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need some help here from the experienced guys here :)

 

started out trying oral and anal in 2023 (at age of 33 going 34, yes i know i'm slow...) the first few times was me as a bottom and with the necessary precautions.

 

recently met a guy and it was my first time to top a guy. After wearing condom, my dick started to get soft abit even though before i wore it, it was rock hard. managed to enter him but as time passes as he was riding me, my cock actually went soft and slipped out. after my cock was out, he removed my condom and jack me off to full hardness and brought me to orgasm and cum.

 

thought there was issues with me, he told me that I could be thinking too much and stressing myself out since it was my first time. 

 

wanna ask if this is common and how should i resolve this?

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17 minutes ago, sg_JHU said:

need some help here from the experienced guys here :)

 

started out trying oral and anal in 2023 (at age of 33 going 34, yes i know i'm slow...) the first few times was me as a bottom and with the necessary precautions.

 

recently met a guy and it was my first time to top a guy. After wearing condom, my dick started to get soft abit even though before i wore it, it was rock hard. managed to enter him but as time passes as he was riding me, my cock actually went soft and slipped out. after my cock was out, he removed my condom and jack me off to full hardness and brought me to orgasm and cum.

 

thought there was issues with me, he told me that I could be thinking too much and stressing myself out since it was my first time. 

 

wanna ask if this is common and how should i resolve this?

You will be hard, if you are horny and like to fuck. If you dont like fucking, other than seeking medical help, there is no natural way to stay hard during fucking. It happens to even seasoned tops, if they are just not that interested. If this is not your problem, you might have some other things in mind. If you are nervous, stressed etc or didnt focus on the bottom, it would be hard to stay hard. If there is any shortcut, pharmaceutical companies that make ed pills will go bust😅 Your mind just have to be in it, if there are no other issues.

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44 minutes ago, sg_JHU said:

need some help here from the experienced guys here :)

 

started out trying oral and anal in 2023 (at age of 33 going 34, yes i know i'm slow...) the first few times was me as a bottom and with the necessary precautions.

 

recently met a guy and it was my first time to top a guy. After wearing condom, my dick started to get soft abit even though before i wore it, it was rock hard. managed to enter him but as time passes as he was riding me, my cock actually went soft and slipped out. after my cock was out, he removed my condom and jack me off to full hardness and brought me to orgasm and cum.

 

thought there was issues with me, he told me that I could be thinking too much and stressing myself out since it was my first time. 

 

wanna ask if this is common and how should i resolve this?

All the porn movies you see are not real world stuff. They are either hung like horse and horny like a monkey or more likely they are on viagra (which is okay too). 
 

I am also a regular top and like group sex. Sometimes I can fuck 3 guys in a row (with diff condom of course), but sometimes just can’t get hard enough cos I am tired or stressed. 
 

I find that certain lube and condom turns me off (I don’t like sticky feeling), also if the bottom is very aggressive and not same rhythm also a bit turn off… 

 

Don’t worry about not being hard all the time, unless you are a porn stay needing to earn a living. 

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Jelqing helps...even how to control.

 

If you fit like me u got that extra edge....

 

Most use ixx or sniff popxxxx (recommend mostly for btms but tops also can use) 

 

And agree that lube play a part too. 

 

For me I play lots of roleplay toys sexy wear etc...in bed so both r hard hungry hungry hehe 

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my friend has a theory that condom makes guys impotent because it doesn't stimulate the cock head.

i agree too cause its the act of the cock head rubbing skin on skin with the other body that keeps the cock hard so that it can keep fucking and keep getting hard..

 

with condom, it dulls the sensation that you are relying on will power to stay hard.

once u go bareback u will really really enjoy .. thats what he told me and now he only bareback.. and its so risky

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29 minutes ago, Guest bareback said:

my friend has a theory that condom makes guys impotent because it doesn't stimulate the cock head.

i agree too cause its the act of the cock head rubbing skin on skin with the other body that keeps the cock hard so that it can keep fucking and keep getting hard..

 

with condom, it dulls the sensation that you are relying on will power to stay hard.

once u go bareback u will really really enjoy .. thats what he told me and now he only bareback.. and its so risky

 

On the other hand a majority of tops last longer with a condom on, which is often what bottoms prefer. 

 

There is no golden rule on condoms or no condoms. There are also those super thin condoms. 

 

I see the issue of TS under other factors... 

 

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3 hours ago, sg_JHU said:

need some help here from the experienced guys here :)

 

started out trying oral and anal in 2023 (at age of 33 going 34, yes i know i'm slow...) the first few times was me as a bottom and with the necessary precautions.

 

recently met a guy and it was my first time to top a guy. After wearing condom, my dick started to get soft abit even though before i wore it, it was rock hard. managed to enter him but as time passes as he was riding me, my cock actually went soft and slipped out. after my cock was out, he removed my condom and jack me off to full hardness and brought me to orgasm and cum.

 

thought there was issues with me, he told me that I could be thinking too much and stressing myself out since it was my first time. 

 

wanna ask if this is common and how should i resolve this?

 

You just have to release the stress on yourself to perform as a top. You're a human being... 

 

Best is not to think too much whether you maintain the hardness and get yourself more ready on the situation to top. 

 

Certain activity by yourself or your partner may help also to keep you hard. This you will need to find out. 

 

Maybe the position for him riding you didn't suit you. 

 

I guess you just stressed yourself too much. Relax n take it easy. 

 

Practise with an understanding and patient bottom. 

 

Experience is the key. 

 

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5 hours ago, Guest bareback said:

my friend has a theory that condom makes guys impotent because it doesn't stimulate the cock head.

i agree too cause its the act of the cock head rubbing skin on skin with the other body that keeps the cock hard so that it can keep fucking and keep getting hard..

 

with condom, it dulls the sensation that you are relying on will power to stay hard.

once u go bareback u will really really enjoy .. thats what he told me and now he only bareback.. and its so risky

 

Your friend is an idiot and makes you another idiot when you believe what he says. 

 

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Sometimes it could be performance anxiety as you had mentioned you were bottoming previously. Take time to build up your confidence as a top, and learn what is pleasurable to your partner so that it is an enjoyable experience for you both. Porn is good for reference, but what goes on between you and your partner is unique. So, don't over think too much about the process and focus on the experience. 

 

With regards to the condom, yes, it can cause a loss of erection for some guys. It is just a matter of getting used to it. You can practice masturbation wearing a condom to get used to the sensation. You can consider wearing a cockring as well to control the blood flow to help maintain the erection.  

 

One other solution, and it may take some research to find the product is to use a female condom, aka femidom. Unlike a condom which is inserted over the penis, the femidom is inserted into the anus. You can read the Vice article about it. While the author of the article enjoys it, I have heard mixed experiences from people who have used it. 

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Alot of guys don't realised they have ED. It's okay. The world needs more bottom to serves top who are born with extra hard erection. 

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6 hours ago, GachiMuchi said:

 

It happens lah. For a top, fucking the first time, I am sure, your mind will go wild and such thought might flash across your mind :

1. his hole so loose, I can't feel shiok,

2. his hole too tight, it is so hard to push my dick inside. use more lube.

3. oh no, i used too much lube, his hole so smooth now but i don't feel shiok.

4. oh, will there be shit?  what is the thing on the condom, is it shit? oh, shit, it is shit. Wah lao, he didn't clear his ass.

5. oh no, got shit and got smell some more. 

6. wah, this guy sitting on my cock, what if he cum and shoot on my face, or shit starts to dribble out from his hole,

7. oh no, i don't feel anything with my cock in his hole, i don't feel shiok. oh no, my cock going soft and it is slipping out from his hole.

8. jialak, i am tired, just now should not try too much pattern, now getting tired.

 

Luckily, your bottom is experience bottom, and knows what to do the save the situation.

 

i recalled a situation whare I met this really muscular hunky guy in the sauna and he was like my sky vegetable (天菜). and we both went into a room. I was so sexcieted and do everything on him. I told him I am top and he is ok for me to fuck him. I got more sexcited. but in the process for putting on the condom, and putting it into his muscular peach hard butt, I realised my cock went soft and no matter how I tried, I could not get my cock in. I more I can't get my cock in, the more anxious I got. until finally, I had to tell him that I was tired and I lied that I had cum earlier.  Then had to say sorry and clean up and left the room.

 

Wah lan eh, I kicked myself for not able to fuck him and perform so badly when faced with a sky vegetable. I stayed on and later found a really nice bottom who were able to suck me and got me hard, put condom on me and with any pressure or being anxious, i fucked like no tomorrow and had a really good fuck and make the bottom cry father cry mother and cum inside condom.

 

After this incident, I realised that the sky vegetable made me anxious to perform and I gave myself stress and think too much. which caused me to go soft.

 

So the take away lesson is, dun give yourself stress and just focus and fuck. 

 

Actually makes sense.. 

The few times I managed to top are those bottoms I don't have any feeling. Literally in mind I'm just going to stick my cock in their faggot hole and fuck them like they deserved it. 

 

I'm here to satisfy my cock. I don't care about foreplay or whether they enjoy. And I was able to stay hard and fuck... 

 

And those guys who I'm unsure or not sure or worried they feel pain or wonder am I big enough or hot enough for them I usually go soft too. 

 

Yeah so channel your inner sex demon and think about how you want to drive your hard cock inside their mancunt and how you want to fuck it until it's loose. 

 

Keep practising having this kind of thoughts. 

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4 minutes ago, Guest Hehe said:

 

Actually makes sense.. 

The few times I managed to top are those bottoms I don't have any feeling. Literally in mind I'm just going to stick my cock in their faggot hole and fuck them like they deserved it. 

 

I'm here to satisfy my cock. I don't care about foreplay or whether they enjoy. And I was able to stay hard and fuck... 

 

And those guys who I'm unsure or not sure or worried they feel pain or wonder am I big enough or hot enough for them I usually go soft too. 

 

Yeah so channel your inner sex demon and think about how you want to drive your hard cock inside their mancunt and how you want to fuck it until it's loose. 

 

Keep practising having this kind of thoughts. 

Exactly 

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Can more tops share their secret and technique? For education purpose? 

 

Cause porn never details those steps. They just show and create this illusion that it goes from blowjob, hard to immediate penetration with ease. One thrust and enter. 

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3 hours ago, Steve5380 said:

In my country, a "sky vegetable" is a rooftop greenhouse.  But... why would a rooftop greenhouse make one anxious?

 

 haha Steve is so childish again.

 

The first letter can stand for sky or heaven, so best translation might be heavenly gorgeous guy

I assume the heavenly vegetable comes from your favourite dish or most liked dish.

 

But GachiM is right. Often the other guy is just too gorgeous and our dream boy that we have a sort of block. Maybe the happiness feeling shifts your mind somewhere else and then your lil bro stays soft. haha

 

 

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37 minutes ago, Guest How said:

Can more tops share their secret and technique? For education purpose? 

 

Cause porn never details those steps. They just show and create this illusion that it goes from blowjob, hard to immediate penetration with ease. One thrust and enter. 

 

In my experience there is no golden rule. It depends on the situation, the partner, your own feeling, also if you are relaxed or under other stress things. Often in particular in Singapore guys rush you. The messages, that sort of "Where?" "When here?", "Where now?", "How long until reach?" can also annoy you to make you rush to the place until you are too exhausted already and lil bro lost mood.

 

Gachi M is also right in saying that some bottoms are too demanding, they ask you to change thousand of positions... in the end your lil bro just got bored and stays soft.

Keep position changes for a second round or another time or let the top propose the changes.

 

My tip to tops is: Just take it easy. If he doesn't want, so what. Don't force. And don't blame the bottom out of your self anger.

Have something on hand, that you know it will arouse you and the hardness might be back.

 

My tip to bottoms is: Be cool, and give the guy a second chance (either on the same day or any time later). Most important, on the spot don't talk about it. Comments such as "Oh, you're soft, not really hard", "why not hard" etc don't help at all but worsen the situation. If you got enough time, cuddle, rest a bit, in most cases after a short while boy will be hard again...

 

 

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I only started anal in my late 30s, and had to learn to be more selfish in bed, for me. If it didn't feel as good or the position wasn't working for me after a couple of pumps, I'd change it up. 

There are some go-to turn me on positions I prefer, so I'd default to that if I needed to harden up between positions, or if I wanted to get closer and finish off fast. 

Rarely, if the bottom was into it, and it wasn't tiring me (but not my prefered position) then I'd make sure they cum first during the pumping, then let them orally finish me off. 

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7 hours ago, Guest Sotong said:

Heavenly dish or another meaning he's so his type. His taste. Perfect match. 

 

Ah, thanks.  I am Chinese, but I have not heard this term before.  I really need to mix with better company. 😁

 

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On 1/14/2024 at 6:23 PM, Guest Staying hard said:

All the porn movies you see are not real world stuff. They are either hung like horse and horny like a monkey or more likely they are on viagra (which is okay too). 
 

I am also a regular top and like group sex. Sometimes I can fuck 3 guys in a row (with diff condom of course), but sometimes just can’t get hard enough cos I am tired or stressed. 
 

I find that certain lube and condom turns me off (I don’t like sticky feeling), also if the bottom is very aggressive and not same rhythm also a bit turn off… 

 

Don’t worry about not being hard all the time, unless you are a porn stay needing to earn a living. 

 

Agree with you totally 😁😁👍👍

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On 1/15/2024 at 3:00 AM, GachiMuchi said:

 

It happens lah. For a top, fucking the first time, I am sure, your mind will go wild and such thought might flash across your mind :

1. his hole so loose, I can't feel shiok,

2. his hole too tight, it is so hard to push my dick inside. use more lube.

3. oh no, i used too much lube, his hole so smooth now but i don't feel shiok.

4. oh, will there be shit?  what is the thing on the condom, is it shit? oh, shit, it is shit. Wah lao, he didn't clear his ass.

5. oh no, got shit and got smell some more. 

6. wah, this guy sitting on my cock, what if he cum and shoot on my face, or shit starts to dribble out from his hole,

7. oh no, i don't feel anything with my cock in his hole, i don't feel shiok. oh no, my cock going soft and it is slipping out from his hole.

8. jialak, i am tired, just now should not try too much pattern, now getting tired.

 

Luckily, your bottom is experience bottom, and knows what to do the save the situation.

 

i recalled a situation whare I met this really muscular hunky guy in the sauna and he was like my sky vegetable (天菜). and we both went into a room. I was so sexcieted and do everything on him. I told him I am top and he is ok for me to fuck him. I got more sexcited. but in the process for putting on the condom, and putting it into his muscular peach hard butt, I realised my cock went soft and no matter how I tried, I could not get my cock in. I more I can't get my cock in, the more anxious I got. until finally, I had to tell him that I was tired and I lied that I had cum earlier.  Then had to say sorry and clean up and left the room.

 

Wah lan eh, I kicked myself for not able to fuck him and perform so badly when faced with a sky vegetable. I stayed on and later found a really nice bottom who were able to suck me and got me hard, put condom on me and with any pressure or being anxious, i fucked like no tomorrow and had a really good fuck and make the bottom cry father cry mother and cum inside condom.

 

After this incident, I realised that the sky vegetable made me anxious to perform and I gave myself stress and think too much. which caused me to go soft.

 

So the take away lesson is, dun give yourself stress and just focus and fuck. 

 

Actually I have the same experience as you.

 

Many years ago, I met a real hot & cute guy & I couldn't get myself hard after making out with him.

 

Seeing him so hot & so cute thinking he's too good for me.. & that made me anxious to perform and I also think too much which caused me to get soft like your situation. 😥😥😥

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For me, it can be anything from being tired, being too used to a particular type of stimulus, losing the stimulus (e.g. wrong angle, being faced away, not hearing the feedback), being over anxious to make it good, or just suddenly losing interest (e.g. something the guy just said or did that was a major turnoff.) It's complicated, there'll be good and bad sessions. With experience you will get a sense of what works for you. Plus if you go in with an open mind, refrain from being harsh on yourself or your partner if it doesn't go according to your expectations, of course with cooperation from your partner as well, it will generally be at least somewhat pleasurable.

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Aiyah, I think hor,, we have issues maintaining erections. That's why we r gays. I mean gays are like this, can't maintain erections during lovemaking sessions n entering assholes is another issue too. 

Coz ,i notice many times those bi guys n str curious stay hard throughout sex session and cum late too.

What say u?

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thanks all for your valuable inputs :)

 

shall try to forget about the stress already although i must say the points @GachiMuchi said below were things i were thinking about haha :D

 

On 1/15/2024 at 3:00 AM, GachiMuchi said:

 

It happens lah. For a top, fucking the first time, I am sure, your mind will go wild and such thought might flash across your mind :

1. his hole so loose, I can't feel shiok,

2. his hole too tight, it is so hard to push my dick inside. use more lube.

3. oh no, i used too much lube, his hole so smooth now but i don't feel shiok.

4. oh, will there be shit?  what is the thing on the condom, is it shit? oh, shit, it is shit. Wah lao, he didn't clear his ass.

5. oh no, got shit and got smell some more. 

6. wah, this guy sitting on my cock, what if he cum and shoot on my face, or shit starts to dribble out from his hole,

7. oh no, i don't feel anything with my cock in his hole, i don't feel shiok. oh no, my cock going soft and it is slipping out from his hole.

8. jialak, i am tired, just now should not try too much pattern, now getting tired.

 

 

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On 1/19/2024 at 3:07 AM, GachiMuchi said:

If you worry that after wearing condom you will go soft, hand the condom to the bottom and let him put on the condom for you, then you don't have to fiddle with the ripping and putting on action and just relax while the bottom roll it down on your cock for you.

Most bottom will know what to do when you hand them the condom. They will be very willing to roll down the condom for you, some using their mouth and some can't wait for your cock to be inside their ass in anticipation.

 

Seasoned bottoms, will even lube themself and your condom cock and sit on it. Your job is just to take charge and drive your cock into them and hear them moan with Ah~~! then many Ahs and Oos later

 

haha that's what the bottom did for me, he did everything - from rolling down the condom, then lube my cock, lube his ass and sat on it... thinking of it just got me hard :D 

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On 1/20/2024 at 9:37 AM, sg_JHU said:

 

haha that's what the bottom did for me, he did everything - from rolling down the condom, then lube my cock, lube his ass and sat on it... thinking of it just got me hard :D 

for me, it is so difficult to unroll the condom, have to wear it like a sock.

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On 1/20/2024 at 9:37 AM, sg_JHU said:

 

haha that's what the bottom did for me, he did everything - from rolling down the condom, then lube my cock, lube his ass and sat on it... thinking of it just got me hard :D 

 

I honestly suggest if you want to practise to be better at top. Buy a box of condom at home and practise putting it on and keep staying hard. 

 

Its like driving a car. The first few time you remember the details. But once you get used to it... Its muscle memory. 

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On 1/15/2024 at 4:22 PM, Aikuchi said:

I only started anal in my late 30s, and had to learn to be more selfish in bed, for me. If it didn't feel as good or the position wasn't working for me after a couple of pumps, I'd change it up. 

There are some go-to turn me on positions I prefer, so I'd default to that if I needed to harden up between positions, or if I wanted to get closer and finish off fast. 

Rarely, if the bottom was into it, and it wasn't tiring me (but not my prefered position) then I'd make sure they cum first during the pumping, then let them orally finish me off. 

Sounds good. Will try this.

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On 1/22/2024 at 9:33 AM, Guest Practise better said:

 

I honestly suggest if you want to practise to be better at top. Buy a box of condom at home and practise putting it on and keep staying hard. 

 

Its like driving a car. The first few time you remember the details. But once you get used to it... Its muscle memory. 

You can have all the practice you can have but at the end of the day, practical is more realistic. 

If you go for those virgin or those newly bottom, they will not know what to do.

Only those seasoned bottom, with lots of practical training will know what to do when they see anxious new tops. 

My regular bottoms will know what to do, from start to finish. They will clean themselves prior to meeting up with me and they after foreplay, they will know how to react when I take out the lube. When I am tired, we will rest for awhile and they will help me remove my condom and clean my dick with tissue and will blow me until I am hard again and then help put on condom and let me enter them for 2nd round. 

So the chemistry with the top and bottom is important.

But all these are through a few times and after getting use to each other.

 

 

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