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12 hours ago, Steve5380 said:

 

How can your government impose this absurd dictate that foreigners cannot attend a public gathering, and not deserve being called a totalitarian government?

 

We just had a "Pride Parade" in my city, where city officials from the Mayor down attended it with pride and drew the enthusiasm of the crowd...  imagine if foreigners would have been excluded!!  Nobody needed to check the ID of the thousands who participated.   I don't know any free country where places open to the public exclude foreigners.

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Because Foreigners in Singapore are not allowed to "interfere" with local Singaporean politics (in fact even with Foreign politics as the Pinoys were prevented to have a picknick on their national day). Every political expression by Foreigners in Singapore is not permitted. 

Some 15 years back it was stamped into the passport to all foreigners working in Singapore: "You are not permitted to give any political comment...". When Singaporeans asked me how I find Singapore, I responded: "Sorry, I m not permitted to give any political comment!"

 

The Singaporeans are scared that Foreigners will set up a demonstration because their own people won't do or are quite reluctant due to certain reasons.

 

Actually the whole aim is to avoid that foreign organisations/ persons sponsor local political parties. Could always be that some Soros type of person steps in. Putin is probably not supporting a Pink Dot event, his cyber masterminds, don't need to step in probably.

 

It is interesting to note, that the expression about homosexuality in Singapore is seen political.

Is it critic on government policy? that is a good question.

 

As the participation on the Pink Dot events in the past years increased the local government attempted to curtail the "participation". If I remember correctly, some locals were complaining that foreigners are participating.

Then, the government introduced police checks on the participants.

 

Some years ago (2 years?) the government even disallowed foreign owned companies to sponsor such events like Pink Dot. Any sponsoring must come from local Singaporean companies. The background was that plenty of MNC supported the Pink Dot (just google you will find the details). It was seen as foreign interference to Singapore politics.

 

What you need to know as well is that the Speakers Corner, where the event takes place at Singapore, everyone holding a speech must be Singaporean and must have a pre-approval to speak from the police. 

 

 

To add some flavour: Some years back after the SARS crisis, there was actually a demonstration by Foreigners in Singapore as 1000 of Indian workers gathered in front of the Indian High Commission to demonstrate for the payment of their outstanding salaries. Singapore felt embarrassed and the government quickly initiated new measures for Foreign workers to seek the authorities to assist in receiving outstanding salary payments from their employers. But the event was never labelled as a demonstration, whereas in fact it clearly was.

What happened was that local owners of construction / shipping companies ceased paying the salaries of their workers when business declined and the workers ran out of monies and some were left deserted in their dormitories (on that time it was normal that 80 over men were sleeping in one big room in double-decker beds in a big room).

 

Strangely, Singapore doesn't have any regulation on Singaporeans commenting on foreign politics or policies...

 

What you can do Steve is, to wave the rainbow flag at your place and post it to facebook. Just put a tag Singapore. he he

 

Probably, I can always write the chronicles of Singapore. ha ha

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11 hours ago, benedict5856 said:

 

We are happy with what we have now. Compared to other countries, where haters come in with machine gun at clubs and start shooting.....

Count the blessings....

 

If you intended to say that Singaporeans are less homophobic than Americans, not sure who will win.

For your info if you were referring to the Florida Shooting on the club, then you better read up the background. The guy was a gay in denial. (Many gays in denial turn violent as they start hating how they are instead of accepting what they are).

Otherwise please let us know to what country and event you were referring to. Thanks

 

If not your statement is quite inappropriate.

In many very liberal and tolerant or gay friendly countries you will find gay haters, even in Iceland.

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Only one gate to enter the premises? I foreseen there will be super long queue stuck at the entrance! Maybe long queue already started to form 1-2 hours before gate is officially open.

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3 minutes ago, Larry said:

Be prepared, is raining around the area. 

Rain now still ok cause it is still a long way to the lights formation. By the time it should have stop by then. I remember so far no rain during pink dot.

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4 minutes ago, Guest guest said:

Rain now still ok cause it is still a long way to the lights formation. By the time it should have stop by then. I remember so far no rain during pink dot.

God send a light drizzle to cool the weather so that Pinkies get to enjoy a cooling and fresh fun night. So Don't you guys worry about it.  HE told me that the drizzle is only temporary.  God is kind to us and hate the haters.  

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20 minutes ago, Guest Oh my LoRD! said:

God send a light drizzle to cool the weather so that Pinkies get to enjoy a cooling and fresh fun night. So Don't you guys worry about it.  HE told me that the drizzle is only temporary.  God is kind to us and hate the haters.  

This year Pink dot still will be hot and sweaty, same as every year pink dot.

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3 hours ago, West93 said:

 

And look at how corporatised Pink Dot/Pride has been in recent years. Serving more as an avenue for capitalist businesses to pink-wash their products and services to get business through acting as if they truly care about diversity or LGBT rights.  And funny thing about how LGBT people get a day a year for a big parade as a big middle finger "fuck you we exist" to heterosexual society, ostensibly to commemorate the history of LGBT repression and Pride today in being who we are, when the LGBT community at large is still facing serious issues of racist discrimination within its ranks (just take a look on how gay dating apps like Grindr still allow "no rice, no curry" overtly racist exclusions as criteria for ppl to put on their profiles). 

That's why I will never support Pink Dot/Pride events, not to mention some other personal traumatic reasons as well. Pride and Pink Dot as we know it today is just a Western invention, following Western lines and values whilst stupidly thinking you can just transplant that into any non-Western society without facing blowback or compatibility issues

 

A) On the grindr issues, you may have noted that it are mostly Asians who put up that what you call "no curry" statements.

I haven't seen many Westerners who put up something as "No Asians" into their grindr profile descriptions but you find a lot of this in Asia / Singapore in the profiles.

the Westerner will eventually write to you in a personal response message that he is not into Asians or Hispanics or "anything" but in the very vast majority would never write such exclusions into his profile description.

Anyway, why must Asians be so express: I would just recommend anybody to leave such things out of a

 

B) Your opinion of the comercialisation of any LGBT event by MNCs exploiting the actual purpose for own interests, I respect, whereas I find it laudable if such corporations step in and sponsor events. There is not difference if a MNC food manufacturer sponsors an event on healthy lifestyle.

Unfortunately, often in Singapore the commercialisation purpose overweighs the actual intention for such events because there are too many of such commercial sponsorings.

 

C) Western values

And Taiwan, Philippines, Vietnam or Thailand is not Asia?

My question is here: homosexuality is a pure Western issue?

the fight for acceptance, tolerance and non discrimination is purely a Western value/ concept and has no "value" in any Asian society?

Better think about it instead of wrongly labeling things...

For sure Pink Dot has a valid purpose in an Asian society as Singapore.

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Just now, Larry said:

The rain had stopped. Field is okay, not soggy. 

Field not soggy? I remember there was one year also rain in the afternoon, then the field was quite muddy at the tent area. So you are already there? Long queue?

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Just be careful of all the ants, earthworms, millipedes & centipedes that will be crawling on the grass field. 

Hope they get eaten by all the cocks...lol. 

Did anyone see a guy in see-thru pink lace shirt decorated with pink flowers? It seems like there are more fruit flies hanging around gays haha.

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2 minutes ago, Guest Jerrymouse said:

Just be careful of all the ants, earthworms, millipedes & centipedes that will be crawling on the grass field. 

Hope they get eaten by all the cocks...lol. 

Did anyone see a guy in see-thru pink lace shirt decorated with pink flowers? It seems like there are more fruit flies hanging around gays haha.

Every year sure to have some outstanding dressing among the gays.

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5 minutes ago, Larry said:

 

Only if you were Prime Minister Lee, he was invited but is in Osaka now.

Haha. Now they restrict the numbers of people getting in, you have to there very early to queue, if not even queue also cannot get in.

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8 minutes ago, Larry said:

Oh  no. Queue every year, and is happening sometime around 5pm for the late comers.  No number restriction, just check IC & metal objects scanning, same for all past years.  

 

Empty drum makes the loudest noise.

No number restriction? There was one year they stopped people from going in due to too many people inside. So many people are left standing outside.

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Wow lhw n his parents, n in laws r there.

 

So blissful.

鍾意就好,理佢男定女

 

never argue with the guests. let them bark all they want.

 

结缘不结

不解缘

 

After I have said what I wanna say, I don't care what you say.

 

看穿不说穿

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59 minutes ago, fab said:

Wow lhw n his parents, n in laws r there.

 

So blissful.

It is to be expected.  To discriminate us is to discriminate LKY's grandson.  They brought fame to our community and now other religious group either switch to support us or simply STFU for good.

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On 6/29/2019 at 7:44 PM, Guest Dotter said:

 

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I can imagine how HW n yr look like 30 yrs later.

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鍾意就好,理佢男定女

 

never argue with the guests. let them bark all they want.

 

结缘不结

不解缘

 

After I have said what I wanna say, I don't care what you say.

 

看穿不说穿

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7 hours ago, Guest okay said:

 

C) Western values

And Taiwan, Philippines, Vietnam or Thailand is not Asia?

My question is here: homosexuality is a pure Western issue?

the fight for acceptance, tolerance and non discrimination is purely a Western value/ concept and has no "value" in any Asian society?

Better think about it instead of wrongly labeling things...

For sure Pink Dot has a valid purpose in an Asian society as Singapore.

 

Well said!  

 

Homosexuality is healthy in Singapore, and so is education.

What needs development now is courage.

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8 minutes ago, Guest Guest said:

How come they are wearing the "SPONSOR" badge? The families supported the event financially? 

 

Y so shocked? Their wealth can last them at least 3 generations. 

鍾意就好,理佢男定女

 

never argue with the guests. let them bark all they want.

 

结缘不结

不解缘

 

After I have said what I wanna say, I don't care what you say.

 

看穿不说穿

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58 minutes ago, Guest I knew it coming said:

It is to be expected.  To discriminate us is to discriminate LKY's grandson.  They brought fame to our community and now other religious group either switch to support us or simply STFU for good.

 

If you are able to get a religious organization to STFU,  you must come from another universe.  Most probably they WILL HAVE to support LGTBQs.  It has started to happen in some Christian organizations,  and Catholics will have to follow too one day...

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19 minutes ago, Guest Guest said:

How come they are wearing the "SPONSOR" badge? The families supported the event financially? 

It is their money well spend, on social cause in the name of love and peace.  I believed they feel very rewarding.  LKY will feel very pleased that one of his children  did the right thing for our community.

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1 hour ago, Guest Guest said:

How come they are wearing the "SPONSOR" badge? The families supported the event financially? 

if you have the money and want to sponsor pink dot, anyone can also be a sponsor and you could also be wearing the sponsor badge. 

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3 hours ago, fab said:

Wow lhw n his parents, n in laws r there.

 

So blissful.

they are really blissful, not every gays couple can get blessing from their parents openly. Many even cannot get support and understanding from their straight friends.

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35 minutes ago, Guest guest said:

they are really blissful, not every gays couple can get blessing from their parents openly. Many even cannot get support and understanding from their straight friends.

If u are rich, everyone will come to support u including your anti gay distant relatives.

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11 hours ago, fab said:

Wow lhw n his parents, n in laws r there.

So blissful.

Call me shallow but the first thing that I notice was F/s nipples showing thru. :doh: Thanks for the support!

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5 hours ago, shyc said:

Call me shallow but the first thing that I notice was F/s nipples showing thru. :doh: Thanks for the support!

What about the see thru nipples?

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5 hours ago, shyc said:

F/s

 

父子?

 

人家有练过。

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鍾意就好,理佢男定女

 

never argue with the guests. let them bark all they want.

 

结缘不结

不解缘

 

After I have said what I wanna say, I don't care what you say.

 

看穿不说穿

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18 minutes ago, WheelofTime said:

Did anybody catch Prettipls’ performance of E8 last night? Damn funny lah! A bit sad that it’s all over now...after the high comes the downward descent..

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look forward to the next year pink dot.

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3 hours ago, JerryLaSouris said:

If you let your imagination runs wild, you will soon see the outline of his bf's xxxx.

Reminds me of those 3D magic eye illusions lol.

Oops.. thread is getting dirty, hope I won't get banned.

 

You think too much.

Anyway HW tee shirt is too tight.

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15 minutes ago, Guest Tight said:

 

You think too much.

Anyway HW tee shirt is too tight.

 

T-shirt is fitting.  Look at the shoulder area and arm, just nice. 

 

Surprisingly he's not as tall as hy.  Maybe take after the maternal gene.

鍾意就好,理佢男定女

 

never argue with the guests. let them bark all they want.

 

结缘不结

不解缘

 

After I have said what I wanna say, I don't care what you say.

 

看穿不说穿

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