amuse.ed Posted March 24 Report Share Posted March 24 Life is short. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted March 24 Report Share Posted March 24 Even you know also doesn't make any difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lonelyglobe Posted March 24 Report Share Posted March 24 Don't say money is not important, personally u got money can do a lot of things and as a country in SEA, u can also fix a lot of things...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted March 24 Report Share Posted March 24 3 minutes ago, lonelyglobe said: Don't say money is not important, personally u got money can do a lot of things and as a country in SEA, u can also fix a lot of things...... Now i have realise money is important than anything else, even important than kinship relationship. If anything happen, if you have money, you can help and save yourself. No one will be there to help you, even your so called close ones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guess Posted March 24 Report Share Posted March 24 58 minutes ago, Guest Guest said: Now i have realise money is important than anything else, even important than kinship relationship. If anything happen, if you have money, you can help and save yourself. No one will be there to help you, even your so called close ones. What happened? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted March 24 Report Share Posted March 24 Because we know too well by now that..... white can be the darkest color of all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted March 24 Report Share Posted March 24 Love sucks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted March 24 Report Share Posted March 24 Love sucks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amuse.ed Posted March 24 Author Report Share Posted March 24 11 hours ago, Guest Guest said: Even you know also doesn't make any difference. There is for me, I am only quarter done with my bucket list. Lol. JusteMoi 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amuse.ed Posted March 24 Author Report Share Posted March 24 11 hours ago, Guest Guest said: Now i have realise money is important than anything else, even important than kinship relationship. If anything happen, if you have money, you can help and save yourself. No one will be there to help you, even your so called close ones. Agreed. Better to enjoy financial freedom as early as possible. FIRE as the Millennium and Gen Z said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amuse.ed Posted March 24 Author Report Share Posted March 24 9 hours ago, Guest Guest said: Because we know too well by now that..... white can be the darkest color of all. Yes one of them is cloud. Ha! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve5380 Posted March 25 Report Share Posted March 25 20 hours ago, amuse.ed said: Life is short. Amusing statement... Time is relative. Short or long have little meaning. With a whole life behind me and now living on extra time, I don't find life short at all. JusteMoi 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amuse.ed Posted March 25 Author Report Share Posted March 25 5 hours ago, Steve5380 said: Amusing statement... Time is relative. Short or long have little meaning. With a whole life behind me and now living on extra time, I don't find life short at all. I am "just trying to be the mainstreamers and feel younger again" yet acknowledging that we are living in this chaotic world. The prelude statement meant differently to each and everyone of us. Cheers @Steve5380 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve5380 Posted March 25 Report Share Posted March 25 5 hours ago, amuse.ed said: I am "just trying to be the mainstreamers and feel younger again" yet acknowledging that we are living in this chaotic world. The prelude statement meant differently to each and everyone of us. Cheers @Steve5380 Cheers @amuse.ed, I wish you will, more than trying, feel steadily young again forever. With a lifestyle that preserves health and strength. Have a look at the thread "for gays who will be seniors one day". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted March 25 Report Share Posted March 25 On 3/24/2024 at 2:41 PM, Guest Guess said: What happened? Because lately when i have to move out from my existing place and need to find a place to stay temporary, those so called close friend and family members could not help, even some are able to help. In the end i need to pay expensive money for rental to tide over this period. Luckily i have some saving and still can afford to pay for the rental. If not i also don't know what to do. So all are fake, except money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guess Posted March 26 Report Share Posted March 26 8 hours ago, Guest Guest said: Because lately when i have to move out from my existing place and need to find a place to stay temporary, those so called close friend and family members could not help, even some are able to help. In the end i need to pay expensive money for rental to tide over this period. Luckily i have some saving and still can afford to pay for the rental. If not i also don't know what to do. So all are fake, except money. 😔 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
armed1983 Posted March 26 Report Share Posted March 26 Don't overthink Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amuse.ed Posted March 26 Author Report Share Posted March 26 20 hours ago, Steve5380 said: Cheers @amuse.ed, I wish you will, more than trying, feel steadily young again forever. With a lifestyle that preserves health and strength. Have a look at the thread "for gays who will be seniors one day". Everyone has different paths to take akin neither thumbprints nor footprints are ever the same. What works for B most likely won't work for A. The creator is fabulous, he made most of the population with creative minds and thoughtful hearts to choose what they genuinely need in life. : ) Thanks for the reference. I am reading it periodically. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amuse.ed Posted March 26 Author Report Share Posted March 26 9 hours ago, Guest Guess said: 😔 Looks like temporary affodable accommodation is the real issue here. Glad you have found a shelter over your head. Take care Bro. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amuse.ed Posted March 26 Author Report Share Posted March 26 1 hour ago, armed1983 said: Don't overthink tell this to a depressed person and they will say "try to be in my shoes". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singalion Posted March 26 Report Share Posted March 26 On 3/24/2024 at 1:30 PM, amuse.ed said: Life is short. the starting point was life is short and then people just talk about money? What culture is that? So life is just about money? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singalion Posted March 26 Report Share Posted March 26 On 3/24/2024 at 1:30 PM, amuse.ed said: Life is short. Life is short means also : Don't waste any chances. Go into a relationship when it offers, do the thing you want to do when you have the opportunity and don't keep it for later, don't miss the chances that are offered to you and delay with no real reasons. You might regret later. In particular, don't hesitate in my personal experience to enter into a relationship when it is offered to you. Those experienced or a bit settled in life know very well that such chances don't turn up often. Be ready to make a compromise and be ready to just go. Separation is easier than finding a new match later on... While I learned that persons can be very different to you, I was never reluctant into going into a relationship during the time it came up. JusteMoi and Steve5380 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted March 26 Report Share Posted March 26 3 hours ago, amuse.ed said: Looks like temporary affodable accommodation is the real issue here. Glad you have found a shelter over your head. Take care Bro. Thanks. Rental now in SG is not cheap, esp if you want a decent and good condition rental house. Unless you do not mind paying those low rental, and ended up sharing with few people in a room. This is why i said money is important than everything else. If you have money you can resolve problems. Let's say even i got serious health condition and cannot take care of myself, if i have money, i can easily hire someone to take care of me or i pay money to go stay in those hospice, no need to worry at all. However if you have no money and people around you don't want to help you, then really go die better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ted74 Posted March 27 Report Share Posted March 27 (edited) Money is everything - the hard truth But not everyone has enough or abundance Edited March 27 by ted74 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted March 27 Report Share Posted March 27 On 3/26/2024 at 8:59 PM, singalion said: Life is short means also : Don't waste any chances. Go into a relationship when it offers, It is not even that I want to troll this guy. But seriously, does he think everyone is as cheap and easy as him to just "Go into a relationship when it offers"??? No QC check? No understanding of each other? No nothing? And then just "Go into a relationship when it offers"??? This is how victims fall into love scams. Someone really needs to have his brains checked! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted March 27 Report Share Posted March 27 Because we know too well by now that we will see @Steve5380 and @singalion here on this thread as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Islandbreeze Posted March 27 Report Share Posted March 27 If I may share, in one of my favorite recent movies Everything Everywhere All at Once, the concept of nihilism was brought up. It basically argues that life is inherently meaningless. The protagonist Michelle yeoh was struggling to find fulfilment in her mundane life working at a laundromat. Eventually she chose to accept the meaningless of it but opts to find comfort in the choice she can make - to show love to her estranged daughter. What this shows is.. since nothing matters, why worry? You can do whatever you want. The stuff that we assign meaning to, matter. It's something easier said than done but no harm trying, to live your own reality. WesK_Sg 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve5380 Posted March 27 Report Share Posted March 27 6 hours ago, Guest Guest said: Because we know too well by now that we will see @Steve5380 and @singalion here on this thread as well. "We will see"?? We have been here already before you posted that. Are you blind? 6 hours ago, Guest Guest said: It is not even that I want to troll this guy. But seriously, does he think everyone is as cheap and easy as him to just "Go into a relationship when it offers"??? No QC check? No understanding of each other? No nothing? And then just "Go into a relationship when it offers"??? This is how victims fall into love scams. Someone really needs to have his brains checked! It is clear that @singalion meant "when the opportunity for a good relationship is offered". Most rational people detect an offered opportunity when there is something positive to gain with it. But you thought that "offers" means that a stranger comes to you and asks "will you be my boyfriend?" This calls for the question: what kind of stranger would be that? 😀 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amuse.ed Posted April 15 Author Report Share Posted April 15 Because we know too well by now that..... in reality life is never fair and just. yogateacher 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve5380 Posted April 17 Report Share Posted April 17 On 4/15/2024 at 2:18 AM, amuse.ed said: Because we know too well by now that..... in reality life is never fair and just. You are right. This is so because there is no concrete physical substance "fair" or "just". These are nothing but judgments passed by our minds, which change all the time. But we all have experienced fairness and justice. What you want to say is that "life is never totally fair and just". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amuse.ed Posted April 17 Author Report Share Posted April 17 4 hours ago, Steve5380 said: You are right. This is so because there is no concrete physical substance "fair" or "just". These are nothing but judgments passed by our minds, which change all the time. But we all have experienced fairness and justice. What you want to say is that "life is never totally fair and just". Imho it is dependable on the realm and system that one is under. Different states aspire differently and one knows by now that there are no cookie cutters to the 5W and 1H of the "constitution of fairness and justice". I still standby my point that life is never fair and just.... aside on a personal note i do remind myself to live my life similar to water - ever fluid and flexible as one journey the streams of water to the "dirty river" and out flows into the ocean where the temporary liberation will be at... till the water flows to another river or streams... till it gets evaporated. Hence the cycle continues... as one Chinese idiom states 生生不息 which means an endless process. With that, I am in greater peace. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Don't try me Posted April 17 Report Share Posted April 17 On 3/25/2024 at 3:07 PM, amuse.ed said: I am "just trying to be the mainstreamers and feel younger again" yet acknowledging that we are living in this chaotic world. Do what you think is best and within your capability and circumstances. When someone said they "try", it really gets into my nerves. Just like a snake said it will TRY to walk or an elephant said it will TRY to fly. Why should people even be trying at all? Because running short of time, or society influence? Who decide the time for you to live and die? Don't fall into the prey of someone TRYING to play and toil with your feelings and minds. So, stop trying to be something and start living. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amuse.ed Posted April 17 Author Report Share Posted April 17 1 hour ago, Guest Don't try me said: Do what you think is best and within your capability and circumstances. When someone said they "try", it really gets into my nerves. Just like a snake said it will TRY to walk or an elephant said it will TRY to fly. Why should people even be trying at all? Because running short of time, or society influence? Who decide the time for you to live and die? Don't fall into the prey of someone TRYING to play and toil with your feelings and minds. So, stop trying to be something and start living. "Trying" is form of me not threading the thin fine lines of that two extreme ends. I used to think in absolutes but realised it didn't serve me well over the years. Again just sharing from my experiences and hopefully it resonates with some people out there. Explaining myself is beginning to deplete my energy (if you get what I meant). Hopefully i need not explain myself further. It's either one gets it or they need more time and experiencs. Talking about absolutes here.... what an irony. Have a good week @Guest Don't try me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amuse.ed Posted April 17 Author Report Share Posted April 17 *** Turn on CC and transcript for English subtitles. @Guest Don't Try me, this is what I meant. Cheers! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singalion Posted Monday at 05:51 AM Report Share Posted Monday at 05:51 AM On 3/24/2024 at 1:30 PM, amuse.ed said: Life is short. The strange thing is that while life is short, people feel bored or older persons might want the life to end sooner than later. Why is that so? Isn't that a contradiction??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Short Posted Monday at 08:12 AM Report Share Posted Monday at 08:12 AM Is 80 years of life short ? Too many it's loong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amuse.ed Posted Monday at 12:46 PM Author Report Share Posted Monday at 12:46 PM 6 hours ago, singalion said: The strange thing is that while life is short, people feel bored or older persons might want the life to end sooner than later. Why is that so? Isn't that a contradiction??? Imho, through it all, there are at least three realms of understanding when it comes to a person's life fulfillment. People who wish to live to their short, shorter and shorest possible (life is short to begin with). That's the reason(s) why there were pre-matured deaths via accidents, misadventures and lifestyle mismanagement versus Longevity. Importantly is to cushion negative thoughts and adverse emotions which can potentially cloud and confuse, let nature takes it course and just be in the here and now when the appropriate time and moment arrives. Peace. Steve5380 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amuse.ed Posted Monday at 12:47 PM Author Report Share Posted Monday at 12:47 PM 4 hours ago, Guest Short said: Is 80 years of life short ? Too many it's loong. 60 is a good number for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singalion Posted Monday at 12:56 PM Report Share Posted Monday at 12:56 PM 6 minutes ago, amuse.ed said: 60 is a good number for me. You might feel different about it, once you achieved 60. haha If you have active parents, relatives, friends etc, who started something different with 60, then you might change your mind. The only problem I predict is, that with a certain age like 70s, health problems turn up, that render your life more troublesome... Nowadays, 60 surely is a number much too low. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Forever young Posted Tuesday at 03:21 PM Report Share Posted Tuesday at 03:21 PM Listen to this song to feel better Same singer in his older years Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve5380 Posted Wednesday at 12:32 AM Report Share Posted Wednesday at 12:32 AM On 4/22/2024 at 7:46 AM, amuse.ed said: Importantly is to cushion negative thoughts and adverse emotions which can potentially cloud and confuse, let nature takes it course and just be in the here and now when the appropriate time and moment arrives. Peace. Your thoughts are partially correct. We should improve over "let nature take its course" by, from the here and now, take steps to bend nature towards good health by applying preventive medicine, that is, good nutrition, plenty of exercise and sleep. It is in our nature to influence nature in our favor! On 4/22/2024 at 7:56 AM, singalion said: You might feel different about it, once you achieved 60. haha If you have active parents, relatives, friends etc, who started something different with 60, then you might change your mind. The only problem I predict is, that with a certain age like 70s, health problems turn up, that render your life more troublesome... Nowadays, 60 surely is a number much too low. But... why should one aim for 80? Now that I am 81 I realize that 80 is too low. I should have aimed for 90 or 100. Although since I went for 80, now I am living in an "extra" time, free of worries about the future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amuse.ed Posted Wednesday at 07:53 AM Author Report Share Posted Wednesday at 07:53 AM 7 hours ago, Steve5380 said: Your thoughts are partially correct. We should improve over "let nature take its course" by, from the here and now, take steps to bend nature towards good health by applying preventive medicine, that is, good nutrition, plenty of exercise and sleep. It is in our nature to influence nature in our favor! But... why should one aim for 80? Now that I am 81 I realize that 80 is too low. I should have aimed for 90 or 100. Although since I went for 80, now I am living in an "extra" time, free of worries about the future. Thanks for the reminder. I am working towards naturalism where it is the belief that nothing exists beyond the natural world. Instead of using supernatural or spiritual explanations, naturalism focuses on explanations that come from the laws of nature. If you haven't read, "The Cloud Diary" via Members Lounge is one of the few platforms I constantly remind myself that, by writing and penning down my thoughts. 😊 Peace. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amuse.ed Posted Wednesday at 08:08 AM Author Report Share Posted Wednesday at 08:08 AM 16 hours ago, Guest Forever young said: Listen to this song to feel better Same singer in his older years Like! Thanks Guest Forever Young. Used to just dance to the beat, now looking at the lyrics depiction, feel that, it's a harmonisation of being a idealist and realist (depending one's point of view). : ) Cheers! Forever Young - Alphaville Let's dance in style, let's dance for a while Heaven can wait, we're only watching the skies Hoping for the best but expecting the worst Are you gonna drop the bomb or not? Let us die young or let us live forever We don't have the power but we never say never Sitting in a sandpit, life is a short trip The music's for the sad men Can you imagine when this race is won Turn our golden faces into the sun Praising our leaders, we're getting in tune The music's played by the, the mad man Forever young I want to be forever young Do you really want to live forever? Forever, and ever Forever young I want to be forever young Do you really want to live forever? Forever young Some are like water, some are like the heat Some are a melody and some are the beat Sooner or later, they all will be gone Why don't they stay young? It's so hard to get old without a cause I don't want to perish like a fading horse Youth's like diamonds in the sun And diamonds are forever So many adventures couldn't happen today So many songs we forgot to play So many dreams swinging out of the blue We'll let 'em come true Forever young I want to be forever young Do you really want to live forever? Forever, and ever Forever young I want to be forever young Do you really want to live forever? Forever, and ever Forever young I wanna be forever young Do you really want to live forever? (Forever) Source: LyricFind Songwriters: Bernhard Lloyd / Frank Mertens / Marian Gold Forever Young lyrics © Budde Music Publishing GmbH, Kanjian Music Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve5380 Posted Wednesday at 01:00 PM Report Share Posted Wednesday at 01:00 PM 4 hours ago, amuse.ed said: Thanks for the reminder. I am working towards naturalism where it is the belief that nothing exists beyond the natural world. Instead of using supernatural or spiritual explanations, naturalism focuses on explanations that come from the laws of nature. If you haven't read, "The Cloud Diary" via Members Lounge is one of the few platforms I constantly remind myself that, by writing and penning down my thoughts. 😊 Peace. I started reading your thread "The Cloud Diary" in the Member's Lounge. I am sorry about your mom. 😞 and I empathize with you. I have a similar situation. Due to a stroke I lost my dad when I was a baby, and I wish so much to have met him! Now all I can do is to love him in my heart. Your belief in naturalism is very positive. It is logical that nothing exists beyond the natural world. Have you ever thought that what we recognize as "nature" is OUR nature? It is what we, intimately bound to our body, can perceive through the senses of our body. BUT... but could The Nature be more than OUR nature? Extending into other dimensions we don't perceive, and where the nature in OUR world is a subset? Modern physicists are entertaining conclusions that are baffling, like the "anti matter", empty space not being "empty", the warps in space by black holes, the flexibility of time, etc. In this way, we could conceive the Supernatural as more of Nature, inaccessible to us. And therefore, it can be for us no more than speculation, but possibly real. BTW... I also like the idea of "forever young". This is why I still carry "the child in me", ha ha. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Odd ball Posted Wednesday at 01:09 PM Report Share Posted Wednesday at 01:09 PM 9 minutes ago, Steve5380 said: Have you ever thought that what we recognize as "nature" is OUR nature? Don't expect our civilisation to percieve anything beyond their flesh. In the same way as ants are unable to sense the intellect of organisms outside of their own colony. I am different, because I BELIEVE. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve5380 Posted Wednesday at 01:18 PM Report Share Posted Wednesday at 01:18 PM 6 minutes ago, Guest Odd ball said: Don't expect our civilisation to percieve anything beyond their flesh. In the same way as ants are unable to sense the intellect of organisms outside of their own colony. I am different, because I BELIEVE. We are not so different. While you BELIEVE, I SPECULATE. I simply think that what OTHERS ( professionals of religion? ) want me to BELIEVE, are no more than THEIR speculations, or... inventions, ha ha. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Odd ball Posted Wednesday at 01:28 PM Report Share Posted Wednesday at 01:28 PM 9 minutes ago, Steve5380 said: We are not so different. While you BELIEVE, I SPECULATE. I simply think that what OTHERS ( professionals of religion? ) want me to BELIEVE, are no more than THEIR speculations, or... inventions, ha ha. Which is why I said I am different. Do you have difficulty understanding between "I" and "WE" in the above comments or do you still need to "SPECULATE" what I meant? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve5380 Posted Wednesday at 06:32 PM Report Share Posted Wednesday at 06:32 PM 5 hours ago, Guest Odd ball said: Don't expect our civilisation to percieve anything beyond their flesh. In the same way as ants are unable to sense the intellect of organisms outside of their own colony. I am different, because I BELIEVE. HOW YOU KNOW that ants cannot sense intellect and BELIEVE in their God, who looks like them? Did some ant told you so? It is not impossible that ants have also some intellect, with which the dumb ones BELIEVE and the smart ones SPECULATE. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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