Kl Visitor Posted November 15, 2025 Posted November 15, 2025 3 hours ago, Mickey.Lois said: I din't say weekday more. Definitely weekend more people. But I prefer weekday as it is usually not overcrowded during weekdays. More does not mean better. And better does not mean more... True true. Thanks. I’m going today if anyone is going Brenn 1 Quote
covalent Posted November 15, 2025 Posted November 15, 2025 On 11/14/2025 at 2:13 PM, newbottomtwink said: Im a slim twink, do you think I would be well received there? would love to dabble a bit of fun in a sauna i think for twink market will be a different sauna. There's a post here someone shared a rough idea the demographic for each sauna. Can start from there Quote
Popular Post juicyass Posted November 18, 2025 Popular Post Posted November 18, 2025 On 11/12/2025 at 3:08 PM, RyanP said: Anyone have been changkra before?how about thr Do you mean Chakran at Brickfields? I am a frequent patron to Chakran and, if you are a brown-bear/chub lover, you are in the right place. The patrons there are 90% indians - some are pakistanis and bangla. You wouldn't be able to tell the difference til you talk to them. I was surprised when they told me they are bangla/pakistanis in the middle of sex. Anyway, you can hardly see chinese there. A few portion of malays but generally indians swarm the place. Peak hours is between 5 to 7pm. The place is just small. Both sauna and steamroom is just right opposite of each other. So if you intend to cruise like otot2 or kakiku, sorry to disappoint you, the place is just a small as a normal shoplot. But it has a open rooftop covered with dark shades, and an open air japenese hut where most sex takes place there with audience around. They also have 2 private rooms. Others are just cubicles with curtains. You can hardly find lean fit gym guys there. Most guys are out of shape, bear, and hairy. But most of them packing with big thick dick. So if you like BBC like me, that place is haven. The price for entry is RM30. It is quite easy to find but the parking there is a nightmare. I always arrive at 7pm on weekdays hence it is quite easy to find parking after working hours. All in all, it is down to your personal preference. IF you are into indians, that place is recommended. AndyDaddy, nawolibra, MalayMalaysian and 5 others 4 1 3 Quote
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rendezvous Posted November 20, 2025 Posted November 20, 2025 On 12/21/2024 at 12:11 PM, rendezvous said: Hi guys. I'd like to share my story. I used to frequent sauna in my mid 20s and am in my mid 30s now. I have stopped going to sauna for 2 years. I slowly got to learn that sauna is a place with really really bad qi (the Chinese call it 磁场/ people in the west call it "vibration"). I used to have a good career with good pay but things started to go south for some reason. I ended up not doing well and am now making ends meet. It wasn't until I learn that years of going to sauna and having fun with strangers have slowly reduced my store of good luck (or good karma) that I realized I wasted so many years of my life. When good luck runs out, bad things will kick in. The Chinese believe in the saying that 一衰衰三年, literally: once swei (bad luck) will swei for three years - it means bad luck can prolong for a long while and it's not a one-off thing. Even if we are doing well now, somehow bad things will happen - like strains in relationship, problem with superior etc. And we can pass off the bad chi after going to sauna to our family/friends too - energy is contagious. And when you make out with a guy in sauna who's going through bad luck himself, his bad luck/energy will be transferred to you as well. If you are going through good luck, you won't be affected much, but your good luck will be reduced. Once good luck ends, bad things really will kick in. Back to my story. I first went there when I was 25. It was out of curiosity. I never allowed anyone to touch me, as a part of me was telling myself that, well, I'm just curious. I remembered someone touched me in a steam room, but I pushed his hand right away. He then responded, "Oh, you are a newbie." I was. But then the more often I went, the more I felt lustful. I went to almost all saunas out there. From initially not allowing strangers to touch me, I slowly had the guts to touch them. As time went on, each sauna visit made me somehow a little bolder. It's called reinforcement in psychology. But unknowingly, it was like a drug. I got addicted. In hindsight, I realised my life slowly went downhill in terms of career success and financial achievement. Things spiraled as well. I went to sleazy massage places. And I had B2B massage as well. This just increased my lust and addiction. Can you see how scary it was? The negative spiral can go on and on and eventually ruin your life. Worse still, take away your life. You never know what kind of viruses you could get. I know people say, "Well, play safe, and that's fine." But the vibration/bad energy/swei energy will stick with you for a long while, and there's no way to shield yourself from it even though you play safe. Energy can be transferred, remember? It's physics. To anyone out there, particularly young people in 20s, please please please learn from my mistake. Don't let the best 10 years of your life be wasted and ruined in saunas. This is the most important 10 years of your life, and it can set the pace for your life for the next 30 years. Make it the best ones. Remember, you have a family who love you. PS: if anyone of you can read Mandarin, here's the story of how a guy's family and life went seriously messy after years of fooling around doing may crazy things to fulfill his desire : http://www.shengmiao.cn/bbs/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=68464 Hi guys, it has been almost a year since I shared my story. To my surprise, it was ranked as a popular post at the time. I thought I would like to share this post again, hoping that it would reach out to more people, especially youngsters like Gen-Zers. A wise man may not always learn from those with wisdom; sometimes they learn from mistakes made by other people and avoid repeating those mistakes themselves. It is my hope that you would learn from my mistakes and profit from that. lucheebye 1 Quote
juicyass Posted November 21, 2025 Posted November 21, 2025 13 hours ago, rendezvous said: Hi guys, it has been almost a year since I shared my story. To my surprise, it was ranked as a popular post at the time. I thought I would like to share this post again, hoping that it would reach out to more people, especially youngsters like Gen-Zers. A wise man may not always learn from those with wisdom; sometimes they learn from mistakes made by other people and avoid repeating those mistakes themselves. It is my hope that you would learn from my mistakes and profit from that. A very interesting take in energy transference between mens' interaction in Sauna. One thing true about what you mentioned is the addiction. Yes, going to to sauna can be really addicting. I have quit going to sauna for over 5 years, only last year I started going back to check out the scene again after out of commission for so long. Before I knew it, I was back to going sauna weekly, sometimes twice a week til today. The only justified reason is because Grindr these day is just toxic and men there are not looking for hook up but rather looking for prank call. At least Sauna unites all the men with sexual intention to have fun. Also, sauna/steam bath is good for your body in terms of health wise. Quote
amir_k Posted November 22, 2025 Posted November 22, 2025 Fresh M2M Taman Miharja was raided last few days. Not sure about Taman Desa and GlowBoy. Although the raid is by immigration and concerning their foreign workers, please take care everyone. https://www.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1151928680452089&id=100069049035302&mibextid=wwXIfr&rdid=EtYaKzEHyrLHc9aM# abgbotaq, 1potato2potato and MalayMalaysian 2 1 Quote
1potato2potato Posted November 22, 2025 Posted November 22, 2025 1 minute ago, amir_k said: Fresh M2M Taman Miharja was raided last few days. Not sure about Taman Desa and GlowBoy. Although the raid is by immigration and concerning their foreign workers, please take care everyone. thx for sharing - play safe ya'll! amir_k 1 Quote "KNOWLEDGE will be your passport to WHEREVER you want to go in the world." - Marco Pierre White "Taste. Savor. Relish." - Chef Slowik (The Menu, 2022)
CuriousGay Posted November 22, 2025 Posted November 22, 2025 Went to Herbalcony spa at PJ Taman Mayang. For my experience, the massage was not good for me as the pressure didn't meet my expectation. The interesting thing is, I was wearing my underwear at the beginning of the massage, the masseur took off my underwear forcefully during the process. And during the massage, he keep rubbing my butt cheek and slip his fingers to my butt crack. Second, when he massaged my back, he was kneeling on the top of my head which was his crotch exactly on top of my head. Luckily my head was facing down otherwise it will feel very awkward. Lastly, he keep touching my balls when massaging my inner thigh. Overall, the massage was bad compare to others which I massaged before. To my curiosity, is these actions consider a teasing from masseur? Thought Herbalcony spa is a legit massage centre. Quote
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Aikuchi Posted November 24, 2025 Posted November 24, 2025 On 11/22/2025 at 7:40 PM, CuriousGay said: Went to Herbalcony spa at PJ Taman Mayang. For my experience, the massage was not good for me as the pressure didn't meet my expectation. The interesting thing is, I was wearing my underwear at the beginning of the massage, the masseur took off my underwear forcefully during the process. And during the massage, he keep rubbing my butt cheek and slip his fingers to my butt crack. Second, when he massaged my back, he was kneeling on the top of my head which was his crotch exactly on top of my head. Luckily my head was facing down otherwise it will feel very awkward. Lastly, he keep touching my balls when massaging my inner thigh. Overall, the massage was bad compare to others which I massaged before. To my curiosity, is these actions consider a teasing from masseur? Thought Herbalcony spa is a legit massage centre. Wow, that sounds pretty bad. Feel bad for u I thought it was a legit place too, though some accounts of teasing. Although the newer personal reviews seem to be getting worse. CuriousGay 1 Quote
newbottomtwink Posted November 25, 2025 Posted November 25, 2025 On 11/22/2025 at 8:40 PM, CuriousGay said: Went to Herbalcony spa at PJ Taman Mayang. For my experience, the massage was not good for me as the pressure didn't meet my expectation. The interesting thing is, I was wearing my underwear at the beginning of the massage, the masseur took off my underwear forcefully during the process. And during the massage, he keep rubbing my butt cheek and slip his fingers to my butt crack. Second, when he massaged my back, he was kneeling on the top of my head which was his crotch exactly on top of my head. Luckily my head was facing down otherwise it will feel very awkward. Lastly, he keep touching my balls when massaging my inner thigh. Overall, the massage was bad compare to others which I massaged before. To my curiosity, is these actions consider a teasing from masseur? Thought Herbalcony spa is a legit massage centre. Who was the masseur? Even if people are looking for some hanky panky a good massage needs to be prioritised I feel Quote
juicyass Posted November 25, 2025 Posted November 25, 2025 On 11/22/2025 at 4:41 PM, amir_k said: Fresh M2M Taman Miharja was raided last few days. Not sure about Taman Desa and GlowBoy. Although the raid is by immigration and concerning their foreign workers, please take care everyone. https://www.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1151928680452089&id=100069049035302&mibextid=wwXIfr&rdid=EtYaKzEHyrLHc9aM# I mean, 99% of the massage boys are foreigners. Not surprised there. Quote
juicyass Posted November 25, 2025 Posted November 25, 2025 On 11/22/2025 at 8:40 PM, CuriousGay said: Went to Herbalcony spa at PJ Taman Mayang. For my experience, the massage was not good for me as the pressure didn't meet my expectation. The interesting thing is, I was wearing my underwear at the beginning of the massage, the masseur took off my underwear forcefully during the process. And during the massage, he keep rubbing my butt cheek and slip his fingers to my butt crack. Second, when he massaged my back, he was kneeling on the top of my head which was his crotch exactly on top of my head. Luckily my head was facing down otherwise it will feel very awkward. Lastly, he keep touching my balls when massaging my inner thigh. Overall, the massage was bad compare to others which I massaged before. To my curiosity, is these actions consider a teasing from masseur? Thought Herbalcony spa is a legit massage centre. Most massage centers like this are not exactly legit in the back. Of course, they would try to tease you a bit for extra service = extra tips. I have also been to a massage center which I thought legit. They have no male therapy, so they provide me a female therapy but I request thai massage therefore no skin2skin contact. towards the end of the massage she ask if I want extra service. lol. I said no. The only legit massage centers are those in the shopping mall. Quote
CuriousGay Posted November 25, 2025 Posted November 25, 2025 4 hours ago, newbottomtwink said: Who was the masseur? Even if people are looking for some hanky panky a good massage needs to be prioritised I feel The masseur named Ah Dee, checked from fb. I was hoping a good massage for my body pain, guess is not my day. Quote
CuriousGay Posted November 25, 2025 Posted November 25, 2025 3 hours ago, juicyass said: Most massage centers like this are not exactly legit in the back. Of course, they would try to tease you a bit for extra service = extra tips. I have also been to a massage center which I thought legit. They have no male therapy, so they provide me a female therapy but I request thai massage therefore no skin2skin contact. towards the end of the massage she ask if I want extra service. lol. I said no. The only legit massage centers are those in the shopping mall. I went to many massage centers so far, this is the first encounter of the hanky panky massage. Quote
Aikuchi Posted November 25, 2025 Posted November 25, 2025 8 hours ago, CuriousGay said: I went to many massage centers so far, this is the first encounter of the hanky panky massage. Personally, I experience the same. For the most part, most massage centers have been pretty professional for me (no ofers for extra services, male nor female), unless it was specifically a known establishment for notoriousness. Quote
singalion Posted November 25, 2025 Posted November 25, 2025 On 11/20/2025 at 11:48 PM, rendezvous said: Hi guys, it has been almost a year since I shared my story. To my surprise, it was ranked as a popular post at the time. I thought I would like to share this post again, hoping that it would reach out to more people, especially youngsters like Gen-Zers. A wise man may not always learn from those with wisdom; sometimes they learn from mistakes made by other people and avoid repeating those mistakes themselves. It is my hope that you would learn from my mistakes and profit from that. There is this saying : "Everything in moderation". I guess going to gay saunas should never end as an addiction. That thing about "bad karma" from sauna visits I find a bit exaggerated. Maybe you let yourself immerse too deep into sauna fun that you forgot your life around you. But not everyone is at risk to prioritise sauna visits to an unhealthy extreme. I see more dangers that very frequent sauna goers become less able for true relationships as they mistake sexual pleasure as social bonding and miss the ability to feel romance and love. What is more than healthy must be decided by every individual. Assuming more visits than about 3 a month might be prone to risking an unhealthy "downfall" and eventual addiction. But whats the difference of hosting sex parties every weekend to sauna visits? Or sitting 8 hours at gloryholes or frequenting cruising spots on extended hours? In the end it's just how you live your sex life. Watching too much porn can also turn into an addiction and make you forget your environment, less attentive to work, daily necessities or social contacts. Bad habits can start everywhere. As initially said: " All in the right amount and probably in certain moderation", will be the best. Truly, sauna going shouldn't be your full time social life activity. 1potato2potato and MalayMalaysian 2 Quote
lucheebye Posted November 26, 2025 Posted November 26, 2025 (edited) Thanks to the bros here who recommended Din for a great massage. Finally got the time to try him yesterday in Taman Melati KL. Don't expect a 5-star spa or MagicTouch spa ambiance, but his flat, massage table and towels are clean. It was a really proper massage that fixed my knots. Batin was included and culmination is upon request. I will be back when I need a really good one! His tele is @dinmsg0369. Feel free to chat/pm me any questions. Edited April 6 by lucheebye Typo hornychub 1 Quote
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QinWei Posted November 29, 2025 Posted November 29, 2025 9 hours ago, RyanP said: Anyone know otot 2 what happens?have police just now. This u mean?? & which region of our neighbour is this @ ?: https://www.facebook.com/share/p/1BxTftJNuj/?mibextid=wwXIfr 同性恋天堂座落在市中心秋杰路 am surprised no sporeNs?? “该中心吸引许多本地及外国顾客,包括来自韩国、印尼、德国及中国的男子。 https://guangming.com.my/警方破获男男天堂-逮捕201人-包括医生-副检察司-外交? Quote there are more than one option avail in googling me https://x.com/gnnbccb?s=21&t=WxsKRj9hm-pT2wyoEmonPQ
QinWei Posted November 29, 2025 Posted November 29, 2025 10 hours ago, RyanP said: otot 2 And what is this?? @abgbotaq, anyone knows?? Quote there are more than one option avail in googling me https://x.com/gnnbccb?s=21&t=WxsKRj9hm-pT2wyoEmonPQ
abgbotaq Posted November 29, 2025 Posted November 29, 2025 https://vt.tiktok.com/ZSfQbPStV/ here MalayMalaysian 1 Quote
QinWei Posted November 29, 2025 Posted November 29, 2025 (edited) 1 hour ago, abgbotaq said: https://vt.tiktok.com/ZSfQbPStV/ here tks ! wow what a Name OTOT2 the abv article named the area as Chow Kit teachers and docs too: https://www.facebook.com/watch/?ref=embed_video&v=809369845270180 poor thing what wrong have they done, none used drugs? Hope they wont get caned! Ryan U r abt to enter yet didnt? we in Sg only get to know the news a few hours from NOW and my reposting rate is 1 of the fastest 12 hours ago, RyanP said: Anyone know otot 2 what happens?have police just now. i didnt even know such a place exist! maybe i hardly KL or Msia https://www.google.com/maps/dir/OTOT2,+Jalan+Ipoh+Kecil,+Chow+Kit,+Kuala+Lumpur,+Federal+Territory+of+Kuala+Lumpur,+Malaysia/64000+Sepang,+Selangor,+Malaysia/@2.9581973,101.5014876,11z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m13!4m12!1m5!1m1!1s0x31cc48234a49d2c9:0x9860a81b44e4fdb2!2m2!1d101.6957902!2d3.1677331!1m5!1m1!1s0x31cdbf80d4a21211:0x982778bb67b5fa0b!2m2!1d101.7015569!2d2.7417476?entry=ttu&g_ep=EgoyMDI1MTEyMy4xIKXMDSoASAFQAw%3D%3D Edited November 29, 2025 by QinWei Quote there are more than one option avail in googling me https://x.com/gnnbccb?s=21&t=WxsKRj9hm-pT2wyoEmonPQ
juicyass Posted November 29, 2025 Posted November 29, 2025 1 hour ago, abgbotaq said: https://vt.tiktok.com/ZSfQbPStV/ here Last time it was a minor raid but it did not make it to the news. Unsure the reason behind this raid making it to the top news headline in every news platform. Rumor has it that is to divert the attention from the election and corruption case. Not sure what is the correlation. Anyway, I feel bad for the patrons. I am also a frequent patron to otot2 but I stop going there because of transport issue and the crowd is no longer how it used to be "mostly gym fit" but now more to "chubby and round" just like forest 52 (as you can see in video). I am genuinely surprised that it got raided after I saw the news in FB. I also saw some regular patrons in the news. I am also curious what is the motive behind all these raids now including m2m massage center. After years of operating, they decided to cleanse every corner of the nation. It is for now best to stay away from visiting sauna. I believe every other sauna like forest 52, kakiku, chakran etc are already targeted for next sting operation. It is just matter of time for the action to be ensued. Otot2 is the wake up call for all. Quote
QinWei Posted November 29, 2025 Posted November 29, 2025 i cannot imagine if I m arrested during an official business trip How do u explain? 2 hours ago, QinWei said: 秋杰路 all these names are so foreign to me , though i have made several KL official trips a real forest: On 11/28/2025 at 2:20 AM, ywhy said: 52 forest it sounded like a surprise: that Herbalcony can do that??!?? yet went to it not for those surprises If being violated should call the police is that why there are more raids NOW? juicyass: using gays able to divert attn from election, seriously?? i felt it s gays themselves felt violated and surprised by some actions in clean spa too (really that clean) [ CG even said he felt akward , not sure why though] hence some took actions 2 minutes ago, juicyass said: Unsure the reason behind this raid making it to the top news headline in every news platform. Rumor has it that is to divert the attention from the election and corruption case. On 11/22/2025 at 8:40 PM, CuriousGay said: Herbalcony spa at PJ Taman Mayang.. Thought Herbalcony spa is a legit massage centre. ... otherwise it will feel very awkward. ... Quote there are more than one option avail in googling me https://x.com/gnnbccb?s=21&t=WxsKRj9hm-pT2wyoEmonPQ
Balestier Posted November 29, 2025 Posted November 29, 2025 12 hours ago, RyanP said: Anyone know otot 2 what happens?have police just now. https://www.nst.com.my/news/nation/2025/11/1325426/gay-chow-kit-sauna-raid-nets-201-including-doctor-escaping-traffic-heal?fbclid=Iwb21leAOXOqxjbGNrA5c6p2V4dG4DYWVtAjExAHNydGMGYXBwX2lkDDM1MDY4NTUzMTcyOAABHpXKl4l2cgyYFdXh6QkDMU9RV0WToUJ5oMmtGZ_BPaYyDpPmUwzYIM-Zm0LZ_aem_j65dFnfPQHP31yQjLSWB-A&utm_medium=comments&utm_source=facebook Quote
QinWei Posted November 29, 2025 Posted November 29, 2025 tks for sharing original article! will the online platform get POFMA: how can they teach immorals to teens 'A 19-year-old youth was also among those arrested. He admitted learning about the place from a friend and was intrigued to visit after reading online reviews' poor workers also get arrested: just cos of such acts? "seven employees were detained in the raid on the premises, which was allegedly used as a meeting place for men to engage in immoral acts" 5 minutes ago, Balestier said: https://www.nst.com.my/news/nation/2025/11/1325426/gay-chow-kit-sauna-raid-nets-201-including-doctor-escaping-traffic-heal?fbclid=Iwb21leAOXOqxjbGNrA5c6p2V4dG4DYWVtAjExAHNydGMGYXBwX2lkDDM1MDY4NTUzMTcyOAABHpXKl4l2cgyYFdXh6QkDMU9RV0WToUJ5oMmtGZ_BPaYyDpPmUwzYIM-Zm0LZ_aem_j65dFnfPQHP31yQjLSWB-A&utm_medium=comments&utm_source=facebook bled somemore readers obviously know what is this for: https://www.facebook.com/GuangMingDaily/posts/pfbid02L1AaDtGpKcGS2Hkg5goqHFJopgnq8diHv22yfyDSMNnJzazPti4jhJygJ7Y7PDWZl Quote there are more than one option avail in googling me https://x.com/gnnbccb?s=21&t=WxsKRj9hm-pT2wyoEmonPQ
RyanP Posted November 29, 2025 Posted November 29, 2025 3 hours ago, QinWei said: This u mean?? & which region of our neighbour is this @ ?: https://www.facebook.com/share/p/1BxTftJNuj/?mibextid=wwXIfr 同性恋天堂座落在市中心秋杰路 am surprised no sporeNs?? “该中心吸引许多本地及外国顾客,包括来自韩国、印尼、德国及中国的男子。 https://guangming.com.my/警方破获男男天堂-逮捕201人-包括医生-副检察司-外交? No,yesterday I just saw a group chat,have ppl say dun go otot.have polis,I just asking here anyone know what happens.this morning already news come out QinWei 1 Quote
MalayMalaysian Posted November 29, 2025 Posted November 29, 2025 This is shocking... I always thought Otot2 is safe because maybe authorities are ok with a few gay establishments in KL as long they don't grow too many or become too public. In the video interview shared above, the police spokesperson said Otot2 has been operating for 8 months now which is definitely not true since they have been there for ages. I guess everyone should stay away from popular gay places for awhile just to be safe. Looking at recent trends, police tend to do operations like these during year ends, probably to achieve some kind of KPIs. Really hope those arrested will be ok... They might be charged for doing homosexual activities but just simply being in Otot2 and even caught with condoms and lubes are not enough evidence according to my friends who studied law. amir_k and juicyass 2 Quote
covalent Posted November 29, 2025 Posted November 29, 2025 There must be some kind of triggers.. be it like someone said year end KPI, or any political notices. Hope those arrested will be ok. Sigh Quote
Popular Post Bighands00 Posted November 29, 2025 Popular Post Posted November 29, 2025 Otot sauna in Kuala Lumpur has just been raided. Here is the information I copied from Pang Khee Teik, gay activist in KL, that might be helpful for those detained in the raid. I'm posting other links relevant in the comments below: "URGENT: If you or someone you know has been detained in this raid. This happened last night. There will be a lot of very bad coverage on this. Some people might even lose jobs if they are exposed. Politicians are likely to use this to score points against Madani. There's a typo in the article. I think they meant to say the arrested will be charged with 377b, not 387b. 377b is the clause that indicated punishment for "unnatural sex". But there's a high burden of proof for 377, they need to catch them in the act. So it is important that none of them confess to anything. For the moment I think those who have been arrested might have access to phone. We are already in touch with a couple of them. If you have a friend who has been arrested, please pass the following message: 1. Reach out to a lawyer or activist they know immediately. A few lawyers and activists are also on their way there. We are also trying to find Syariah lawyers. 2. If they don't know any lawyer and cannot reach out to anyone there, ask them to pass their IC number and phone number to you, and grant you permission to share with us. Please make sure you don't share their details in the comment; do PM me instead. 3. Tell them to plead NOT GUILTY to anything. 4. Tell them they are not obliged to answer questions like what they are doing there and if they were having sex. Below is a guide on what they can answer and what they shouldn't. Individual information (that you can answer to police) such as: i. Name , address (as per IC, even though you may no longer living there) ps; if ic address is parent's address, and you have concern, can give your resident address ii. Father's name iii. How many siblings iv. Your education level The above is also useful for any of you if you are ever in this situation. 5. Ask them to get each others phone numbers so they can stay in touch after they are released. It will help us reach more of them with legal assistance. 6. Remind each other they have rights and their rights are being violated by the police and media right now. Ask them to stay calm and support each other. 7. After they are released, they might need legal and mental health support. Ask to reach out please. Here are three contacts: PT Foundation: Ptf@ptfmalaysia.org JEJAKA: careline@jejaka.org PLUHO: general@pluho.org 8. For those of us who are not arrested, we might still be affected by this news. Reach out if need support too. Help is on the way." juicyass, TigerYam, MalayMalaysian and 2 others 5 Quote
QinWei Posted November 29, 2025 Posted November 29, 2025 1 hour ago, MalayMalaysian said: In the video interview shared above, the police spokesperson said Otot2 has been operating for 8 months now which is definitely not true since they have been there for ages. although i m not sure how true trust me the Police meant to say been op for 8mths as they have recve complaints for past 8mths!!!! if the police is saying OTOT2 has been around for 8yrs w immorals, and they did NOTHING, they are getting slaps soon! Covalent is right: 55 minutes ago, covalent said: must be some kind of triggers.. be it like someone said year end KPI, or any political notices. Hope those arrested will be ok. Sigh nowhere is safe! the safest place is the MORE dangerous place infact: 1 hour ago, MalayMalaysian said: always thought Otot2 is safe everyone should stay away from popular gay places for awhile just to be safe. & amir shared that the other sauna also gotten raided: Quote there are more than one option avail in googling me https://x.com/gnnbccb?s=21&t=WxsKRj9hm-pT2wyoEmonPQ
ywhy Posted November 29, 2025 Posted November 29, 2025 I read the news just now.Very scar me.I went to kl gay sauna on this Thursday.Lucky I no include.Be careful.I decided to cancel my next plan.Little sad. Quote
QinWei Posted November 29, 2025 Posted November 29, 2025 27 minutes ago, ywhy said: I read the news just now.Very scar me.I went to kl gay sauna on this Thursday.Lucky I no include.Be careful.I decided to cancel my next plan.Little sad. i cannot imagine all of ur faces in the report I trust it is the society you are in, such immorals not acceptable? it took me very long to realise Sg has saunas too, i alwys tot Sg is strict! i got a shock there are so many in sg and i only started exploring in late 30s they even intvw them ?? if not how do they even KNOW: youth was a 46yo man? and it is 2nd and not 20th visits? and the frequencies? 3 hours ago, QinWei said: At the time of his arrest, the youth was with a 46-year-old man and said it was his second visit. "This place is quite popular. I first came here two weeks ago and spent about three hours. At first, I just wanted to try it out but ended up getting hooked," he said. A foreign tourist in his 40s also admitted visiting the premises after reading positive comments on social media but claimed he was unaware the activities there were illegal. 'A 19-year-old youth was also among those arrested. He admitted learning about the place from a friend and was intrigued to visit after reading online reviews' but how do you know so much and searching? 1 hour ago, Bighands00 said: We are also trying to find Syariah lawyers. 3. Tell them to plead NOT GUILTY to anything. ..... it said many lawyers and docs etc and High SES inside visited too Quote there are more than one option avail in googling me https://x.com/gnnbccb?s=21&t=WxsKRj9hm-pT2wyoEmonPQ
MalayMalaysian Posted November 29, 2025 Posted November 29, 2025 Otot2 currently being review-bombed by homophobes on Google Maps Quote
Greenie Posted November 29, 2025 Posted November 29, 2025 Saw the news then came over this forum to see any reaction and some of you are early. The article did mentioned due to public complaint, so likely thats the trigger that the police had to do something. Maybe the public complaint report bypass those usual police that patron the area. In Malaysia you will be shamed for this. Quote
QinWei Posted November 29, 2025 Posted November 29, 2025 1 hour ago, MalayMalaysian said: Otot2 currently being review-bombed by homophobes on Google Maps i assumed even ladies and haters as well as straight hetereosexuals have come over to comment based on your sharing? O dear but why?? Quote there are more than one option avail in googling me https://x.com/gnnbccb?s=21&t=WxsKRj9hm-pT2wyoEmonPQ
chubbylover Posted November 29, 2025 Posted November 29, 2025 1 hour ago, Greenie said: Saw the news then came over this forum to see any reaction and some of you are early. The article did mentioned due to public complaint, so likely thats the trigger that the police had to do something. Maybe the public complaint report bypass those usual police that patron the area. In Malaysia you will be shamed for this. There is no public complaint, probably the owner refused to pay the local police coffee money and other fringe benefits so kena targeted...sauna owners are getting increasingly tired and frustrated over the year, evident by the closure of a highly popular sauna since years back Quote
juicyass Posted November 29, 2025 Posted November 29, 2025 7 minutes ago, chubbylover said: There is no public complaint, probably the owner refused to pay the local police coffee money and other fringe benefits so kena targeted...sauna owners are getting increasingly tired and frustrated over the year, evident by the closure of a highly popular sauna since years back I also highly doubt there is public complaint about the sauna. since it is located at the far end secluded area and make no noise out from the premise and no signage existed. The public passerby would not know there is such place existed unless they are being told. Most likely this raid is resulted of sabotage. Also, one search in google for "gay sauna" , otot2 is the top link in the feed. Won't be surprised this forum could also be one of the triggering factor for the police to conduct the raid. Quote
Greenie Posted November 29, 2025 Posted November 29, 2025 (edited) 1 hour ago, chubbylover said: There is no public complaint, probably the owner refused to pay the local police coffee money and other fringe benefits so kena targeted...sauna owners are getting increasingly tired and frustrated over the year, evident by the closure of a highly popular sauna since years back okay can... you are sure its not, yet use the word "probably" after that. Its stated in the article its due to public complaint black and white. I don't see it any different from such article ie: https://www.reddit.com/r/singapore/s/e6BjtcvQzq and police eventually "had" to do something about it. I think you underestimate how muslim extremist is over there, from threatening to burn down Cadbury factory, and calling ban on malaysia pop idols/national swimmer for wearing sexy attire. Anyway this incident does not force the outlet to close right? It's merely targeting the "immoral" behavior. Edited November 29, 2025 by Greenie Quote
MalayMalaysian Posted November 29, 2025 Posted November 29, 2025 Source: https://x.com/NumanAfifi/status/1994782031608525174 boyonenotzero, RyanP and juicyass 1 2 Quote
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