Elon Musk and Twitter

[singalion]

11 hours ago, 7heaven said:

Glad you confirm Washington Post does not represent Apple. 
 

That said, there is no manipulation because it was indeed Musk who went to approach Apple management to confirm that Apple will not de-platform Twitter, contrary to what activists and their media organisations buddies are pressuring Apple to do. 

 

Let's go to the media.

 

The media is entitled to publish any opinion - point of view they deem fit.

 

 

The tweet has taken the post from Washington Post totally out of context.

 

It is not even the opinion of the Washington Post but the newspaper quoting someone from a cyberlaw clinic.

 

It is merely the opinion or view of that particular person quoted.

 

But helas, that is the issue with twitter, people take a snippet then pretend as if that was the opinion or demand made by the Washington Post who does nothing other then presenting different opinions on how to deal with twitter, since Musk took over.

 

Who is here to blame?

 

No other than that Stephen L. Miller with his tweet who was misrepresenting the Washington Post.

 

 

Once again you fell trap, 7heaven, to clear manipulations posted onto twitter ....

 

It simply displays perfectly to BW readers, what limited intellectual abilities you have to differentiate between facts and manipulative allegations.

 

 

 

 

Edited December 5, 2022 by singalion

[singalion]

For anyone at BW, here is the full article by the Washington Post.

 

You can verify yourself how some people took snippets of third parties voicing their opinion and falsely accusing the Washington Post of having supported these ideas, while the Washington Post was just reporting and summarising the different views on Twitter!

 

 

Technology

‘Opening the gates of hell’: Musk says he will revive banned accounts

The Twitter chief says he will reinstate accounts suspended for threats, harassment and misinformation beginning next week

 

Published November 24, 2022 at 2:45 p.m. EST

 

 

Elon Musk plans to reinstate nearly all previously banned Twitter accounts — to the alarm of activists and online trust and safety experts.

After posting a Twitter poll asking, “Should Twitter offer a general amnesty to suspended accounts, provided that they have not broken the law or engaged in egregious spam?” in which 72.4 percent of the respondents voted yes, Musk declared, “Amnesty begins next week.”

 

The Twitter CEO did not respond Thursday to a request for comment from The Washington Post. The poll garnered more than 3 million votes.

The mass return of users who had been banned for such offenses as violent threats, harassment and misinformation will have a significant impact on the platform, experts said. And many questioned how such a resurrection would be handled, given that it’s unclear what Musk means by “egregious spam” and the difficulty of separating out users who have “broken the law,” which vary widely by jurisdiction and country.

 

“Apple and Google need to seriously start exploring booting Twitter off the app store,” said Alejandra Caraballo, clinical instructor at Harvard Law’s cyberlaw clinic. “What Musk is doing is existentially dangerous for various marginalized communities. It’s like opening the gates of hell in terms of the havoc it will cause. People who engaged in direct targeted harassment can come back and engage in doxing, targeted harassment, vicious bullying, calls for violence, celebration of violence. I can’t even begin to state how dangerous this will be.”

 

 

This is the second time in a week that Musk has used a Twitter poll to seemingly make a major decision related to the platform. On Nov. 18, he restored former president Donald Trump’s account after 52 percent of a poll’s respondents said he should do so. “Vox Populi, Vox Dei,” Musk tweeted, Latin for “the voice of the people is the voice of God.”

 

 

On that day, he also unilaterally reinstated at least 11 high-profile far-right Twitter accounts, including Jordan Peterson, a professor who was banned from Twitter for misgendering a trans person, and the Babylon Bee, a conservative media company. He also restored Project Veritas, a site that was frequently accused of misrepresenting events it commented on and banned “for repeated violations of Twitter’s private information policy,” and Georgia Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene’s personal account, which had been banned since January for violating the platform’s covid-19 misinformation policies and pushing violent and extreme rhetoric.

 

Green posted a photo Thursday showing herself and other right wing figures who have had their accounts recently reinstated at a dinner table with Musk. “Happy Thanksgiving!” she wrote.

 

Experts say that bots and bad actors can easily skew the results of a Twitter poll, and so basing decisions on one is irresponsible. “A Twitter poll can be manipulated, there’s nothing scientific or rigorous in any way about what he’s doing,” said Sarah T. Roberts, an associate professor at UCLA and faculty director for UCLA’s Center for Critical Internet Inquiry, who previously worked at Twitter researching content moderation processes.

 

 

“Before Elon took over,” Roberts added, “there were entire teams of people who did market and user research, who followed rigorous protocols established to conduct this kind of research. Suddenly, he’s running Twitter off of completely unscientific polls that are polling unknown people, and certainly not any kind of demographically representative swath of people.”

 

Many predict the restoration of banned accounts will help bring on the “free-for-all hellscape” that Musk had promised advertisers would not come to pass shortly after he took possession of the platform.

 

“This would be a major disaster especially in Africa where State sponsored Ghost accounts were suspended for endangering human rights activists & journalists,” Hopewell Chin’ono, a journalist in Africa tweeted. “You would have allowed vile people to put our lives in danger as journalists! You will have blood on your hands @elonmusk.”

 

 

Whether Musk can do what the Twitter poll seeks is a matter of debate. He has laid off leaders of the trust and safety team, which would normally handle the logistics of reactivating the accounts. And separating out those who “broke the law” is entirely dependent on whether Twitter has detailed documentation for each suspension. Without such a legal filter, which would be dependent on state and local laws for each tweet, every account would require a thorough review, given how laws vary widely by country and region.

 

 

Madeleine Burkholder, a senior technical solutions engineer who has worked on consumer products managing spam, said Musk’s ask is nonsensical. “Egregious spamming is not a technical term,” she said, and most record keeping at major tech companies doesn’t include questions of local governmental legal codes. The norm is to simply note whether an account violated a company’s terms of service, which are rules set by the platform, not a government entity.

 

“It gets really hairy to pull these threads apart and figure out what the exact behavior was that led to their suspension,” Burkholder said. “Was it an innocent mistake? Was it malicious? How malicious was it? … Doing that on a single case is challenging, trying to do it for every account ever, you’re guaranteed to make mistakes.”

 

Angelo Carusone, chairman and president of Media Matters, a nonprofit advocacy group and media watchdog, said that Musk’s decision could mean bringing back networks of individuals that include the American Nazi Party and “a whole bunch of 8chan, 4chan, conspiracy theorists who engage in harassment and abuse.” 8chan and 4chan are two message boards known for their racist and antisemitic posts.

 

 

Reversing the suspensions would mean “turning Twitter into a one-stop shop for operationalizing doxing and harassment, and an engine of radicalization,” Carusone said. “It’s a red pill Pez dispenser.”

 

And quitting Twitter won’t keep you safe. “Even if you’re not on Twitter, you can still be the recipient of these campaigns,” he said. He predicted that public health officials, election officials, journalists and teachers will all be targeted.

 

“Conducting major moderation and enforcement decisions on a whim is troubling CEO behavior,” said Nora Benavidez, senior counsel and director of digital justice and civil rights at Free Press, a nonprofit advocacy group. “Musk, under the auspices of democracy, is legitimizing decisions that will have deeply dangerous consequences in the real world.”

 

 

Benavidez said that organizations including Free Press have spent years educating tech giants on complex trust and safety issues and “pressuring them to understand the really delicate and complex role they play in mitigating harm caused to real people.” If “general amnesty” is granted for the majority of suspended accounts, “It will be open season for people suspended for hate, harassment, disinformation, conspiracies and extremism,” Benavidez said. “It’s open season in the most dangerous ways.”

 

 

“You have journalists, activists in authoritarian regimes in Africa, the Middle East, and Asia who are now even at the mercy of even more vicious trolls with no ability to fight back,” said Caraballo. “It’s literally life or death for people.”

 

 

The lifting of the suspensions was especially troubling to LGBTQ activists, coming just days after a mass killing at the Club Q in Colorado Springs killed five and wounded 18. Several of the restored accounts had previously been suspended for hateful rhetoric toward the gay and trans community, and Musk has been criticized for replying to Tim Pool, a right-wing YouTube star who falsely claimed the club had hosted a “grooming event,” and other anti-LGBTQ accounts.

 

 

“It’s a slap in the face to LGBTQ people,” Caraballo said.

 

But conservatives have largely embraced Musk and his decision making. He frequently engages with far-right influencers, such as Andy Ngô and Ian Miles Cheong, on Twitter, and has said that the company has propagated “far left San Francisco/Berkeley views.” In reality, Twitter’s algorithms amplify conservative content more than that of the political left, the company’s own research found last year. And, in 2020, right-leaning voices far outweighed liberals in driving conversations on influential topics leading up to the election, analysis by Politico and the Institute for Strategic Dialogue showed.

 

 

As Musk teases his reinstatement plan, trolls have become emboldened.

 

Far-right users of the message board 4Chan celebrated the amnesty announcement after encouraging members of the message board community to vote in Musk’s poll. On one thread, rife with slurs, 4chan users who said they were previously banned for telling vaccinated people to kill themselves, and making racist, antisemitic, misogynistic, and anti-LGBTQ comments, expressed excitement over the possibility of being reinstated. The users discussed resuming the activities that had gotten them banned. In some cases users said they’d had between 12 and 17 accounts removed for violating community guidelines.

 

“Superspreaders of hate, abuse and harassment will be the only people to benefit from this latest decision by Twitter," said Imran Ahmed, founder and CEO of the Center for Countering Digital Hate, a nonprofit focused on online hate and misinformation. “The choice for advertisers has never been starker: stick around and back Elon Musk, or protect their brands and ensure their marketing dollars aren’t used to enable the spread of hate, abuse and disinformation.”

 

 

In the days after he took over Twitter, Musk initially promised not to change the site’s moderation policies and restore accounts until after he’d appointed a moderation council. But more recently Musk has backtracked on naming such a council and has laid off hundreds of the Twitter employees whose job it was to police posts on the site.

 

Dozens of Twitter’s advertisers have paused spending with the platform in the wake of Musk’s takeover, concerned about how his approach to content moderation might affect the site’s tone.

 

 

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There is not a single piece wrong with this Washington Post article that simply presents all the different views on Twitter. Washington Post permits all different views to be presented in their detailed article.

 

Don't fall trap to 7heaven's manipulations in presenting untruths and manipulative posts copied from some twitter accounts that fail objectivity and misrepresent the facts!

 

 

[singalion]

10 hours ago, 7heaven said:

The activists and those media organisations who worked overtime and hope Musk and Twitter fail are now proven wrong because some companies are returning to Twitter for their ads. 

 

Substantiation lacking for your last point on the ads.

 

Where is the evidence?

 

As usual you just post claims without any substantiation at all.

 

 

[singalion]

11 hours ago, 7heaven said:

The activists and those media organisations who worked overtime and hope Musk and Twitter fail are now proven wrong because some companies are returning to Twitter for their ads. 

 

And why don't you talk about the activists and agitators on the other side of the room?

 

These are not pressuring Musk to do something???

 

You always permit us to see how much bias there is in your own points.

 

Presenting just one side is not objectivity.

 

 

[singalion]

14 hours ago, 7heaven said:

 

 

 

Stephen L. Miller (National Review Online, Fox News, New York Post)

 

[singalion]

11 hours ago, 7heaven said:

The activists and those media organisations who worked overtime and hope Musk and Twitter fail are now proven wrong because some companies are returning to Twitter for their ads. 

 

Here another example of 7heaven's truth distortions:

 

 

Twitter Keeps Missing Its Advertising Targets as Woes Mount

Under Elon Musk, the company has cut its financial expectations as some advertisers request discounts and are offered incentives.

Dec. 2, 2022

 

The World Cup has historically been a boon for Twitter, bringing in record traffic and an influx of advertising dollars.

 

But this time, when the global soccer tournament started on Nov. 20, Twitter’s U.S. ad revenue was running at 80 percent below internal expectations for that week, three people with knowledge of the figures said.

 

In tandem, Twitter was rapidly cutting its revenue projections. The company previously forecast that it would generate $1.4 billion in the last three months of the year, down from $1.6 billion a year ago because of the global economic downturn. But as Twitter kept missing its weekly advertising targets, that number slid to $1.3 billion, then to $1.1 billion, two people said.

 

Twitter’s advertising business has become so fraught that it has started offering brands additional incentives. Some brands are committing only to promotions for events, like the Super Bowl, with heavy discounts or clauses that allow them to back out for any reason, according to internal documents and three people familiar with the efforts.

 

Even before he completed his deal for Twitter, advertisers began expressing their doubts. Twitter had 3,980 advertisers in May, the month after Mr. Musk agreed to buy the company, according to MediaRadar, an advertising intelligence company. By October, it had 2,315 advertisers, the fewest of any month until that point.

 

 

 

=> 7heaven can simply only post untruths and blatant lies onto

=> BW. 99.9% of 7heaven's posts are just unbacked claims!

 

 

 

 

 

Edited December 5, 2022 by singalion

[singalion]

11 hours ago, 7heaven said:

The real question is can Musk choose to ban or unban any Twitter account since he owns the company? 
 

Musk has provided reasons for banning or unbanning twitter accounts. Just because people disagree with his reasons does not make his decision arbitrary. 
 

 

Musk should be CEO but let the decisions on banning and other disciplinary measures be done by independent/ impartial advisors.

 

The fact that  Musk personally interferes shows how arbitrary his decisions are.

 

They are not based on any principles or internal rules but just his own stomach decisions.

 

You call this rules based?

 

What a joke 7heaven.

 

 

[sgmaven]

18 hours ago, 7heaven said:

It is ok for you to believe what you want even if it departs greatly from the truth. 
 

Elon Musk did the right thing to approach Apple management and things were cleared up. And he did so quickly when activists first mooted the idea of asking Apple and Google to remove twitter. 
 

Fortunately, Apple did not crumble under the pressure from the activists and their media organisations buddies who tag team to pressure Apple and Google to deplatform Twitter. Many people are aware how toxic and pervasive the cancel culture that is being perpetuated by these activists and media organisations who will amplify their demands and cancel the people or organisations they disagree with. 
 

One can now look at how Musk is defeating these activists, and causing them endless meltdown. We are waiting for the next move from these activists and their media organisations to disrupt and sabotage Musk and Twitter now that Apple refuse to accede to their demands.

Like I have said before, if Twitter was going to be "deplatformed", who would be responsible for pulling the plug? Is it the activists and lobbyist who have ultimate control over that "button"? No! It is Apple and Google (for Google Play Store), who will ultimately make that decision.

 

Rather than first check with these companies to verify whether they were really considering "deplatforming" Twitter, Elon Musk chose the irresponsible route of ranting on Twitter that Apple wanted to shut down Twitter. As it turned out, it was totally false, and Apple (according to his conversation with Apple CEO, Tim Cook) had never considered that action.

 

So, you have a billionaire, who acts irresponsibly according to his own whims, and you are claiming that he did the right thing by ranting about it on Twitter?

 

Talk about bias!

[7heaven]

7 hours ago, singalion said:

 

The fact remains that with Musk's tweet he was first to allege Apple having banned Twitter from Apple Pay, which was untrue.

 

As a responsible businessman with ethics, instead of blindly and unknowingly publishing a false allegation, he was due to check first with Apple.

 

He was warned by good samaritans that activists are pressuring Apple and Google to deplatform Twitter. 
 

As a thoughtful and strategic business leader, he met with Apple management to verify, and was reassured. 
 

Activists should not resort to shallow tactics to pressure Apple and Google to deplatform Twitter simply because Musk refuse to accede to their demands and be at their beck and call. 

[7heaven]

7 hours ago, singalion said:

 

Your second point is also wrong:

 

There might be some activists which I don't doubt on that have their own ideas or even agenda but since when do big corporations implement without any due review what such activists suggest.

 

Nobody chained himself / herself/ itself onto the Roy Lichtenstein painting at the lobby of the Apple HQ to pressurise Apple to do something in lack of a polluting chimney where these activists could have hung themselves onto.

 

Everybody is entitled to their opinion and words expressed do not mean that someone is forced to implement anything.

 

You totally get things wrong here and are completely exaggerating once again.

 

Apple is sufficiently self reliant to take their own decisions.

 

 

It is a bad sign for Musk that he fell trap to some idiots tweeting nonsense on his platform and without any due check he posted himself these "rumours" as if they were any inch true.

 

 

Nobody needs to chain anything, the greater fear is the cancel culture perpetuated by their activists when big corporations refuse to listen to them. 
 

Apple fortunately was courageous enough not to fall prey to the toxic cancel culture. It was great that Musk quickly met up Apple management to get the reassurance from them. 

[7heaven]

7 hours ago, singalion said:

 

Let's go to the media.

 

The media is entitled to publish any opinion - point of view they deem fit.

 

 

The tweet has taken the post from Washington Post totally out of context.

 

It is not even the opinion of the Washington Post but the newspaper quoting someone from a cyberlaw clinic.

 

It is merely the opinion or view of that particular person quoted.

 

But helas, that is the issue with twitter, people take a snippet then pretend as if that was the opinion or demand made by the Washington Post who does nothing other then presenting different opinions on how to deal with twitter, since Musk took over.

 

Who is here to blame?

 

No other than that Stephen L. Miller with his tweet who was misrepresenting the Washington Post.

 

 

Once again you fell trap, 7heaven, to clear manipulations posted onto twitter ....

 

It simply displays perfectly to BW readers, what limited intellectual abilities you have to differentiate between facts and manipulative allegations.

 

 

 

 

Does Washington Post not vet what contents they publish ? Or do they simply publish whatever opinions they receive? Lol. 

[7heaven]

7 hours ago, singalion said:

 

Substantiation lacking for your last point on the ads.

 

Where is the evidence?

 

As usual you just post claims without any substantiation at all.

 

 

Musk doing the honourable thing to thank the people who give him business, so that twitter staff can remain employed. 

 

 

[singalion]

6 minutes ago, 7heaven said:

He was warned by good samaritans that activists are pressuring Apple and Google to deplatform Twitter. 
 

As a thoughtful and strategic business leader, he met with Apple management to verify, and was reassured. 
 

Activists should not resort to shallow tactics to pressure Apple and Google to deplatform Twitter simply because Musk refuse to accede to their demands and be at their beck and call. 

 

Oh come on.

 

Now you are twisting facts again to make some look as if you said something true.

 

Stop with your truth distortions.

 

Fact is and remains that Must tweeted first alleging Apple to ban twitter from Apple Pay before Musk approached Apple himself to clarify.

 

as usual you can just post your blatant lies.

 

 

[7heaven]

7 hours ago, singalion said:

 

And why don't you talk about the activists and agitators on the other side of the room?

 

These are not pressuring Musk to do something???

 

You always permit us to see how much bias there is in your own points.

 

Presenting just one side is not objectivity.

 

 

Musk is fair and impartial. Otherwise advertisers would not have returned and the number of users would not have increased. 

[singalion]

2 minutes ago, 7heaven said:

Does Washington Post not vet what contents they publish ? Or do they simply publish whatever opinions they receive? Lol. 

 

No. the Washington post tends to be a renown media that gives the word to all voices and published them.

[singalion]

Just now, 7heaven said:

Musk is fair and impartial. Otherwise advertisers would not have returned and the number of users would not have increased. 

 

Lack of any substantiation.

 

Where is your evidence on your claim that user accounts have increased?

 

Are you talking of the 11 previously banned accounts that increased the number of users?

 

 

[7heaven]

7 hours ago, singalion said:

 

Stephen L. Miller (National Review Online, Fox News, New York Post)

 

Washington Post publishing activist call to Apple and Google to boot Twitter off their app store. 

 

 

 

[singalion]

1 minute ago, singalion said:

 

Lack of any substantiation.

 

Where is your evidence on your claim that user accounts have increased?

 

Are you talking of the 11 previously banned accounts that increased the number of users?

 

 

 

 

3 minutes ago, 7heaven said:

Musk is fair and impartial. Otherwise advertisers would not have returned and the number of users would not have increased. 

 

 

as usual you are just a truth distorter and blatant liar:

 

Nothing of your posts corresponds with the true facts

 

 

Twitter may have lost more than a million users since Elon Musk took over

Estimates from Bot Sentinel suggest that more than 875,000 users deactivated their accounts between October 27 and November 1, while half a million more were suspended.

 

November 3, 2022

 

The firm Bot Sentinel, which tracks inauthentic behavior on Twitter by analyzing more than 3.1 million accounts and their activity daily, believes that around 877,000 accounts were deactivated and a further 497,000 were suspended between October 27 and November 1. That’s more than double the usual number.

 

 

Exclusive: Twitter is losing its most active users, internal documents show

(Reuters) - "Is Twitter dying?" billionaire Elon Musk mused in April, five days before offering to buy the social media platform.

The reality, according to internal Twitter (TWTR.N) research seen by Reuters, goes far beyond the handful of examples of celebrities ghosting their own accounts. Twitter is struggling to keep its most active users - who are vital to the business.

 

[7heaven]

7 hours ago, singalion said:

 

Here another example of 7heaven's truth distortions:

 

 

Twitter Keeps Missing Its Advertising Targets as Woes Mount

Under Elon Musk, the company has cut its financial expectations as some advertisers request discounts and are offered incentives.

Dec. 2, 2022

 

The World Cup has historically been a boon for Twitter, bringing in record traffic and an influx of advertising dollars.

 

But this time, when the global soccer tournament started on Nov. 20, Twitter’s U.S. ad revenue was running at 80 percent below internal expectations for that week, three people with knowledge of the figures said.

 

In tandem, Twitter was rapidly cutting its revenue projections. The company previously forecast that it would generate $1.4 billion in the last three months of the year, down from $1.6 billion a year ago because of the global economic downturn. But as Twitter kept missing its weekly advertising targets, that number slid to $1.3 billion, then to $1.1 billion, two people said.

 

Twitter’s advertising business has become so fraught that it has started offering brands additional incentives. Some brands are committing only to promotions for events, like the Super Bowl, with heavy discounts or clauses that allow them to back out for any reason, according to internal documents and three people familiar with the efforts.

 

Even before he completed his deal for Twitter, advertisers began expressing their doubts. Twitter had 3,980 advertisers in May, the month after Mr. Musk agreed to buy the company, according to MediaRadar, an advertising intelligence company. By October, it had 2,315 advertisers, the fewest of any month until that point.

 

 

 

=> 7heaven can simply only post untruths and blatant lies onto

=> BW. 99.9% of 7heaven's posts are just unbacked claims!

 

 

 

 

 

Lol. In your haste to refute a point you know little of, the forecasts here were based on previous Twitter management, and before the activists started pressuring businesses to stop advertising after Musk took over. 

[singalion]

1 minute ago, 7heaven said:

Washington Post publishing activist call to Apple and Google to boot Twitter off their app store. 

 

 

 

 

Why starting again with your dumb, obsessive compulsive repetitions of earlier posted content.

 

Having one of your insanity relapses again?

 

The tweet by that Miller was misleading. just refer to the complete article.

 

The tweet is just a snippet of one side giving their arguments by leaving out the rest of the article.

 

At no point the Washington Post called for such actions, it was just quoting what others said for completeness.

 

Stop distorting the truth with your manipulative snippet tweets posted here.

 

 

 

7 hours ago, singalion said:

For anyone at BW, here is the full article by the Washington Post.

 

You can verify yourself how some people took snippets of third parties voicing their opinion and falsely accusing the Washington Post of having supported these ideas, while the Washington Post was just reporting and summarising the different views on Twitter!

 

 

Technology

‘Opening the gates of hell’: Musk says he will revive banned accounts

The Twitter chief says he will reinstate accounts suspended for threats, harassment and misinformation beginning next week

 

Published November 24, 2022 at 2:45 p.m. EST

 

 

Elon Musk plans to reinstate nearly all previously banned Twitter accounts — to the alarm of activists and online trust and safety experts.

After posting a Twitter poll asking, “Should Twitter offer a general amnesty to suspended accounts, provided that they have not broken the law or engaged in egregious spam?” in which 72.4 percent of the respondents voted yes, Musk declared, “Amnesty begins next week.”

 

The Twitter CEO did not respond Thursday to a request for comment from The Washington Post. The poll garnered more than 3 million votes.

The mass return of users who had been banned for such offenses as violent threats, harassment and misinformation will have a significant impact on the platform, experts said. And many questioned how such a resurrection would be handled, given that it’s unclear what Musk means by “egregious spam” and the difficulty of separating out users who have “broken the law,” which vary widely by jurisdiction and country.

 

“Apple and Google need to seriously start exploring booting Twitter off the app store,” said Alejandra Caraballo, clinical instructor at Harvard Law’s cyberlaw clinic. “What Musk is doing is existentially dangerous for various marginalized communities. It’s like opening the gates of hell in terms of the havoc it will cause. People who engaged in direct targeted harassment can come back and engage in doxing, targeted harassment, vicious bullying, calls for violence, celebration of violence. I can’t even begin to state how dangerous this will be.”

 

 

This is the second time in a week that Musk has used a Twitter poll to seemingly make a major decision related to the platform. On Nov. 18, he restored former president Donald Trump’s account after 52 percent of a poll’s respondents said he should do so. “Vox Populi, Vox Dei,” Musk tweeted, Latin for “the voice of the people is the voice of God.”

 

 

On that day, he also unilaterally reinstated at least 11 high-profile far-right Twitter accounts, including Jordan Peterson, a professor who was banned from Twitter for misgendering a trans person, and the Babylon Bee, a conservative media company. He also restored Project Veritas, a site that was frequently accused of misrepresenting events it commented on and banned “for repeated violations of Twitter’s private information policy,” and Georgia Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene’s personal account, which had been banned since January for violating the platform’s covid-19 misinformation policies and pushing violent and extreme rhetoric.

 

Green posted a photo Thursday showing herself and other right wing figures who have had their accounts recently reinstated at a dinner table with Musk. “Happy Thanksgiving!” she wrote.

 

Experts say that bots and bad actors can easily skew the results of a Twitter poll, and so basing decisions on one is irresponsible. “A Twitter poll can be manipulated, there’s nothing scientific or rigorous in any way about what he’s doing,” said Sarah T. Roberts, an associate professor at UCLA and faculty director for UCLA’s Center for Critical Internet Inquiry, who previously worked at Twitter researching content moderation processes.

 

 

“Before Elon took over,” Roberts added, “there were entire teams of people who did market and user research, who followed rigorous protocols established to conduct this kind of research. Suddenly, he’s running Twitter off of completely unscientific polls that are polling unknown people, and certainly not any kind of demographically representative swath of people.”

 

Many predict the restoration of banned accounts will help bring on the “free-for-all hellscape” that Musk had promised advertisers would not come to pass shortly after he took possession of the platform.

 

“This would be a major disaster especially in Africa where State sponsored Ghost accounts were suspended for endangering human rights activists & journalists,” Hopewell Chin’ono, a journalist in Africa tweeted. “You would have allowed vile people to put our lives in danger as journalists! You will have blood on your hands @elonmusk.”

 

 

Whether Musk can do what the Twitter poll seeks is a matter of debate. He has laid off leaders of the trust and safety team, which would normally handle the logistics of reactivating the accounts. And separating out those who “broke the law” is entirely dependent on whether Twitter has detailed documentation for each suspension. Without such a legal filter, which would be dependent on state and local laws for each tweet, every account would require a thorough review, given how laws vary widely by country and region.

 

 

Madeleine Burkholder, a senior technical solutions engineer who has worked on consumer products managing spam, said Musk’s ask is nonsensical. “Egregious spamming is not a technical term,” she said, and most record keeping at major tech companies doesn’t include questions of local governmental legal codes. The norm is to simply note whether an account violated a company’s terms of service, which are rules set by the platform, not a government entity.

 

“It gets really hairy to pull these threads apart and figure out what the exact behavior was that led to their suspension,” Burkholder said. “Was it an innocent mistake? Was it malicious? How malicious was it? … Doing that on a single case is challenging, trying to do it for every account ever, you’re guaranteed to make mistakes.”

 

Angelo Carusone, chairman and president of Media Matters, a nonprofit advocacy group and media watchdog, said that Musk’s decision could mean bringing back networks of individuals that include the American Nazi Party and “a whole bunch of 8chan, 4chan, conspiracy theorists who engage in harassment and abuse.” 8chan and 4chan are two message boards known for their racist and antisemitic posts.

 

 

Reversing the suspensions would mean “turning Twitter into a one-stop shop for operationalizing doxing and harassment, and an engine of radicalization,” Carusone said. “It’s a red pill Pez dispenser.”

 

And quitting Twitter won’t keep you safe. “Even if you’re not on Twitter, you can still be the recipient of these campaigns,” he said. He predicted that public health officials, election officials, journalists and teachers will all be targeted.

 

“Conducting major moderation and enforcement decisions on a whim is troubling CEO behavior,” said Nora Benavidez, senior counsel and director of digital justice and civil rights at Free Press, a nonprofit advocacy group. “Musk, under the auspices of democracy, is legitimizing decisions that will have deeply dangerous consequences in the real world.”

 

 

Benavidez said that organizations including Free Press have spent years educating tech giants on complex trust and safety issues and “pressuring them to understand the really delicate and complex role they play in mitigating harm caused to real people.” If “general amnesty” is granted for the majority of suspended accounts, “It will be open season for people suspended for hate, harassment, disinformation, conspiracies and extremism,” Benavidez said. “It’s open season in the most dangerous ways.”

 

 

“You have journalists, activists in authoritarian regimes in Africa, the Middle East, and Asia who are now even at the mercy of even more vicious trolls with no ability to fight back,” said Caraballo. “It’s literally life or death for people.”

 

 

The lifting of the suspensions was especially troubling to LGBTQ activists, coming just days after a mass killing at the Club Q in Colorado Springs killed five and wounded 18. Several of the restored accounts had previously been suspended for hateful rhetoric toward the gay and trans community, and Musk has been criticized for replying to Tim Pool, a right-wing YouTube star who falsely claimed the club had hosted a “grooming event,” and other anti-LGBTQ accounts.

 

 

“It’s a slap in the face to LGBTQ people,” Caraballo said.

 

But conservatives have largely embraced Musk and his decision making. He frequently engages with far-right influencers, such as Andy Ngô and Ian Miles Cheong, on Twitter, and has said that the company has propagated “far left San Francisco/Berkeley views.” In reality, Twitter’s algorithms amplify conservative content more than that of the political left, the company’s own research found last year. And, in 2020, right-leaning voices far outweighed liberals in driving conversations on influential topics leading up to the election, analysis by Politico and the Institute for Strategic Dialogue showed.

 

 

As Musk teases his reinstatement plan, trolls have become emboldened.

 

Far-right users of the message board 4Chan celebrated the amnesty announcement after encouraging members of the message board community to vote in Musk’s poll. On one thread, rife with slurs, 4chan users who said they were previously banned for telling vaccinated people to kill themselves, and making racist, antisemitic, misogynistic, and anti-LGBTQ comments, expressed excitement over the possibility of being reinstated. The users discussed resuming the activities that had gotten them banned. In some cases users said they’d had between 12 and 17 accounts removed for violating community guidelines.

 

“Superspreaders of hate, abuse and harassment will be the only people to benefit from this latest decision by Twitter," said Imran Ahmed, founder and CEO of the Center for Countering Digital Hate, a nonprofit focused on online hate and misinformation. “The choice for advertisers has never been starker: stick around and back Elon Musk, or protect their brands and ensure their marketing dollars aren’t used to enable the spread of hate, abuse and disinformation.”

 

 

In the days after he took over Twitter, Musk initially promised not to change the site’s moderation policies and restore accounts until after he’d appointed a moderation council. But more recently Musk has backtracked on naming such a council and has laid off hundreds of the Twitter employees whose job it was to police posts on the site.

 

Dozens of Twitter’s advertisers have paused spending with the platform in the wake of Musk’s takeover, concerned about how his approach to content moderation might affect the site’s tone.

 

 

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There is not a single piece wrong with this Washington Post article that simply presents all the different views on Twitter. Washington Post permits all different views to be presented in their detailed article.

 

Don't fall trap to 7heaven's manipulations in presenting untruths and manipulative posts copied from some twitter accounts that fail objectivity and misrepresent the facts!

 

 

 

 

 

 

[7heaven]

7 hours ago, singalion said:

 

Musk should be CEO but let the decisions on banning and other disciplinary measures be done by independent/ impartial advisors.

 

The fact that  Musk personally interferes shows how arbitrary his decisions are.

 

They are not based on any principles or internal rules but just his own stomach decisions.

 

You call this rules based?

 

What a joke 7heaven.

 

 

Just because Musk appear to make decisions to ban or unban twitter accounts don’t make the approach arbitrary. Reasons for banning or unbanning are given by Twitter under Musk as well. 
 

However, it is not unexpected the fuming activists suffering from meltdown will characterise his ban or unban decision as arbitrary. When one is overwhelmed with anger, he or she often loses basic ability to thinking rationally. Lol. 

[singalion]

6 minutes ago, 7heaven said:

Lol. In your haste to refute a point you know little of, the forecasts here were based on previous Twitter management, and before the activists started pressuring businesses to stop advertising after Musk took over. 

 

The first sentence of the article starts:

 

"Under Elon Musk ... and is from 2nd December.

 

Elon Musk was not yet CEO?

 

The point was on decline of users and not on decline of advertisers. 

 

Please try to persuade some people who don't have any knowledge but your won't trick us.

 

Once again this demonstrates your inability to accept facts.

 

 

Edited December 5, 2022 by singalion

[singalion]

22 minutes ago, 7heaven said:

Apple fortunately was courageous enough not to fall prey to the toxic cancel culture. It was great that Musk quickly met up Apple management to get the reassurance from them. 
Nobody needs to chain anything, the greater fear is the cancel culture perpetuated by their activists when big corporations refuse to listen to them. 

 

 

This is a mere claim from you.

 

Where is the evidence???

 

Do you have any substantiation to offer that Apple listened or even considered any such proposals at all.

 

Otherwise you are just fabricating things here.

 

 

[7heaven]

3 hours ago, sgmaven said:

Like I have said before, if Twitter was going to be "deplatformed", who would be responsible for pulling the plug? Is it the activists and lobbyist who have ultimate control over that "button"? No! It is Apple and Google (for Google Play Store), who will ultimately make that decision.

 

Rather than first check with these companies to verify whether they were really considering "deplatforming" Twitter, Elon Musk chose the irresponsible route of ranting on Twitter that Apple wanted to shut down Twitter. As it turned out, it was totally false, and Apple (according to his conversation with Apple CEO, Tim Cook) had never considered that action.

 

So, you have a billionaire, who acts irresponsibly according to his own whims, and you are claiming that he did the right thing by ranting about it on Twitter?

 

Talk about bias!

Like I have said before, there are too many irresponsible activists who are unable to accept the fact that Musk will no longer be like previous Twitter management who will accede to their demands, and because of that, they will desperately try to sabotage Musk and Twitter all ways possible. 
 

Pressuring Apple and Google to deplatform Twitter is their latest tactic, but Musk was smart and responsible enough to meet with Apple management to get the reassurance. 

So you have activists and media organisations who incessantly write hit pieces and attack Twitter and Musk just because Musk refuse to bend to their demands. Talk about shallow tactics! 

[singalion]

3 minutes ago, 7heaven said:

Just because Musk appear to make decisions to ban or unban twitter accounts don’t make the approach arbitrary. Reasons for banning or unbanning are given by Twitter under Musk as well. 
 

However, it is not unexpected the fuming activists suffering from meltdown will characterise his ban or unban decision as arbitrary. When one is overwhelmed with anger, he or she often loses basic ability to thinking rationally. Lol. 

 

Exact repetition of earlier posted post by you.

 

Are you falling back to your insane habit of repeating the same content when you have nothing to add?

 

The second sentence are just speculative claims.

 

What meltdown of activists? They are as vocal as before...

 

Do you, 7heaven, need to invent such narratives to comfort yourself?

 

 

 

 

[7heaven]

19 minutes ago, singalion said:

 

Oh come on.

 

Now you are twisting facts again to make some look as if you said something true.

 

Stop with your truth distortions.

 

Fact is and remains that Must tweeted first alleging Apple to ban twitter from Apple Pay before Musk approached Apple himself to clarify.

 

as usual you can just post your blatant lies.

 

 

Fact is Musk was warned by good samaritans that activists are up to new trick to try to pressure Apple and Google to deplatform twitter. 
 

These good samaritians are helping Musk to push back against these nefarious actions of these activists. 

[7heaven]

21 minutes ago, singalion said:

 

No. the Washington post tends to be a renown media that gives the word to all voices and published them.

And in this case, they allowed an opinion  asking for Apple and Google to deplatform Twitter to be published. 

[7heaven]

22 minutes ago, singalion said:

 

Lack of any substantiation.

 

Where is your evidence on your claim that user accounts have increased?

 

Are you talking of the 11 previously banned accounts that increased the number of users?

 

 

Musk doing a fantastic job in attracting new users contrary to what activists and media organisations try to say about his leadership. 

 

 

[7heaven]

18 minutes ago, singalion said:

 

 

 

 

as usual you are just a truth distorter and blatant liar:

 

Nothing of your posts corresponds with the true facts

 

 

Twitter may have lost more than a million users since Elon Musk took over

Estimates from Bot Sentinel suggest that more than 875,000 users deactivated their accounts between October 27 and November 1, while half a million more were suspended.

 

November 3, 2022

 

The firm Bot Sentinel, which tracks inauthentic behavior on Twitter by analyzing more than 3.1 million accounts and their activity daily, believes that around 877,000 accounts were deactivated and a further 497,000 were suspended between October 27 and November 1. That’s more than double the usual number.

 

 

Exclusive: Twitter is losing its most active users, internal documents show

(Reuters) - "Is Twitter dying?" billionaire Elon Musk mused in April, five days before offering to buy the social media platform.

The reality, according to internal Twitter (TWTR.N) research seen by Reuters, goes far beyond the handful of examples of celebrities ghosting their own accounts. Twitter is struggling to keep its most active users - who are vital to the business.

 

lol. Not sure which world you live in, but it is surely not 3 November in this world. 

[singalion]

2 minutes ago, 7heaven said:

Like I have said before, there are too many irresponsible activists who are unable to accept the fact that Musk will no longer be like previous Twitter management who will accede to their demands, and because of that, they will desperately try to sabotage Musk and Twitter all ways possible. 
 

Pressuring Apple and Google to deplatform Twitter is their latest tactic, but Musk was smart and responsible enough to meet with Apple management to get the reassurance. 

So you have activists and media organisations who incessantly write hit pieces and attack Twitter and Musk just because Musk refuse to bend to their demands. Talk about shallow tactics! 

 

These are just unsubstantiated claims and fabrications, 7heaven.

 

All what you write here resembles to these conspiracy theories and deep state nonsense.

 

 

If there is any decline of twitter, then it is Musk himself who has blame himself for his actions after take over of Twitter.

 

 

 

By the way, can you keep with the facts and don't always post falsities.

 

The initiative to meet came from Tim Cook from Apple and not from Musk.

 

 

Substantiation:

 

Rather than engage publicly, Tim Cook privately invited Musk to Apple Park for a meeting. Musk then took to Twitter to thank Cook for the meeting and tour of Apple Park, adding that everything was a “misunderstanding.”

 

 

[singalion]

8 minutes ago, 7heaven said:

Fact is Musk was warned by good samaritans that activists are up to new trick to try to pressure Apple and Google to deplatform twitter. 
 

These good samaritians are helping Musk to push back against these nefarious actions of these activists. 

 

This is your invention and fabrication.

 

Where is your evidence for your claim, 7heaven???

 

 

[7heaven]

14 minutes ago, singalion said:

 

The first sentence of the article starts:

 

"Under Elon Musk ... and is from 2nd December.

 

Elon Musk was not yet CEO?

 

The point was on decline of users and not on decline of advertisers. 

 

Please try to persuade some people who don't have any knowledge but your won't trick us.

 

Once again this demonstrates your inability to accept facts.

 

 

Try to read and understand beyond the first sentence. It helps one to be appear more intelligent. 

[7heaven]

17 minutes ago, singalion said:

 

Why starting again with your dumb, obsessive compulsive repetitions of earlier posted content.

 

Having one of your insanity relapses again?

 

The tweet by that Miller was misleading. just refer to the complete article.

 

The tweet is just a snippet of one side giving their arguments by leaving out the rest of the article.

 

At no point the Washington Post called for such actions, it was just quoting what others said for completeness.

 

Stop distorting the truth with your manipulative snippet tweets posted here.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

As is usual, once you are unable to refute a point that contradicts you, you will engage in personal attacks. 
 

Washington Post posted an opinion piece by someone who called Apple and Google to deplatform Twitter. Does Washington Post not vet the contents they publish? 

[singalion]

8 minutes ago, 7heaven said:

lol. Not sure which world you live in, but it is surely not 3 November in this world. 

 

 

Another of your blatant lies!

 

 

The acquisition of Twitter by Elon Musk began on April 14, 2022, and concluded on October 27, 2022.

 

Elon Musk became the owner and CEO of Twitter on October 27, 2022, after acquiring the social media company for $44 billion.

 

October 28, 20229:05 PM GMT+8Last Updated a month ago

Musk begins his Twitter ownership with firings

 

 

 

 

On 3rd November and 2 December Musk was already running Twitter.

 

 

You suffer some mental derangement to accept facts, 7heaven.

 

Edited December 5, 2022 by singalion

[7heaven]

16 minutes ago, singalion said:

 

This is a mere claim from you.

 

Where is the evidence???

 

Do you have any substantiation to offer that Apple listened or even considered any such proposals at all.

 

Otherwise you are just fabricating things here.

 

 

you just pandered your own narrative. There is nowhere said about Apple listening or considering any proposals. Even if they did, they rejected it since they told musk Apple won’t deplatform Twitter. 

[7heaven]

2 minutes ago, singalion said:

 

 

Another of your blatant lies!

 

 

The acquisition of Twitter by Elon Musk began on April 14, 2022, and concluded on October 27, 2022.

 

Elon Musk became the owner and CEO of Twitter on October 27, 2022, after acquiring the social media company for $44 billion.

 

October 28, 20229:05 PM GMT+8Last Updated a month ago

Musk begins his Twitter ownership with firings

 

 

 

 

On 3rd November Musk was already running Twitter.

 

 

You suffer some mental derangement to accept facts, 7heaven.

 

Again, another tip is for you to read beyond the first sentence of the first article before jumping to another article to find information to suit your own narrative. 

[singalion]

5 minutes ago, 7heaven said:

Try to read and understand beyond the first sentence. It helps one to be appear more intelligent. 

 

 

21 minutes ago, singalion said:

 

The first sentence of the article starts:

 

"Under Elon Musk ... and is from 2nd December.

 

Elon Musk was not yet CEO?

 

The point was on decline of users and not on decline of advertisers. 

 

Please try to persuade some people who don't have any knowledge but your won't trick us.

 

Once again this demonstrates your inability to accept facts.

 

 

 

 

Twitter Keeps Missing Its Advertising Targets as Woes Mount

Under Elon Musk, the company has cut its financial expectations as some advertisers request discounts and are offered incentives.

Dec. 2, 2022

 

 

 

 

[7heaven]

16 minutes ago, singalion said:

 

Exact repetition of earlier posted post by you.

 

Are you falling back to your insane habit of repeating the same content when you have nothing to add?

 

The second sentence are just speculative claims.

 

What meltdown of activists? They are as vocal as before...

 

Do you, 7heaven, need to invent such narratives to comfort yourself?

 

 

 

 

As is usual, when you are unable to refute a point, you will resort to personal attack. 
 

The meltdown is going in overdrive now that Apple has refused to deplatform Twitter. We should await the next tactic. 

[7heaven]

11 minutes ago, singalion said:

 

These are just unsubstantiated claims and fabrications, 7heaven.

 

All what you write here resembles to these conspiracy theories and deep state nonsense.

 

 

If there is any decline of twitter, then it is Musk himself who has blame himself for his actions after take over of Twitter.

 

 

 

By the way, can you keep with the facts and don't always post falsities.

 

The initiative to meet came from Tim Cook from Apple and not from Musk.

 

 

Substantiation:

 

Rather than engage publicly, Tim Cook privately invited Musk to Apple Park for a meeting. Musk then took to Twitter to thank Cook for the meeting and tour of Apple Park, adding that everything was a “misunderstanding.”

 

 

Do show us the substantiation that Apple CEO himself said he privately invited Musk instead of quoting from media organisations and also you did not provide any links to the article you quoted from. 

[7heaven]

13 minutes ago, singalion said:

 

This is your invention and fabrication.

 

Where is your evidence for your claim, 7heaven???

 

 

The substantiation has already been provided that good samaritans tweeted about people trying to pressure Apple and Google to deplatform Twitter. 

[singalion]

 

 

starting point, 7heaven's post:

 

44 minutes ago, 7heaven said:

Apple fortunately was courageous enough not to fall prey to the toxic cancel culture. It was great that Musk quickly met up Apple management to get the reassurance from them. 
Nobody needs to chain anything, the greater fear is the cancel culture perpetuated by their activists when big corporations refuse to listen to them. 

 

 

My response:

 

22 minutes ago, singalion said:

 

This is a mere claim from you.

 

Where is the evidence???

 

Do you have any substantiation to offer that Apple listened or even considered any such proposals [by activists] at all.

 

Otherwise you are just fabricating things here.

 

 

 

 

7heaven's reply to my post:

 

 

4 minutes ago, 7heaven said:

you just pandered your own narrative. There is nowhere said about Apple listening or considering any proposals. Even if they did, they rejected it since they told musk Apple won’t deplatform Twitter. 

 

 

Did anyone here see any substantiation from 7heaven or any facts supporting his claim?

 

 

Apple did not reject any proposal to de-platform twitter, they could not have rejected because they never had the intention from the start.

 

Stop creating your fictitious narratives of something that didn't happen, 7heaven!

 

 

 

 

[7heaven]

7 minutes ago, singalion said:

 

 

 

 

Twitter Keeps Missing Its Advertising Targets as Woes Mount

Under Elon Musk, the company has cut its financial expectations as some advertisers request discounts and are offered incentives.

Dec. 2, 2022

 

 

 

 

There is no point quoting from the first sentence if one does not read and try to understand the rest of the article. Lol. 

[7heaven]

1 minute ago, singalion said:

 

 

starting point, 7heaven's post:

 

 

My response:

 

 

 

7heaven's reply to my post:

 

 

 

 

Did anyone here see any substantiation from 7heaven or any facts supporting his claim?

 

 

Apple did not reject any proposal to de-platform twitter, they could not have rejected because they never had the intention from the start.

 

Stop creating your fictitious narratives of something that didn't happen, 7heaven!

 

 

 

 

Ironically where is your substantiation that Apple never had the intention from the start to deplatform Twitter? 

[singalion]

1 minute ago, 7heaven said:

There is no point quoting from the first sentence if one does not read and try to understand the rest of the article. Lol. 

 

 Lame response just to distract from the fact that you didn't even know the exact date when Musk took over twitter.

[singalion]

57 minutes ago, 7heaven said:

The substantiation has already been provided that good samaritans tweeted about people trying to pressure Apple and Google to deplatform Twitter. 

 

You are twisting your own words now!

 

You said that "good samaritans" warned Musk on Apple and Google deplatforming twitter.

 

We want substantiation for that.

 

Starting point from 7heaven:

 

1 hour ago, 7heaven said:

Fact is Musk was warned by good samaritans that activists are up to new trick to try to pressure Apple and Google to deplatform twitter. 
 

These good samaritians are helping Musk to push back against these nefarious actions of these activists. 

 

My response to that asking for substantiation.

 

1 hour ago, singalion said:

This is your invention and fabrication.

Where is your evidence for your claim, 7heaven???

 

 

 

 

Did anyone see 7heaven's substantiation????

 

He is just claiming that "there were good samaritans " who warned Musk.

 

But 7heaven did not present any substantiation to back his claim...

 

Does anyone see substantiation for that claim???

 

 

 

 

 

Edited December 5, 2022 by singalion

[singalion]

29 minutes ago, 7heaven said:

Do show us the substantiation that Apple CEO himself said he privately invited Musk instead of quoting from media organisations and also you did not provide any links to the article you quoted from. 

 

It is already obvious from the fact that Musk met Apple CEO Cook at the HQ of Apple.

 

Do you think Musk would just walk in to Apple HQ or does he need an invite to meet the CEO?

 

 

 

Cook invited him over to Cupertino to chat in person.

Thanks @tim_cook for taking me around Apple’s beautiful HQ pic.twitter.com/xjo4g306gR

— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) November 30, 2022

 

 

 

“I’m sure Tim charmed him,” the person said. “He wanted to hear [Musk] out. And I’m sure Tim gave his perspective. That’s what Tim does: he rolls up his sleeves and fixes problems. He’s not into big public disputes, whether it’s a PR dispute or something more contentious. That’s not his MO. He’s not like Elon.”

Apple cofounder Steve Wozniak

 

 

 

[singalion]

36 minutes ago, 7heaven said:

Ironically where is your substantiation that Apple never had the intention from the start to deplatform Twitter? 

 

 

From Musk himself!

 

Musk said the Apple CEO was “clear that Apple never considered doing so."

 

“Thanks tim_cook for taking me around Apple’s beautiful HQ. Good conversation. Among other things, we resolved the misunderstanding about Twitter potentially being removed from the App Store. Tim was clear that Apple never considered doing so."

 

 

Elon Musk meets Tim Cook, says Apple never considered removing Twitter app

 

 

 

[sgmaven]

1 hour ago, 7heaven said:

Like I have said before, there are too many irresponsible activists who are unable to accept the fact that Musk will no longer be like previous Twitter management who will accede to their demands, and because of that, they will desperately try to sabotage Musk and Twitter all ways possible. 
 

Pressuring Apple and Google to deplatform Twitter is their latest tactic, but Musk was smart and responsible enough to meet with Apple management to get the reassurance. 

So you have activists and media organisations who incessantly write hit pieces and attack Twitter and Musk just because Musk refuse to bend to their demands. Talk about shallow tactics! 

You are just turning a blind eye to the problems. If you hear that the police is about to arrest you, because Mary reported something. Do you rant about it on Twitter, without even first checking if it was the case with the police? No!

 

So, no matter what Mary does, she cannot arrest you. The decision lies with the police. So, why talk about Mary? Or why accuse the police of wanting to arrest you, without even bothering to fact check? And if the police had already thrown out the case that was presented by Mary, aren't you rumour-mongering then? Since the police was not even going to arrest you.

 

In the exact same way, Elon Musk SHOULD HAVE just called Tim Cook to check if the rumours that Apple was going to "deplatform" Twitter were true. Instead he went on to post about it, without a single shred of evidence to prove it. As it turns out, it was all fake-news and untrue. Isn't that being irresponsible?

 

Oh! I forget, @7heavenwill NEVER admit that Elon Musk took the wrong course of action...

[singalion]

1 hour ago, sgmaven said:

Oh! I forget, 7heaven will NEVER admit that Elon Musk took the wrong course of action...

 

 

Brilliant comparison that you put up to debunk 7heaven's fictitious storyline. 

 

7heaven will never admit anything and simply intends to invent "alternative facts" ( untruths) while attempting to make BW readers with less insight believe his inventions. 

 

Sure it was the dumbest move from Musk so far to tweet on unproven allegations on Apple. A good businessman would always have his intel to verify matters first before accusing other businesses of something. 

 

You could have made the example also of Musk alleging Putin having fired nuclear rockets and Musk tweeting on that prior to verifying whether it happened... 

 

 

 

Edited December 5, 2022 by singalion

[7heaven]

2 hours ago, singalion said:

 

 Lame response just to distract from the fact that you didn't even know the exact date when Musk took over twitter.

Go read the whole article repeatedly then perhaps you will understand.