters, they shall be an abomination unto you: 
¹¹ They shall be even an abomination unto you; ye shall not eat of their flesh, but ye shall have their carcases in abomination. 
¹² Whatsoever hath no fins nor scales in the waters, that shall be an abomination unto you.

That Leviticus code alone, has casted every christian on this planet into HeXX!  Which is why Jesus has came to save them, including the gay. So that we all can continue to live the life as it is, with no fear of any repercussion.  But some fundamentlist, are still living in the old.

[nixorn]

No more delays, right? Then can countdown to 19 Sep, next mon....

 

Old article dated march 2016.

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City Harvest Church appeal: Case to be heard in September

 

By Vanessa Paige Chelvan

Posted 04 Mar 2016 12:03

 

SINGAPORE: The appeals of six City Harvest Church (CHC) leaders sentenced to jail for misappropriating S$50 million of church funds will be heard over five days, from Sep 19 to Sep 23 this year.

 

Both the prosecution, which called the sentences "manifestly inadequate", and thesix convicted filed their appeals last year. 

 

The six were convicted on Oct 21 last year, and sentenced on Nov 20 to between 21 months and eight years' jail, over charges of criminal breach of trust and falsification of accounts.

 

Senior pastor Kong Hee, the founder of the church, was sentenced to eight years' imprisonment for criminal breach of trust, while former board member Chew Eng Han was given a sentence of six years and senior pastor Tan Ye Peng, five years and six months.

 

Serina Wee, former finance manager for the church, was handed a five-year jail term, while John Lam, the former secretary of the church's management board, was sentenced to three years' jail. Former finance manager Sharon Tan received the lightest sentence of 21 months' jail.  

 

The five-day hearing will be presided over by Justices Chao Hick Tin, Chan Seng Oon and Woo Bih Li. 

- CNA/kk

 

[Guest CHC]

 

[Guest Guest]

14 hours ago, nixorn said:

No more delays, right? Then can countdown to 19 Sep, next mon....

 

Old article dated march 2016.

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City Harvest Church appeal: Case to be heard in September

 

By Vanessa Paige Chelvan

Posted 04 Mar 2016 12:03

 

SINGAPORE: The appeals of six City Harvest Church (CHC) leaders sentenced to jail for misappropriating S$50 million of church funds will be heard over five days, from Sep 19 to Sep 23 this year.

 

Both the prosecution, which called the sentences "manifestly inadequate", and thesix convicted filed their appeals last year. 

 

The six were convicted on Oct 21 last year, and sentenced on Nov 20 to between 21 months and eight years' jail, over charges of criminal breach of trust and falsification of accounts.

 

Senior pastor Kong Hee, the founder of the church, was sentenced to eight years' imprisonment for criminal breach of trust, while former board member Chew Eng Han was given a sentence of six years and senior pastor Tan Ye Peng, five years and six months.

 

Serina Wee, former finance manager for the church, was handed a five-year jail term, while John Lam, the former secretary of the church's management board, was sentenced to three years' jail. Former finance manager Sharon Tan received the lightest sentence of 21 months' jail.  

 

The five-day hearing will be presided over by Justices Chao Hick Tin, Chan Seng Oon and Woo Bih Li. 

- CNA/kk

 

 

Prosecutors in Singapore were only asking for 10 years imprisonment for YangYin's case. 

And these guys are only getting a maximun of 8 years jail term.

It seems to be a really worthwhile professional deal to be a white collar criminal here in Singapore now. 

[Guest Pray for them]

Lets join our hands and Pray for them to be FREE

 

 

Kong Hee and City Harvest leaders in court on Thursday to appeal against sentences and convictions

Clockwise from top left: Kong Hee, Tan Ye Peng, Serina Wee, John Lam, Chew Eng Han, Sharon Tan.PHOTOS: ST FILE

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SINGAPORE - Six City Harvest Church (CHC) leaders at the centre of a multi-million dollar financial scandal will return to face the courts on Thursday (Sept 15).

 

The marathon City Harvest trial begins again in the High Court, with both the defence and prosecution appealing.

 

The appeal will continue on Friday (Sept 16) and for the first three days of next week (Sept 19 to 21).

 

It will be heard by Judge of Appeal Chao Hick Tin, and Justices Woo Bih Li and Chan Seng Onn.

 

The six who have been convicted - including CHC founder Kong Hee, 52 - are arguing against their convictions and sentences, while the prosecution is appealing for longer deterrent sentences.

 

In October last year, the six were convicted of misappropriating millions in church funds to fuel the pop music career of Kong's wife, Ms Ho Yeow Sun, in a church mission known as the Crossover Project.

 

 

  

 

 

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The court found that they had invested $24 million from CHC's building fund in bogus bonds from music production company Xtron and glass-maker Firna, and this money was in fact used to fund the Crossover Project.

Later, another $26 million was used to cover up the initial misdeed.

For their crimes, the six were handed jail terms ranging from 21 months to eight years.

Kong, singled out as the key man behind the scandal, was given the stiffest sentence.

Presiding Judge See Kee Oon had choice words for the charismatic church pastor, who he said "acted consciously and dishonestly".

"One does not need to be an expert in legality to appreciate certain fundamental aspects of honesty, truth and integrity," wrote Judge See in his written judgment.

Former CHC fund manager Chew Eng Han, 57, was handed a six-year term. And as Kong's right hand man, deputy senior pastor Tan Ye Peng, 43, was given a sentence of five and a half years.

 

Former church finance manager Serina Wee, 39, was given a five-year term. Former CHC finance committee member John Lam, 48, was sentenced to three years in jail.

 

Former church finance manager Sharon Tan, 40, received the shortest sentence of 21 months' jail.

 

Calling the case unique and without precedent, Judge See had agreed with the defence that the church suffered no wrongful loss, but still found them guilty of serious offences - including falsifying church accounts and breaches of trust involving large sums of charity money.

 

But the prosecution has described the jail terms as "manifestly inadequate". During the trial, they called for harsher sentences - highlighting that the case involved the largest amount of charity funds ever misappropriated in Singapore's legal history, which has shaken public confidence in the charity sector.

Deputy Public Prosecutor Christopher Ong said: "It must be made clear that those leading charities, entrusted with the funds, must adhere to the highest standards of integrity and transparency."

 

The session starting on Thursday could be the final avenue of appeal open to the six church leaders.

If their appeals fail, they can only refer the case up to the Court of Appeal with its permission - and only then if there is a point or question of law to argue.

[Guest support CHC]

 

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City Harvest trial: All six CHC leaders are now in court

In October last year, the six were convicted of misappropriating millions in church funds to fuel the pop music career of church founder Kong Hee's wife. They are arguing against their convictions and sentences. str.sg/4GSv

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City Harvest trial: Kong Hee and John Lam expected to present their appeals today

Former CHC finance committee member John Lam will kick off proceedings in the morning, with CHC founder Kong Hee taking the second half. The session starting Thursday (Sept 15) could be the final avenue of appeal open to the six church leaders. str.sg/4GSv PHOTO: THE NEW PAPER

09:38

City Harvest trial: Kong Hee has just arrived at court with his wife Ho Yeow Sun

Six City Harvest Church (CHC) leaders at the centre of a multi-million dollar financial scandal will return to face the courts on Thursday (Sept 15).

The marathon City Harvest trial begins again in the High Court, with both the defence and prosecution appealing. str.sg/4GUS

07:44

City Harvest trial: Supporters queuing for a pass to sit in the court room str.sg/4GUS 

ST VIDEO: WONG KWAI CHOW

 

 

The Straits Times

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City Harvest trial: Supporters woke up bright and early to queue for a pass to sit in court. The first person arrived at 5.30am. More on our live blog: str.sg/4GT5

ST VIDEO: Wong Kwai Chow

[Guest guest]

 

Pastor Sun is so beautiful.

 

HAPPENING NOW: City Harvest Church founder Kong Hee and wife Ho Yeow Sun arrive at court for his appeal hearing. http://bit.ly/2cZ6RGd

(Photos: Calvin Oh)

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[Guest Fuck CHC]

Kong Hee to be sentenced to death!

[Guest Sun]

9 minutes ago, Guest Fuck CHC said:

Kong Hee to be sentenced to death!

 

Kong Hee is a charlatan

[Guest Guest]

49 minutes ago, Guest Sun said:

 

Kong Hee is a charlatan

 

5 horse to part his corpse or else life time imprisonment. 

[Guest Guest]

http://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/singapore/kong-hee-s-use-of-city-harvest-church-funds-in-good-faith/3129188.html

 

In court on Thursday, Kong's lawyer Edwin Tong said all three of the pastor’s convictions for criminal breach of trust should be overturned.

Kong had never intended to cause wrongful loss to the church, and had put the monies toward the church’s mission which was supported by virtually the entire congregation, the senior counsel said. 

Mr Tong argued that Kong had not pocketed any of the S$50 million he has been convicted of misappropriating and that the church had not suffered any financial loss as a result of his actions. The prosecution is not disputing these facts.

In channeling millions of dollars of church funds toward his wife’s secular music career, Kong believed he was acting in the best interests of the church because Ms Ho’s career as a singer was synonymous with what is known as the Crossover Project – the church’s mission to reach out to non-Christians through pop music, the lawyer said.

He argued that even if the church’s monies had been “wrongfully used” to bankroll Ms Ho’s career, it did not mean that Kong had been dishonest. 

"It is beyond question that the accused believed wholeheartedly that they were using church funds for an approved church purpose," Mr Tong said. 

The lawyer also rubbished the allegation that Kong had intended to act dishonestly by using church monies to “secretly fund his wife’s career”, as prosecutors have alleged, saying Kong had consistently consulted auditors and lawyers on two bond investments, which Judge See had found to be sham investments.

Even if the investments were a sham, “every cent was used entirely for the church’s mission”, Mr Tong said. “Even if (the church’s funds – meant for investments or building-related expenses) were put to “wrongful use”, they were “applied in good faith” and caused no loss to the church, he added. 

[Guest 43876]

50 minutes ago, Guest Guest said:

http://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/singapore/kong-hee-s-use-of-city-harvest-church-funds-in-good-faith/3129188.html

 

In court on Thursday, Kong's lawyer Edwin Tong said all three of the pastor’s convictions for criminal breach of trust should be overturned.

Kong had never intended to cause wrongful loss to the church, and had put the monies toward the church’s mission which was supported by virtually the entire congregation, the senior counsel said. 

Mr Tong argued that Kong had not pocketed any of the S$50 million he has been convicted of misappropriating and that the church had not suffered any financial loss as a result of his actions. The prosecution is not disputing these facts.

In channeling millions of dollars of church funds toward his wife’s secular music career, Kong believed he was acting in the best interests of the church because Ms Ho’s career as a singer was synonymous with what is known as the Crossover Project – the church’s mission to reach out to non-Christians through pop music, the lawyer said.

He argued that even if the church’s monies had been “wrongfully used” to bankroll Ms Ho’s career, it did not mean that Kong had been dishonest. 

"It is beyond question that the accused believed wholeheartedly that they were using church funds for an approved church purpose," Mr Tong said. 

The lawyer also rubbished the allegation that Kong had intended to act dishonestly by using church monies to “secretly fund his wife’s career”, as prosecutors have alleged, saying Kong had consistently consulted auditors and lawyers on two bond investments, which Judge See had found to be sham investments.

Even if the investments were a sham, “every cent was used entirely for the church’s mission”, Mr Tong said. “Even if (the church’s funds – meant for investments or building-related expenses) were put to “wrongful use”, they were “applied in good faith” and caused no loss to the church, he added. 

 

We are entering a dangerous phase in human development when lawyerz argue that end justifies the means. The end justify the means??

 

Where can that stupid self delusional CHEENA wine siao charbo can still raise her face and see church members face to face. Where is the decency and shame?

[Guest Sun Ho]

Used moneybfoor Mr Bill, Chinawine, Fancy Free all in good faith.

 

Paid Clef, Elephant Man, Lady Saw all in good faith.

 

 

[Guest Geisha]

Mix the China wine with the dutty wine!

[nixorn]

Haha...the judge's comment at the end.

 

From CNA :

 

'I thought Sun Ho was a megastar': Chew Eng Han says of church's Crossover Project

 

By Vanessa Paige Chelvan Posted 16 Sep 2016 14:06 Updated 16 Sep 2016 14:10

 

SINGAPORE: The High Court on Friday morning (Sep 16) heard the appeal of Chew Eng Han, who was sentenced to six years' jail last November for his part in misappropriating S$50 million of City Harvest Church funds.

 

Chew, who served as the church's investment manager, argued he should be acquitted because "there was no misappropriation". He said the sentencing judge had "gravely erred" in his ruling, and used a flawed definition of misappropriation.

 

Though Chew conceded that the S$50 million - set aside for the church’s investments and building-related expenses - had instead been channelled towards the secular music career of Sun Ho, he argued the sentencing judge had "automatically" assumed this was done dishonestly.

 

Chew said this cannot be the case, because "the church had not been deprived", but rather benefitted, from the channelling of funds toward "a church purpose" - Ms Ho's music career.

 

"The logic is Sun becomes a megastar, (holds more) concerts ... then she can evangelise,” Chew said, adding that he had attended two concerts himself and believed "100 per cent" in the Crossover Project, even donating S$1 million towards it.

 

Having done so, it is "illogical for me to want to cause loss to the church", he said.

 

Chew also told the court the funding of the Crossover Project had been "secret". This was not because the six conspirators knew or thought that it was illegal to use church funds in this way, but because "Kong Hee was afraid of being exposed for rigging Sun Ho's success".

 

"Kong's guilt should not be automatically imputed to others,” Chew said. Pointing to an e-mail Kong wrote to co-accused John Lam in January 2005, Chew said he had been "brainwashed" into supporting the Crossover Project as Kong regularly played up Ho's success.

 

"I thought she was a megastar,” Chew said. In reality, the church had bought up unsold stock of Sun's albums, the court heard.

 

"If this was a conspiracy, it is the worst thought-out conspiracy ever,” Chew said.

 

"It looks that way to me too,” Judge of Appeal Chao Hick Tin responded, prompting laughter from the public gallery.

 

The appeal continues on Friday afternoon, when Sharon Tan's case will be heard. "

 

 

[mith]

all are shameless!... crooks most definitely!

 

IT WAS PUBLICLY ADMITTED IN HIGH COURT NO LESS : THE WITCH HO CD WERE BOUGHT BY BRAINLESS CHURCH MEMBERS AND UNSOLD COPIES WERE THEN BOUGHT UP BY THE CHURCH USING CHURCH FUND! SUPERSTAR, MY ASS

[Guest Guest]

5 minutes ago, mith said:

all are shameless!... crooks most definitely!

 

IT WAS PUBLICLY ADMITTED IN HIGH COURT NO LESS : THE WITCH HO CD WERE BOUGHT BY BRAINLESS CHURCH MEMBERS AND UNSOLD COPIES WERE THEN BOUGHT UP BY THE CHURCH USING CHURCH FUND! SUPERSTAR, MY ASS

 

Excuse me?  Where is the proof?

[Guest Guest]

今晚是Kong Hee 的最后一夜

明天准备洗屁股坐牢咯。

[doncoin]

Can't resist. Perhaps his wife can serenade最後一夜to him. 

 

 

[snowball]

出來还不是一条" 富 " 汉，身后还不是跟着一群。。。

[Guest Guest]

他可以在里头传教，多伟大耶。

[Guest Kong khongs]

In god's plan. He spent $25 million to cross over to changi prison to preach his gospel, so many inmates will be saved!

 

God's plan works in unimaginable ways! 

 

Apostle Khong, you're next!

[quanjishou]

8 hours ago, snowball said:

出來还不是一条" 富 " 汉，身后还不是跟着一群。。。

Wanna write make it complete. 

出來还不是一条" 富 " 汉，身后还不是跟着一群笨蛋

[Guest Bonfire]

Embezzle millions of fund, put back the money, make the followers feel they are not cheated, small jail time. #uniquelysingapore

[mith]

all got sentences reduced!

 

i lost all hope in our judicial system... sigh.

[lovehandle]

I was shocked that msn said he can now enjoy all the peanut butter in the world and good old China wine

the media don't like him for sure

http://www.msn.com/en-sg/news/other/in-shocking-decision-convicted-city-harvest-church-members-get-sentences-drastically-reduced/ar-BBzvsdT?ocid=ob-fb-ensg-399

[snowball]

 

Edited April 7, 2017 by snowball

[Guest Guest]

God has eyes! Hallelujah

[Steve5380]

The important fact is that after having had their day in court, all six will spend many many days in jail.

Nothing can change the fact that all six ARE CRIMINALS now.

Would you attend a church run by criminals?

[Guest Guest]

1 hour ago, Steve5380 said:

The important fact is that after having had their day in court, all six will spend many many days in jail.

Nothing can change the fact that all six ARE CRIMINALS now.

Would you attend a church run by criminals?

 

你搞什么鬼？你最好给我回家睡觉！不要太过分！ 关你屁事？

[Steve5380]

45 minutes ago, Guest Guest said:

 

你搞什么鬼？你最好给我回家睡觉！不要太过分！ 关你屁事？

 

Blah, blah, blah...

[Steve5380]

I was going to rant about the corruption of the judges who stretched the trial forever and then gave so much leniency to the defendants, but I have a better idea.

 

I think it is better to consider this court the best the defendants could have had  (this makes the Singaporeans feel good...) and the fact that they were found guilty leaves no doubt that they are a bunch of CRIMINALS.  Their CRIMINAL mind explains their calling of innocent gays GUILTY OF SIN, an abominable slander that has no basis of reality.  In Christianity, we don't have outstanding moral leaders bashing homosexuals.  Jesus Christ never said a word against homosexuals.  Pope Francis is changing his church to a more accepting of homosexuals.  There are Saints for the workers, Saints for the poor, Saints for whatever, but there is no single Saint for the "fighters of homosexuals".

 

If I were a Singaporean, I would now without mercy rub in the face of the City Harvest Church the fact that they have NO moral standing because they were created by CRIMINALS and now are run by people WHO SUPPORT CRIMINALS.  So all their preaching against gays were done with CRIMINAL minds. 

[Guest Guest]

7 hours ago, Steve5380 said:

I was going to rant about the corruption of the judges who stretched the trial forever and then gave so much leniency to the defendants, but I have a better idea.

 

I think it is better to consider this court the best the defendants could have had  (this makes the Singaporeans feel good...) and the fact that they were found guilty leaves no doubt that they are a bunch of CRIMINALS.  Their CRIMINAL mind explains their calling of innocent gays GUILTY OF SIN, an abominable slander that has no basis of reality.  In Christianity, we don't have outstanding moral leaders bashing homosexuals.  Jesus Christ never said a word against homosexuals.  Pope Francis is changing his church to a more accepting of homosexuals.  There are Saints for the workers, Saints for the poor, Saints for whatever, but there is no single Saint for the "fighters of homosexuals".

 

If I were a Singaporean, I would now without mercy rub in the face of the City Harvest Church the fact that they have NO moral standing because they were created by CRIMINALS and now are run by people WHO SUPPORT CRIMINALS.  So all their preaching against gays were done with CRIMINAL minds. 

 

Just like how we should now without mercy rub in the face of the American that they have NO moral standing because they are run by Donald Trump? So all their international policies were done with XENOPHOBIC minds? 

[Guest Guest]

14 minutes ago, Guest Guest said:

 

Just like how we should now without mercy rub in the face of the American that they have NO moral standing because they are run by Donald Trump? So all their international policies were done with XENOPHOBIC minds? 

 

LOLOL

[Steve5380]

1 hour ago, Guest Guest said:

 

Just like how we should now without mercy rub in the face of the American that they have NO moral standing because they are run by Donald Trump? So all their international policies were done with XENOPHOBIC minds? 

 

Sorry, wrong example!

 

You may not know this, but over half of the US electorate voted AGAINST Trump, it's just that the screwed up electoral system gave the victory to him. 

So most Americans we ARE NOT xenophobic, and we have no choice but to live with the Trump!

 

But the people in your City Harvest Church HAVE THE CHOICE to go there, so they are all voluntarily HOMOPHOBIC.  What a pity!

[Guest Guest]

32 minutes ago, Steve5380 said:

 

Sorry, wrong example!

 

You may not know this, but over half of the US electorate voted AGAINST Trump, it's just that the screwed up electoral system gave the victory to him. 

So most Americans we ARE NOT xenophobic, and we have no choice but to live with the Trump!

 

But the people in your City Harvest Church HAVE THE CHOICE to go there, so they are all voluntarily HOMOPHOBIC.  What a pity!

 

You have the choice to lodge a protest through your senate to call for a new election, an impeachment, and there are multitude of ways for you to go against him in your country. Your laws allow you to do that. You can also quit your own country if you want to.

 

But you didn't. You still CHOOSE to follow his lead, which is a lead YOU put in place because of a system which YOU approved.

 

So, we should now without mercy rub in YOUR face that YOU have NO moral standing because YOU are run by Donald Trump. So all YOUR international policies were done with XENOPHOBIC minds. 

 

 

 

[mith]

non of the 6 CRIMINALS, soon to-be CONVICTS show any remorse! 

[mith]

these convicts are merely using the good name of GOD for criminal intents and doings! 

 

wake up all u blinded lambs, turn around and find the true GOD... 

[Steve5380]

1 hour ago, Guest Guest said:

 

You have the choice to lodge a protest through your senate to call for a new election, an impeachment, and there are multitude of ways for you to go against him in your country. Your laws allow you to do that. You can also quit your own country if you want to.

 

But you didn't. You still CHOOSE to follow his lead, which is a lead YOU put in place because of a system which YOU approved.

 

So, we should now without mercy rub in YOUR face that YOU have NO moral standing because YOU are run by Donald Trump. So all YOUR international policies were done with XENOPHOBIC minds. 

 

 

You are quite ignorant about the political situation in the US.  There are investigations going on about the involvement of the Trump campaign with Russia, and there is great effort into finding grounds to impeach Trump.  In a country of laws like ours you cannot just make a revolution and overthrow him.

 

What stupidity makes you think that I chose Trump, that I approve of him? 

Your "rubbing in the face" is so hilarious that it backfires.

The American situation is not the same as you choosing City Harvest Church and kissing the ass of their criminals.  

[Steve5380]

1 hour ago, mith said:

these convicts are merely using the good name of GOD for criminal intents and doings! 

 

wake up all u blinded lambs, turn around and find the true GOD... 

 

We already are seeing the most advanced nations becoming more and more secular, 

its members increasingly rejecting religious dogmas as opportunistic fantasies.

[Steve5380]

1 hour ago, mith said:

non of the 6 CRIMINALS, soon to-be CONVICTS show any remorse! 

 

This is because they are hard core deceivers who have learned how to dupe their sheep and extract money from them.

[Guest Madonna]

Which part of the name "city harvest" you guys don't understand? Lol

Kong hee treats the whole congragation literally like crops and farm animals - to be periodically harvested. Lol

 

It's a silent contract on the church. Like the judge said, this is a special case, chc is not your plain old church, it is a beehive system where the queen bee, in this case, sun ho, is fed till she implodes and scatter her stardust on everyone lol. Chc goers are all worker bees! They run on their own system.

 

Beehives! Singaporeans live like bees in a beehive anyway - hdb flats are cramped and according to josephine teo, enough space for procreation can already - where lsl is the queen bee who gets to enjoy the results - million dollar salary from not doing much - of our hardwork.

 

No wonder they got away with light sentences!

[Steve5380]

4 hours ago, Guest Madonna said:

Which part of the name "city harvest" you guys don't understand? Lol

Kong hee treats the whole congragation literally like crops and farm animals - to be periodically harvested. Lol

 

It's a silent contract on the church. Like the judge said, this is a special case, chc is not your plain old church, it is a beehive system where the queen bee, in this case, sun ho, is fed till she implodes and scatter her stardust on everyone lol. Chc goers are all worker bees! They run on their own system.

 

Beehives! Singaporeans live like bees in a beehive anyway - hdb flats are cramped and according to josephine teo, enough space for procreation can already - where lsl is the queen bee who gets to enjoy the results - million dollar salary from not doing much - of our hardwork.

 

No wonder they got away with light sentences!

 

LOL!  I like the analogy with bee hives,  in this case better fitting than sheep who follow their shepherd. The bees may not be so dumb as sheep but they are genetically conditioned to work their wings off to serve the colony and their queen.  Maybe the nice Singaporeans are genetically conditioned to serve their oligarchy?  And their fantasy God?

[Guest snowball]

On 08/04/2017 at 10:08 AM, mith said:

these convicts are merely using the good name of GOD for criminal intents and doings! 

 

wake up all u blinded lambs, turn around and find the true GOD... 

perhaps most of them do not believe god deep in their heart, irony

[Guest Queen Bee]

33 minutes ago, Guest snowball said:

perhaps most of them do not believe god deep in their heart, irony

Yes they believe only in lies, money and temptations. The singaporean system - a treasure trove and vault of ironies!

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