Fresh chicken snapped up at S'pore wet markets, supermarkets after Malaysia announces export ban

[lonelyglobe]

https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/consumer/fresh-chicken-snapped-up-at-wet-markets-supermarkets-days-after-msia-announces-export-ban

 

Anyone here guilty of this? Was at one big NTUC and the chicken section simply empty. Plan ahead,  quickly snap up pork, beef and mutton, if they can stop chicken,  they can stop other poultry. 

[Guest Kiasu]

So stupid you snap up fresh chicken it's banned for 1 month le. 

 

Then you freeze the chicken in your fridge. 

 

Isn't that the same as buying a frozen chicken say mid of next month. 

 

LOL 

[lonelyglobe]

Absolutely, 无知比愚蠢更可怕, 闹鸡荒了.

But the problem is we dont know for how long the ban will be, frozen chicken prices expected to rise and what if they also decided to ban frozen chicken? 

Edited May 25, 2022 by lonelyglobe

[Guest Vagitarian]

On 5/25/2022 at 4:46 PM, lonelyglobe said:

Absolutely, 无知比愚蠢更可怕, 闹鸡荒了.

But the problem is we dont know for how long the ban will be, frozen chicken prices expected to rise and what if they also decided to ban frozen chicken? 

 

Then go vegetarian lo 

 

[Didisticha]

Rear our own in HDB 

[Guest fresh meat]

On 5/25/2022 at 6:24 PM, Didisticha said:

Rear our own in HDB 

 

must protect the community cocks. 

during covid-19 my block area got alot of wild chickens. 

now like no sight/sound of the chickens.

 

i think people already kill them for fresh chickens!

[Guest Ah Ma]

The title , please delete the chicken and read boh liao very apt 

[Didisticha]

On 5/25/2022 at 6:43 PM, Guest fresh meat said:

 

must protect the community cocks. 

during covid-19 my block area got alot of wild chickens. 

now like no sight/sound of the chickens.

 

i think people already kill them for fresh chickens!

You must stay near zhenghua, punggol or pasir ris

Edited May 25, 2022 by Didisticha

[Why?]

No chicken, try duck or..cock?

[Didisticha]

I've seen people rearing pheasants at Orto in Khatib. Those are atas versions of the local wild chickens.

 

In Europe people hunt for these, hang them upside down for 7 days in cool weather for it to decompose, soften and develop flavor. 

 

In some wet markets here like bangkit can buy kampong chicken. Some are local reared. Don't have to always rely on NTUC.

Edited May 25, 2022 by Didisticha

[Guest Guest]

In France, the French Revolution happened after this

 

 

 

In Singapore, she became the President after this:

 

 

[lonelyglobe]

How come last time never say no toilet paper use wash one?

 

Due to covid and the stupid war,  more countries will be practising protectionism, is not how wide your door are open or how much money u have, this food shortage issue never really tackle well. 

 

 

How can this be considered as well diversified? Just 2 countries make up more than 80% of our chicken supply,  lets hope Brazil not imposing any ban.

[StockBottom]

I just ate chicken rice today ... prolly my last 😭

[Guest Tomato]

On 5/25/2022 at 4:22 PM, Guest Kiasu said:

So stupid you snap up fresh chicken it's banned for 1 month le. 

 

Then you freeze the chicken in your fridge. 

 

Isn't that the same as buying a frozen chicken say mid of next month. 

 

LOL 

 

It is different.

Industrial freezer can go as low as -30C.  That's why frozen food under such can last very long.

But our home freezer can only freeze chickens up to -1C.  Which means, 'degeneration' of the meat will start, these hoarded chicken in the home fridge will be carcass meat when you eat it.

 

[Guest You kool]

On 5/26/2022 at 8:28 PM, Guest Tomato said:

 

It is different.

Industrial freezer can go as low as -30C.  That's why frozen food under such can last very long.

But our home freezer can only freeze chickens up to -1C.  Which means, 'degeneration' of the meat will start, these hoarded chicken in the home fridge will be carcass meat when you eat it.

 

 

-1 deg C is referring to the chiller compartment where you thaw meat and fish  , that small enclosed compartment with that small square Aluminum plate. 

 

Home refridgerator's Freezer compartments are supposed to be at -12 to -18 degrees C. 

 

Frozen chicken thawed on the way back from supamart are not to be refreezed back.

 

You put it in the -1 deg compartment to chill but must be fully cooked and  eaten within 12 to 24 hours.

 

Home facts.

[Healing Therapy]

Anyway,  most of us have only 1 fridge at home,  how many whole chicken can u keep, 2, 3? Just pray that price of chicken rice  don't go up too much. 

Edited May 26, 2022 by Healing Therapy

[Guest You Koo]

Some reports, malaysia say fish also not enough to export.

[jlone]

On 5/25/2022 at 9:05 PM, Guest Guest said:

In France, the French Revolution happened after this

 

 

 

In Singapore, she became the President after this:

 

 

She never go to market type n dun know the prices of chicken or fish. 

Talk big only

[lonelyglobe]

On 5/27/2022 at 8:56 AM, jlone said:

She never go to market type n dun know the prices of chicken or fish. 

Talk big only

Ok lah,  she only got 1 more year left to talk big, hopefully.... 

On 5/27/2022 at 8:48 AM, Guest You Koo said:

Some reports, malaysia say fish also not enough to export.

No fish eat prawn also good.

 

[Guest Malaysia Truly Asia]

On 5/27/2022 at 7:15 PM, lonelyglobe said:

 

No fish eat prawn also good.

 

Later malaysia also say no prawn, then no this, no that...no renoma panties

[lonelyglobe]

https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/first-day-of-malaysias-chicken-export-ban-sellers-in-spore-face-higher-costs-stopping-operations

[Guest KFC]

Will Singapore KFC close shop?

[Guest Derelict]

I m local free range chicken - 本地野鸡

 

Eat me lah, I not scare.  Come!

[lonelyglobe]

On 6/1/2022 at 1:30 PM, Guest KFC said:

Will Singapore KFC close shop?

That will happen if Brazil also ban export of chicken. On second note, these exporting countries knew we are desperate for chicken,  would they take this opportunity to increase the price? 

[lonelyglobe]

On 6/1/2022 at 1:39 PM, Guest Derelict said:

I m local free range chicken - 本地野鸡

 

Eat me lah, I not scare.  Come!

Cannot anyhow eat wild chicken, must be certified by the relevant authority to confirm safe to eat. 

[Guest KFC]

I would suggest we create a big wooden floating "boat". 1x1 km. Let it float on water. Anchor down.

We can breed cheeken there. Cheeken farm but on water. Won't waste our precious land.

Everyday someone just drive boat there, feed cheeken food and water. Cheeken no need other amenities.

Weekend can also let horny couples go there piak piak, since some Sinkies need more space to piak

[bluerunner]

On 5/27/2022 at 8:48 AM, Guest You Koo said:

Some reports, malaysia say fish also not enough to export.

The world has too many people living on it. That’s the problem. 

[Steve5380]

On 5/26/2022 at 7:28 AM, Guest Tomato said:

 

It is different.

Industrial freezer can go as low as -30C.  That's why frozen food under such can last very long.

But our home freezer can only freeze chickens up to -1C.  Which means, 'degeneration' of the meat will start, these hoarded chicken in the home fridge will be carcass meat when you eat it.

 

 

What you write seems unusual.

 

Any home fridge, even a cheap one,  should be able to lower the temperature of its freezer to 0 degF = -18C.  Warmer than this,  your ice cream will melt and frozen food will keep aging.  Could your home fridge not be set low enough, or something is broken?

[InBangkok]

On 6/2/2022 at 7:55 AM, Steve5380 said:

What you write seems unusual.

 

Any home fridge, even a cheap one,  should be able to lower the temperature of its freezer to 0 degF = -18C.  Warmer than this,  your ice cream will melt and frozen food will keep aging.  Could your home fridge not be set low enough, or something is broken?

Given that your visits to Singapore have been restricted to attending gay saunas, you will obviously not have visited many Singapore  homes (if any) - or those in other Asian nations. Few people can afford more than a combined refrigerator with a small freezer compartment. Getting even a small chicken inside probably means throwing out all other food. I have rarely been in any homes with a separate freezer. Your home and many US homes may well have big freezers. Before making such comments you should check on the size of typical home refrigerators/freezers in Asia.

[Steve5380]

On 6/1/2022 at 11:16 PM, InBangkok said:

Given that your visits to Singapore have been restricted to attending gay saunas, you will obviously not have visited many Singapore  homes (if any) - or those in other Asian nations. Few people can afford more than a combined refrigerator with a small freezer compartment. Getting even a small chicken inside probably means throwing out all other food. I have rarely been in any homes with a separate freezer. Your home and many US homes may well have big freezers. Before making such comments you should check on the size of typical home refrigerators/freezers in Asia.

 

No, I haven't bought a fridge in Asia,  but I know well how they should work, something you should learn. 

 

I have at home a large fridge with two doors, the bottom one is for the large freezer. For food safety, the freezer part should be able to reach -18 degC ( zero deg F).  I am not talking about appliances that are separate dedicated freezers.  Even small fridges,  mini fridges, have the same requirement:  their freezer compartment should be cooler than -15 C,  ideally -18C. These smaller fridges may have a single door,  with the freezer separated on top by a thin plastic door.  But nonetheless, its temperature should be cold enough for food safety reasons.  In these smaller fridges you may not be able to place a whole chicken in the freezer, but this is not necessary since one can cut up the whole chicken before freezing and reduce its volume significantly.

 

The exception may be the mini fridges you are probably familiar with,  the "mini bars" in hotel rooms. In these the "freezer" is just a small compartment on the side to make ice cubes, which you then drop into the drinks you like much.

[Guest Frozen is not Fresh]

On 6/2/2022 at 10:09 PM, Steve5380 said:

.  Even small fridges,  mini fridges, have the same requirement:  their freezer compartment should be cooler than -15 C,  ideally -18C. These smaller fridges may have a single door,  with the freezer separated on top by a thin plastic door.......blah blah blah....

It doesn't matter what size and shape is your chiller.  Meat frozen for too long will lose its freshness and taste.   I still prefer chicken, while they were still chatty and chirpy in the farmhouse, on one day and ended up on your dish the following day.   I called  that FRESH FROM THE FARM.

[lonelyglobe]

https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/bag-of-chicken-costing-7227-is-for-real-says-fairprice-of-photo-making-rounds-on-social-media

 

I think the supplier's profit also very "organic" ha.... 

[Steve5380]

On 6/2/2022 at 9:48 AM, Guest Frozen is not Fresh said:

It doesn't matter what size and shape is your chiller.  Meat frozen for too long will lose its freshness and taste.   I still prefer chicken, while they were still chatty and chirpy in the farmhouse, on one day and ended up on your dish the following day.   I called  that FRESH FROM THE FARM.

 

How much is "too long"?  We hear that now that polar ice is melting, bodies of animals are found that have been frozen for centuries, and they have been amazingly preserved. Its doubtful that they have eaten their flesh, so "taste" is unknown.  And they are definitely NOT fresh.

 

But, how important is fresh?  It sounds good.  But food experts claim that frozen vegetables and other foods preserve all the nutritional benefits of fresh ones.  And some premium meats are aged a few days to improve them.  So "fresh" may please more the mind than the body.

 

You may be horrified by what I did the other day:  I bought about 5 kilos of frozen chicken quarters. These include legs and some part of the ribs.  I partially unfroze the big bag and separated the quarters into independent potions, which went back to the freezer.  Now every couple of days I unfreeze one quarter for a day in the fridge, and then I remove the skin and separate the meat from the bones.  The bones go back to the freezer to add up, and when there are sufficient there I put them in my pressure cooker with plenty of water and a bit of vinegar, and let them cook for 1 hour at high temperature/pressure.  This creates a chicken bone broth full of good bone minerals and gelatin, which I drink for several days.  The meat from the quarter has a lot of connective tissue, tendons.  I cut it in pieces and cook them in the microwave, and then eat over two days.  This meat is not considered the best quality in a chicken, and so is inexpensive.  I paid four US dollars ( SGD5.5 )for the 5 kilos. 

 

Why I do this?  I started feeling a little arthritis in the articulation of my right thumb.  This is inconvenient when I play the piano.  I estimate that the connective tissue plus the bone broth are substances that will improve my own bones,  and my right thumb is already improving.  These chicken quarters will last me for about one month, and they are nicely preserved frozen.  Not fresh, maybe not the most exquisite taste,  but practical.

.

Edited June 2, 2022 by Steve5380

[Steve5380]

On 6/2/2022 at 12:57 PM, lonelyglobe said:

https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/bag-of-chicken-costing-7227-is-for-real-says-fairprice-of-photo-making-rounds-on-social-media

 

I think the supplier's profit also very "organic" ha.... 

 

WHAT???   72 dollars ( US$52.2 ) for about 7 pounds of chicken?  This comes out to  US$7.5 per pound of... whole chicken!   Here in Houston we pay US$5 for one pound of... organic grass fed chicken breasts.    My biggest empathy for you Singaporeans who have to pay such high prices.  Hopefully you eat less, and stay slim.

[Guest Chicken and Egg story]

On 6/3/2022 at 2:17 AM, Steve5380 said:

 

You may be horrified by what I did the other day:  I bought about 5 kilos of frozen chicken quarters. These include legs and some part of the ribs.  I partially unfroze the big bag and separated the quarters into independent potions, which went back to the freezer.  Now every couple of days I unfreeze one quarter for a day in the fridge, and then I remove the skin and separate the meat from the bones.  The bones go back to the freezer to add up, and when there are sufficient there I put them in my pressure cooker with plenty of water and a bit of vinegar, and let them cook for 1 hour at high temperature/pressure.  This creates a chicken bone broth full of good bone minerals and gelatin, which I drink for several days.  The meat from the quarter has a lot of connective tissue, tendons.  I cut it in pieces and cook them in the microwave, and then eat over two days.  This meat is not considered the best quality in a chicken, and so is inexpensive.  I paid four US dollars ( SGD5.5 )for the 5 kilos. 

My mom did exactly just that.  You sound like her.  Anyhoo....why don't you raise chickens in your backyard?  It is very practical and organic if you feed them with pure fresh grass.  You also get free eggs out of them too.  They also fed on fire ants and other creepy crawly.  So many benefits. 

[Steve5380]

On 6/2/2022 at 8:54 PM, Guest Chicken and Egg story said:

My mom did exactly just that.  You sound like her.  Anyhoo....why don't you raise chickens in your backyard?  It is very practical and organic if you feed them with pure fresh grass.  You also get free eggs out of them too.  They also fed on fire ants and other creepy crawly.  So many benefits. 

 

Not a bad idea.  But my homeowners association will not agree with that.  

What I could do is to have a vegetable garden.  But I am a little lazy to learn how to cultivate vegetables and do it.  I am a city person.  I hope I won't have to do it if the worldwide food shortage hits Houston...

[InBangkok]

On 6/2/2022 at 9:09 PM, Steve5380 said:

I have at home a large fridge with two doors, the bottom one is for the large freezer

And I suppose you think you know enough that double door fridges are common in most households in Singapore? Time you visited a typical Singapore flat and seen the amount space for such units. Very few are double door fridges. The vast majority are single door with a small freezer compartment.

Edited June 3, 2022 by InBangkok

[Guest Huh?]

On 6/3/2022 at 11:02 AM, InBangkok said:

And I suppose you think you know enough that double door fridges are common in most households in Singapore? Time you visited a typical Singapore flat and seen the amount space for such units. 

You ready to invite him to your home ?

[Guest Dumber than the chicken]

On 6/3/2022 at 2:31 AM, Steve5380 said:

 

WHAT???   72 dollars ( US$52.2 ) for about 7 pounds of chicken?  This comes out to  US$7.5 per pound of... whole chicken!   Here in Houston we pay US$5 for one pound of... organic grass fed chicken breasts.    My biggest empathy for you Singaporeans who have to pay such high prices.  Hopefully you eat less, and stay slim.

 

On 6/3/2022 at 1:57 AM, lonelyglobe said:

https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/bag-of-chicken-costing-7227-is-for-real-says-fairprice-of-photo-making-rounds-on-social-media

 

I think the supplier's profit also very "organic" ha.... 

the people complaining here are dumber than the chickens in the bag.
 

Go to any premium butcher and you can easily pay this much for TWO organic free range birds.

 

[lonelyglobe]

On 6/3/2022 at 1:07 PM, Guest Dumber than the chicken said:

 

the people complaining here are dumber than the chickens in the bag.
 

Go to any premium butcher and you can easily pay this much for TWO organic free range birds.

 

I am just stating a fact that the supplier are making organic profit and if u take that as a complain,  then i suppose like what u said: "u r dumber than the chickens in the bag."😂

[Guest Dumber than the chicken]

On 6/3/2022 at 1:16 PM, lonelyglobe said:

I am just stating a fact that the supplier are making organic profit and if u take that as a complain,  then i suppose like what u said: "u r dumber than the chickens in the bag."😂

suppliers shouldn’t make profit now? 
 

😂 

[Guest Smelly CUNT]

The CUNT is no longer running its operation on moral compass.  Just like its master.  The other day, I saw them selling one Apple for $2. 

[Steve5380]

On 6/2/2022 at 10:02 PM, InBangkok said:

And I suppose you think you know enough that double door fridges are common in most households in Singapore? Time you visited a typical Singapore flat and seen the amount space for such units. Very few are double door fridges. The vast majority are single door with a small freezer compartment.

 

More of your dumb criticism.  

 

I was responding to "Guest Tomato" and for his own good.  He stated that his freezer at home can only go down to -1C.  This is not usual, and he should see what is wrong with his fridge.   The freezers in home fridges should be able to reach about 0F, that is, -18C.  It does not matter if the fridge is large or small, one or more doors.  This should be the case in SG, in Taiwan, in China, in all of Asia and in all continents of the world.  for food safety reasons.  This is a fortunate consequence that the refrigerant in home fridges is capable to evaporate down to this low temperature and even lower.   

 

The only exception I can think of are the "mini bar" little things you find in your hotel room, which only need to be able to make frozen ice cubes, the ones you put in the drinks you like.   I am confident that even in the smallest flats, Singaporeans will be able to have home fridges larger than these "mini bar" ones.  A decent fridge, which can be small, is not too expensive, and it can last for a lifetime. University students in their dorms often have small fridges,  and it is recommended that they check the temperature in their freezers, for their own safety.

[Guest Human right]

On 6/3/2022 at 10:47 AM, Steve5380 said:

 

Not a bad idea.  But my homeowners association will not agree with that.  

Whoever they are, they have no right to stop you. You need to exercise your human rights to keep live chicken. It is America!

[Steve5380]

On 6/3/2022 at 11:53 AM, Guest Human right said:

Whoever they are, they have no right to stop you. You need to exercise your human rights to keep live chicken. It is America!

 

You know little about this in America.  You don't even live here. And this is not an issue of human rights.

 

https://haysfreepress.com/2017/05/31/proposed-backyard-chicken-bill-runs-afowl-in-texas-senate/

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Edited June 3, 2022 by Steve5380

[Guest Gah men]

Can ban the remittance of money back to Malaysia

[doncoin]

This is probably a waste of time explaining.

 

The temporary chicken export ban is the result of global supply chain issues. Majority of the chicken feed are imported from overseas. Countries like Ukraine is a major exporter of agricultural products, including chicken feed. With the war happening, farmers are displaced. There is no one to harvest the crops, and hence nothing to export. So what we are experiencing is a trickle down effect. 

 

Due to constant demand, but dwindling supply, prices of chicken feed and other agricultural products have gone up. In addition, gas/fuel prices have also escalated due to the embargo against Russian oil. Until farmers in Malaysia can find alternative sources of chicken feed, they do not have enough resources to export live chickens.

 

By putting in place an export ban, the Malaysian government is protecting their own citizens from inflation, as chances are, Singaporeans are probably more willing to, and can pay more for fresh chickens. Without an export ban, Malaysian farmers, being driven by profit, will export all their chickens to Singapore. This will create an artificial shortage that will drive prices for fresh chickens up for Malaysians. To prevent shortages or price hikes in Malaysia, the government had to impose an export ban. 

 

When you remit money in a different currency, you are using Singapore dollars to buy that foreign currency. It is one thing if they are sending SGD back to Malaysia, which serves little purpose since it cannot really be used easily without exchanging it back to Ringgit. In most cases, the remittance will go through foreign exchange which will sell to the buyer the Ringgit at the current exchange rate. Banning remittance does not accomplished anything. 

 

The temporary ban of fresh chickens is not some vindictive act. Rather it is a situation whose root cause can be traced all the way to the Russian/Ukrainian war. Questioning why Singapore did not retaliate is really irrelevant and the issue really highlights the importance of food security.  

[Guest Eye for sn eye]

I retaliate by not going to Malaysia to taste their cocks. I go for Bangkok cock instead. Yum

[Guest Guest]

No retaliation needed since Singapore has enough chickens roosting in the Parliament. 

[mantin30]

McDonald McChicken no longer SGD 2. Is now SGD 2.50