Monkeypox Virus Discussion (Racist & Idiotic post will be removed)

[singalion]

On 7/30/2022 at 6:31 AM, PlayersGroup said:

 

Scientifically, this is false. The safest choice is not have sex at all.

 

Then again, with monkeypox, still false even if zero sex. For those who still haven't got the memo, it is not an STI. 

• Of the 13,933 cases where age was available, there were 84 (0.6%) cases reported aged 0-17, out of which 24 (0.2%) were aged 0-4.

(https://www.who.int/emergencies/situations/monkeypox-oubreak-2022)

 

 

But as you highlighted in your post and as I indicated in my various posts, even while monkeypox is also spread via sexual transmission, you can catch it by other means also.

 

Joining your friend after some soccer, badminton match to his home and sharing a towel (without any sexual activity) might be sufficient to contract Monkeypox. Maybe the close contact or any skin to skin contact (non sexual) might have been the infection cause.

 

Due to the close proximity of people here in Singapore, it will be in the near future that the virus will reach the community.

 

As the medical expert in that one Today article indicated:

 

Not having sex might reduce risk, but it won't reduce risk to zero.

If your bf has caught monkeypox and you are in his proximity, sharing bed etc, it would be a matter of days until you will be infected also.

 

 

Quote:

 

Apart from that, the spread of monkeypox is not just limited to sexual activity among homosexuals. The disease also spreads through close contact, which means that it is possible for the virus to infect people who have sex with people of the opposite sex and through kissing, for example.

 

This is further supported by WHO, which said that monkeypox spreads through close contact, such as face-to-face, skin-to-skin, mouth-to-mouth and mouth-to-skin contact. In an infographic put out on July 18, the international health organisation stated: “The virus can also spread from contaminated environments to humans, such as when a person with monkeypox touches clothing, bedding, towels, objects, electronics and surfaces.

 

“Ulcers, lesions or sores in the mouth can also be infectious, meaning the virus can spread through direct contact with the mouth, respiratory droplets and possibly through short-range aerosols.”

 

https://www.todayonline.com/singapore/explainer-monkeypox-not-gay-disease-queer-community-health-risks-1953656

 

[singalion]

Regarding the potential death from monkeypox there are different information.

 

Some said it could be 11% if the persons are untreated. The amount of deaths in Africa are much higher, the reasons unknown.

 

Making sense of monkeypox death rates

Lauren Vogel | July 27, 2022

More than 18,000 people across 78 countries have been infected with monkeypox virus since the global outbreak started in May. So far, only five people have died, and no one outside of Central and West Africa where the disease is endemic.

That suggests a case fatality ratio of roughly 0.03%.

Yet, the World Health Organization reports monkeypox death rates around 3-6% in recent years, and rates as high as 11% historically.

https://cmajnews.com/2022/07/27/monkeypox-deaths-1096012/

 

 

Spain confirms first monkeypox-related death in Europe

Published 29 July 2022

 

MADRID (REUTERS) - Spain reported its first monkeypox-related death on Friday (July 29), in what is thought to be Europe’s first death from the disease and only the second outside of Africa in the current outbreak.

 

Brazil reported earlier on Friday the first monkeypox-related death outside the African continent in the current wave of the disease.

 

According to a World Health Organisation report from July 22, only five deaths had been reported worldwide, all in the African region.

 

The WHO last Saturday declared the rapidly spreading outbreak a global health emergency, its highest level of alert.

In its latest report, the Spanish Health Ministry said 4,298 cases had been confirmed in the country. Of the 3,750 patients it had information on, it said 120 had been hospitalised – accounting for 3.2 per cent – and one had died, without providing further details.

 

A spokesman for the Health Ministry declined to give further details on the deceased person.

 

 

 

 

[singalion]

Hopefully this is not spoiling your weekend...

 

The article also highlights that this focus on Men having sex with Men was wrong from the start and distracting on the risks. WHO and the health authorities are again behind in their reaction.

 

 

Monkeypox is spreading fast. Now kids are getting it, too

 

Published 29 July 2022

 

NEW YORK (BLOOMBERG) - The widening monkeypox outbreak is sparking concern that the virus could spread among a surprising cohort particularly prone to transmitting contagious infections: kids.

 

Experts at the World Health Organisation (WHO) said this week that they are watching the potential for spread among children "extremely closely." Already, more than 80 kids across several countries have contracted monkeypox, largely through household contacts, the agency said in a media briefing.

 

While that's a tiny fraction of the more than 18,000 monkeypox cases around the world - with most concentrated among men who have sex with men - the prospect of community transmission is raising the spectre that the virus could establish itself in other populations, such as women and children.

 

The disease's rapid spread has prompted WHO Director-General Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus to declare the outbreak a public health emergency of international concern.

 

"It's likely that we will see an increasing number of cases transmitted in other social networks and settings" beyond male sexual relations, said Dr Jay Varma, a professor of population health sciences at Weill Cornell Medicine in New York. "No social network is self-contained. They all 'bridge' to other networks."

 

Anyone can get the virus, which is characterised by raised sores and sometimes causes swollen lymph nodes or other flu-like symptoms. Though its primary mode of transmission has been sexual networks, it can spread through other forms of contact.

 

 

Once someone has it within a household, it's especially easy for the virus to infect others through sharing clothes or towels, by touching sores or prolonged skin-to-skin contact like hugging.

 

Kids, constantly interacting at schools and daycare centres, may be especially vulnerable. As it is, they pick up dozens of viruses each year, including contagious rashes such as hand, foot and mouth disease, eliciting some fear that if monkeypox were to start spreading in child-centric settings, it could be hard to contain.

 

"It is inevitable that some kids will become infected and attend school while infected," Dr Varma said. "What we don't know is how likely it is that kids will transmit to other kids while in school, and, if transmission occurs, whether it will be limited to a few cases or cause a large outbreak."

 

Health officials from the US Centres for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) said last week that they're aware of two paediatric cases in the country. Another case has been identified in a pregnant woman who recently gave birth, said Dr John Brooks, the CDC's chief medical officer for monkeypox.

 

The good news is that there have been no deaths in the US outbreak so far. And by targeting the virus's primary routes of transmission and getting treatments to the groups most affected - right now, men who have sex with men - it's possible to prevent further spread within the community.

 

Still, US Health and Human Services Secretary Xavier Becerra on Thursday (July 28) stressed the importance of being ready for a wider outbreak, including by securing more access to vaccines. "Every American should pay attention on monkeypox," he said during a call with the media. "Monkeypox is not Covid, but it is contagious. It is painful. And it can be dangerous."

 

Historically, in parts of west and central Africa where monkeypox is considered endemic, paediatric cases weren't unusual. The first human case of the virus was a child in the Democratic Republic of the Congo in 1970, and past outbreaks have spread primarily through contact with infected animals.

 

And in those instances, severe cases occurred more commonly among children, according to the WHO.

 

 

During a 2003 monkeypox outbreak in the US, which stemmed from rodents imported from Ghana, paediatric patients were more likely to be hospitalised in an intensive-care unit than adults, according to a study published in the journal Clinical Infectious Diseases. Almost a third of the 37 confirmed patients were younger than 18, the study showed.

 

But in another large outbreak in Nigeria in 2017, only a handful of cases were found in kids. And according to one systemic review of case data from outbreaks that occurred between 1970 and 2019, the median age of monkeypox patients has actually increased from 4 to 21 over the last five decades.

 

The 2022 outbreak looks a bit different than past situations, with the virus mostly spreading by people touching infectious lesions or fluids during intimate encounters.

 

Symptoms are also distinct from the medical literature, with more cases presenting with sores that look similar to common sexually transmitted infections or rashes, according to a study recently published in the New England Journal of Medicine. The changing nature of the virus is making it more difficult to recognise cases, along with the potential effects for kids.

 

"Our experience with children is small, so we'll be learning, unfortunately, as children do become infected," the CDC's Dr Brooks said on a July 23 call with clinicians. "Those reported so far have been doing fine."

 

Anyone at risk

Dr Rosamund Lewis, the WHO's technical lead on monkeypox, said that so far most of the children with monkeypox globally have shared a home with other infected people, such as parents or guardians. But a few appear to have no epidemiological links, indicating infection from elsewhere in the community.

 

Regardless of age, "the message remains the same: Anyone who has household contact or direct contact with someone who has monkeypox may be at risk," Dr Lewis said.

 

Another concern is that monkeypox can be transmitted through the placenta during pregnancy and has been known to cause complications for a baby, including stillbirth.

 

Dr Brooks, from the CDC, said the pregnant US woman with the virus doesn't appear to have passed it to her child. The infant was given antibodies prophylactically and is doing fine, he said.

 

 

The commonly used treatments for monkeypox - Bavarian Nordic's vaccine Jynneos, and Siga Technologies Inc's smallpox antiviral medication, Tpoxx - can be used to treat kids when necessary, such as when they are at high risk of exposure.

 

In June, the CDC said it was figuring out the best way to use Jynneos in kids exposed to the virus. Health officials also told reporters last week that they were clarifying how to use Tpoxx in paediatric patients.

 

The US, however, currently has limited supplies of Jynneos available for use, and clinicians have had difficulty prescribing Tpoxx to patients since it is only approved for smallpox.

 

That makes it especially important for health officials to develop a plan for what should happen if infections spread rapidly among kids, Dr Varma of Weill Cornell said.

 

"Any situation in which an infected child visits school or day care will generate a high level of concern from administrators and families," he said. "It is critical that public health agencies develop protocols now for how they plan to investigate such cases, including contact tracing and testing."

 

 

 

[Guest Oh my]

On 7/29/2022 at 10:24 AM, Guest Aiyoyo said:

so much squabbling over MP. Put it simply, if guys cannot control their urges during this period, better have contingency plan how to face people when they get MP. closet guys will be outed immediately, like it or not.

A two month period of celibacy for all promiscuous people will bring an end the spread of the disease.

[Guest Guest]

wat abt swimming pool or even jacuzzi, can mkpox b spread thru such facility?

[dnalor20]

We should be trying to get vaccinated. 
 

Here’s info from CDC (sorry if it’s repeated):

https://www.cdc.gov/poxvirus/monkeypox/considerations-for-monkeypox-vaccination.html

 

I guess the issue now is that the vaccines are in short supply. In the SG context, maybe there ought to be a business venture with Temasek first before it can be procured? 

[Kimochi]

On 7/30/2022 at 3:21 PM, Guest Guest said:

wat abt swimming pool or even jacuzzi, can mkpox b spread thru such facility?

Likely yes, looking at the virus found in pools report :

 

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6352248/

[lonelyglobe]

On 7/30/2022 at 3:21 PM, Guest Guest said:

wat abt swimming pool or even jacuzzi, can mkpox b spread thru such facility?

I would say pool should be quite safe unless u happen to swallow monkeypox carrier'saliva or whatever fluid discharge from his body. If can so easily be transmitted,  then we wont have 11 cases now,  should be like covid cases. If really scare then dont go the best. 

[PlayersGroup]

On 7/30/2022 at 3:21 PM, Guest Guest said:

wat abt swimming pool or even jacuzzi, can mkpox b spread thru such facility?

 

Just take usual precautions, don't become paranoid. Cut number of random partners, avoid close physical contact avoid higher risk places like saunas, avoid sharing personal items. If still get it, with timely treatment likely won't die won't spread to others.

 

But to answer the question

 

https://www.nbcchicago.com/news/local/whats-your-risk-of-getting-monkeypox-from-everyday-activities-from-trying-on-clothes-to-attending-a-festival-heres-a-breakdown/2899148/

 

Depends if your pool or jacuzzi is well-maintained. Extracted paragraph below:

 

In a swimming pool or hot tub: Unlikely

 

Experts said the monkeypox virus is not waterborne and therefore the risk of spread through water in pools or hot tubs, particularly those that are well-maintained and clean, is low.

They cautioned, however, against sharing towels or poolside clothing.

 

Edited July 31, 2022 by PlayersGroup

[doncoin]

Well, my friend of mine just got vaccinated for monkey pox, and I am waiting for a slot to open to go get mine. Apparently, every gay person we know of is getting the shot. UgH!

[PlayersGroup]

On 7/31/2022 at 9:56 AM, doncoin said:

Well, my friend of mine just got vaccinated for monkey pox, and I am waiting for a slot to open to go get mine. Apparently, every gay person we know of is getting the shot. UgH!

Are u based in Singapore? It's available in Singapore?

[mate69]

I'll go get it soon as well. Can get it here. It's available where I am 

[Guest Guest]

On 7/31/2022 at 9:56 AM, doncoin said:

Well, my friend of mine just got vaccinated for monkey pox, and I am waiting for a slot to open to go get mine. Apparently, every gay person we know of is getting the shot. UgH!

Will getting vaccinated for monkey pox really can prevent from getting infected? Or it is like covid vaccine, even after vaccinated still can get covid?

[PlayersGroup]

On 7/31/2022 at 1:31 PM, Guest Guest said:

Will getting vaccinated for monkey pox really can prevent from getting infected? Or it is like covid vaccine, even after vaccinated still can get covid?

 

As with all vaccines, it is likely to reduce incidence and severity of disease. But it has its own risks too.

 

Information on the vaccines:

 

1. From US CDC

 

https://www.cdc.gov/poxvirus/monkeypox/considerations-for-monkeypox-vaccination.html

 

2. From UK NHS 

 

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/monkeypox-vaccination-resources/protecting-you-from-monkeypox-information-on-the-smallpox-vaccination

 

Edited July 31, 2022 by PlayersGroup

[Guest Why]

On 7/31/2022 at 10:24 AM, PlayersGroup said:

Are u based in Singapore? It's available in Singapore?

 he is in USA

[Guest Why]

On 7/31/2022 at 9:31 AM, PlayersGroup said:

 

Just take usual precautions, don't become paranoid. Cut number of random partners, avoid close physical contact avoid higher risk places like saunas, avoid sharing personal items. If still get it, with timely treatment likely won't die won't spread to others.

 

But to answer the question

 

https://www.nbcchicago.com/news/local/whats-your-risk-of-getting-monkeypox-from-everyday-activities-from-trying-on-clothes-to-attending-a-festival-heres-a-breakdown/2899148/

 

Depends if your pool or jacuzzi is well-maintained. Extracted paragraph below:

 

In a swimming pool or hot tub: Unlikely

 

Experts said the monkeypox virus is not waterborne and therefore the risk of spread through water in pools or hot tubs, particularly those that are well-maintained and clean, is low.

They cautioned, however, against sharing towels or poolside clothing.

 

great link - essential reading for all 

[stevechia]

I thought the so-called monkey pox vaccine is just the smallpox vaccine. 🤔

[Guest Why]

On 7/31/2022 at 7:33 PM, stevechia said:

I thought the so-called monkey pox vaccine is just the smallpox vaccine. 🤔

If you click the link that @PlayersGroup shared it is explained there. 

 

https://www.cdc.gov/poxvirus/monkeypox/considerations-for-monkeypox-vaccination.html

[singalion]

On 7/31/2022 at 9:56 AM, doncoin said:

Well, my friend of mine just got vaccinated for monkey pox, and I am waiting for a slot to open to go get mine. Apparently, every gay person we know of is getting the shot. UgH!

 

Count yourself lucky....

 

 

But in SGP the Gov said no "requirement" to vaccinate...

 

I think they will change the stance soon.... hopefully...

 

 

vaccination against monkeypox not recommended by MOH after WHO declares it a global health emergency...

SINGAPORE: The Ministry of Health (MOH) does not recommend the mass vaccination of Singapore’s population against monkeypox, Health Minister Ong Ye Kung said on Monday (Jul 25), reiterating the ministry’s stance on the viral disease.

 

 

In Europe/ US opposite, the governments call all risk groups to get inocculated...

 

Monkeypox: EU approves vaccine to combat outbreak

The vaccine by Danish biotech company Bavarian Nordic has already been approved for the prevention of monkeypox in the US and Canada. The decision comes a day after the WHO declared the disease a global health emergency.

 

WHO says more than 18,000 cases of monkeypox globally, most in Europe

Reuters 27 July 2022

 

The U.N. agency is recommending vaccination for high-risk groups, including healthcare workers, and men who have sex with men with multiple sexual partners.

 

The WHO is urging countries with stockpiles to share vaccine while supply is constrained, he added. It estimates that between 5 million and 10 million doses of vaccine will be needed to protect all high-risk groups.

 

https://www.reuters.com/world/who-18000-cases-monkeypox-globally-78-countries-mainly-europe-2022-07-27/

 

Edited July 31, 2022 by singalion

[sgmaven]

On 7/31/2022 at 8:37 PM, singalion said:

But in SGP the Gov said no "requirement" to vaccinate...

 

I think they will change the stance soon.... hopefully...

Isn't it similar to their stance with the HPV vaccine? Worse, if you go to the government website on HPV, all they address is cervical cancer risk and females!

[PlayersGroup]

On 7/31/2022 at 8:37 PM, singalion said:

 

But in SGP the Gov said no "requirement" to vaccinate...

 

I think they will change the stance soon.... hopefully...

 

SINGAPORE: The Ministry of Health (MOH) does not recommend the mass vaccination of Singapore’s population against monkeypox, Health Minister Ong Ye Kung said on Monday (Jul 25), reiterating the ministry’s stance on the viral disease.

 

I agree with MOH no need for mass vaccination for everyone for now la because the vaccines have risks. But it may be worth targeted population vaccination of MSM, unless it has spread beyond MSM. I hope MOH has info if all current cases are MSM.

 

The only issue is there are cases unknown spreading in the community because none of the cases are linked.

 

[cityhallguy]

On 8/1/2022 at 6:54 AM, sgmaven said:

Isn't it similar to their stance with the HPV vaccine? Worse, if you go to the government website on HPV, all they address is cervical cancer risk and females!

Well, indeed. I got my HPV vaccine in NZ. Anyway, CNA did reported a health news regarding HPV and the Doctor who got interview did recommend male should get HPV vaccines because there’s no HPV screening test for male. HPV can leads to cancer and not just cervical cancer risk, it also can cause throat cancer risk. 
 

For members who keen to get HPV vaccines, can go talk to your GP again with reference to the CNA news report here (link below). You should challenge your GP if what the news said are correct that male are at risk too for HPV cancer. If they (your GPs) don’t acknowledge and agreed with the news😂 then I probably do what the new generation people will do I supposed, send email to CNA about this news are false and misleading, it should be taken down! Then report to POMF for news correction 😂 😂  The CNA will say from what base ground you said the news are false, you said your GP said so 😂 and let the CNA report this GP for giving incorrect advised to patients 😂 

 

https://cnalifestyle.channelnewsasia.com/women/hpv-human-papillomavirus-cervical-cancer-myths-misconceptions-311816

Edited August 1, 2022 by cityhallguy

[Guest Pamii Anderson]

GET THE VAC IF U SWALLOW SWORDS.

[superflawless]

Read this STUPIDITY!!!!

Disturbing monkeypox photo on train prompts warning over virus myth

 

"The doctor said he witnessed the man on the subway in Madrid, Spain's capital. He cautiously approached the man and asked why he was on the subway if he had monkeypox.

The man said his doctor did not tell him to stay at home and isolate, but he did instruct him to wear a mask.

The doctor said he tried to explain to him the lesions on his body are the most contagious and suggested perhaps he did not understand his doctor's instructions."

"According to the doctor, the lady said she wasn't concerned because she was not gay and that the government had said straight people did not have to be concerned."

 

Link to Article
 

[singalion]

Spain actually had a second death on same day as my previous post, was reported yesterday by ST

 

Spain reports two first monkeypox-related deaths in Europe

Updated 31 Jul 2022, 12:28 am SGT

 

MADRID (REUTERS, XINHUA) - Spain reported its first two monkeypox-related deaths on Friday (July 29) and Saturday, in what is thought to be Europe’s first death from the disease.

 

Brazil reported earlier on Friday the first monkeypox-related death outside the African continent in the current wave of the disease.

 

According to a World Health Organisation report from July 22, only five deaths had been reported worldwide, all in the African region.

 

 

 

[singalion]

On 8/1/2022 at 11:50 AM, cityhallguy said:

Well, indeed. I got my HPV vaccine in NZ. Anyway, CNA did reported a health news regarding HPV and the Doctor who got interview did recommend male should get HPV vaccines because there’s no HPV screening test for male. HPV can leads to cancer and not just cervical cancer risk, it also can cause throat cancer risk. 
 

For members who keen to get HPV vaccines, can go talk to your GP again with reference to the CNA news report here (link below). You should challenge your GP if what the news said are correct that male are at risk too for HPV cancer. If they (your GPs) don’t acknowledge and agreed with the news😂 then I probably do what the new generation people will do I supposed, send email to CNA about this news are false and misleading, it should be taken down! Then report to POMF for news correction 😂 😂  The CNA will say from what base ground you said the news are false, you said your GP said so 😂 and let the CNA report this GP for giving incorrect advised to patients 😂 

 

https://cnalifestyle.channelnewsasia.com/women/hpv-human-papillomavirus-cervical-cancer-myths-misconceptions-311816

 

Note that the HPV vaccination has a certain age limit.

Currently it is not given to people above the age of 45y.

 

=> Get it in your younger years. The younger the better.

 

Thailand offers HPV vaccinations at certain hospitals at approx 8,000 to  23,500 THB some got medical fees included.

The only issue is that you need to travel 2 or 3 times to Thailand.

 

Malaysia offers also around 2k RM.

https://sunwayspecialistdamansara.com.my/hpv-vaccination-malaysia/

 

 

 

Edited August 1, 2022 by singalion

[PlayersGroup]

3 deaths. 2 in Spain, 1 in Brazil. Brazilian is 41yo with lymphoma. We know one in Spain died of brain inflammation. Spanish authorities didn't give details of the other death.

 

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/jul/30/spain-reports-second-death-related-to-monkeypox

 

Given the number of cases, the death rate outside of Africa is still very very low, 1 in 10,000. Just isolate and don't delay treatment if get it.

Edited August 1, 2022 by PlayersGroup

[Guest Keep it up]

https://www.channelnewsasia.com/singapore/monkeypox-singapore-no-local-contacts-positive-2849361

 

Seems like Singapore case all get from overseas one ah? 

 

All no link. Lucky sia 

[singalion]

On 8/1/2022 at 11:15 AM, PlayersGroup said:

 

I agree with MOH no need for mass vaccination for everyone for now la because the vaccines have risks. But it may be worth targeted population vaccination of MSM, unless it has spread beyond MSM. I hope MOH has info if all current cases are MSM.

 

The only issue is there are cases unknown spreading in the community because none of the cases are linked.

 

 

Even if the current infections can be contained, with the spread in Europe and US, new infections will surely cross over once again to Singapore in the coming weeks.

 

So far for the past 5 days no new monkeypox cases have been reported in the news for Singapore.

The problem is the long incubation time and infectious period with monkeypox...

 

 

 

[singalion]

On 8/1/2022 at 3:58 PM, Guest Keep it up said:

https://www.channelnewsasia.com/singapore/monkeypox-singapore-no-local-contacts-positive-2849361

 

Seems like Singapore case all get from overseas one ah? 

 

All no link. Lucky sia 

 

27 Jul 2022 CNA

Of the 11 monkeypox cases announced in Singapore since June, five are imported and six are local. None of the cases so far are linked.

 

Strangely the MOH and media reports do not inform for all the local cases whether they had travelled to overseas.

 

The last 11th case of the Singapore citizens seems to be a case without any overseas travelling reported, same as for the other "local" cases.

 

How the local cases contracted monkeypox seems "a mystery".

 

If you want the info for all cases

here at MOH:

https://www.moh.gov.sg/diseases-updates/monkeypox

 

click the second scroll down button at "Local Situation" update.

Which means that locals contracted monkeypox while having been overseas.

 

[Expired Btm Uncle]

On 8/1/2022 at 11:15 AM, PlayersGroup said:

 

I agree with MOH no need for mass vaccination for everyone for now la because the vaccines have risks. But it may be worth targeted population vaccination of MSM, unless it has spread beyond MSM. I hope MOH has info if all current cases are MSM.

 

The only issue is there are cases unknown spreading in the community because none of the cases are linked.

 

Please note there is currently no vaccine for monkeypox. The vaccine we have is for small pox from the same virus family and WHO already cautioned that the efficacy is limited (some protection but not total protection) and yes the averse effect from the smallpox vaccine is quite high so the risk benefit ration tip towards risk. 

[dnalor20]

On 8/1/2022 at 4:37 PM, Expired Btm Uncle said:

Please note there is currently no vaccine for monkeypox. The vaccine we have is for small pox from the same virus family and WHO already cautioned that the efficacy is limited (some protection but not total protection) and yes the averse effect from the smallpox vaccine is quite high so the risk benefit ration tip towards risk. 

I’m not sure if the statement “there is currently no vaccine for monkeypox” is entirely correct.

 

Following is extracted from CDC webpage:

Vaccine Effectiveness

Because Monkeypox virus is closely related to the virus that causes smallpox, the smallpox vaccine can protect people from getting monkeypox. Past data from Africa suggests that the smallpox vaccine is at least 85% effective in preventing monkeypox. The effectiveness of JYNNEOS^TM against monkeypox was concluded from a clinical study on the immunogenicity of JYNNEOS and efficacy data from animal studies.

Smallpox and monkeypox vaccines are effective at protecting people against monkeypox when given before exposure to monkeypox. Experts also believe that vaccination after a monkeypox exposure may help prevent the disease or make it less severe.

https://www.cdc.gov/poxvirus/monkeypox/clinicians/smallpox-vaccine.html

 

Edited August 1, 2022 by dnalor20

[Ng Ngai Lam]

It'll be interesting if we knew the ages of the infected persons. Most people above a certain age (40+) have had the smallpox vaccine.

[singalion]

New regime for infected:

 

Stable monkeypox patients to be transferred to dedicated isolation facility: MOH

Published 1 August 2022

 

SINGAPORE - All monkeypox patients who are clinically stable will be transferred to a dedicated monkeypox isolation facility from Monday (Aug 1).

The quarantine period for close contacts will now be cut to 14 days, followed by seven days of monitoring for symptoms via phone calls.

Previously, the quarantine period was up to 21 days.

...

"Evidence also points to a mean incubation period of approximately eight to nine days with most close contacts developing symptoms by Day 14 from their last exposure to a confirmed case."

MOH said those who are unable to complete their quarantine at home will be transferred to a government quarantine facility.

 

https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/health/clinically-stable-monkeypox-patients-to-transfer-to-dedicated-isolation-facility

 

 

 

[Guest Guest]

On 8/1/2022 at 8:50 PM, Ng Ngai Lam said:

It'll be interesting if we knew the ages of the infected persons. Most people above a certain age (40+) have had the smallpox vaccine.

 

For those who think that they are any safer because they had taken the smallpox vaccine decades ago.....

 

 

 

https://www.health.ny.gov/publications/7022/#:~:text=Length of Protection,in 95% of those vaccinated.

 

Length of Protection

Smallpox vaccination provides full immunity for 3 to 5 years and decreasing immunity thereafter.

[PlayersGroup]

On 8/1/2022 at 4:17 PM, singalion said:

 

Even if the current infections can be contained, with the spread in Europe and US, new infections will surely cross over once again to Singapore in the coming weeks.

 

 

If the thing becomes endemic in other parts of the world, then I'm sure MOH will adjust response accordingly to changing situations. But yeah, looking at US/UK, I'm not confident they are able to contain it. 

 

As of now, I thought our response is very sound. They are isolating close contacts of existing cases, sending cases to quarantine centres and giving them post exposure vaccination, which is known to reduce infectiousness and disease severity. Vaccines are in short supply too, need to prioritise.

 

I have confidence Singapore follow the science and learn from mistakes, thankfully we are not following those self-righteous half-baked but think they smarter than the world vaccine skeptic crazies.

[Guest Guest]

On 8/2/2022 at 8:13 AM, PlayersGroup said:

 

If the thing becomes endemic in other parts of the world, then I'm sure MOH will adjust response accordingly to changing situations. But yeah, looking at US/UK, I'm not confident they are able to contain it. 

 

As of now, I thought our response is very sound. They are isolating close contacts of existing cases, sending cases to quarantine centres and giving them post exposure vaccination, which is known to reduce infectiousness and disease severity. Vaccines are in short supply too, need to prioritise.

 

I have confidence Singapore follow the science and learn from mistakes, thankfully we are not following those self-righteous half-baked but think they smarter than the world vaccine skeptic crazies.

 

Hahahahaha .... don't you think you are putting too much blind faith in MOH? When will you ever learn?

[PlayersGroup]

On 8/2/2022 at 8:28 AM, Guest Guest said:

 

Hahahahaha .... don't you think you are putting too much blind faith in MOH? When will you ever learn?

 

Yes I'm the most ignorant of all. Guest is smartest of them all.

[Guest Guest]

On 8/2/2022 at 8:39 AM, PlayersGroup said:

 

Yes I'm the most ignorant of all. Guest is smartest of them all.

 

[lonelyglobe]

On 8/2/2022 at 8:28 AM, Guest Guest said:

 

Hahahahaha .... don't you think you are putting too much blind faith in MOH? When will you ever learn?

I suppose 11 cases out of a 5 million population is not significant enough although this is the highest in asia.

[singalion]

On 8/2/2022 at 12:49 PM, lonelyglobe said:

I suppose 11 cases out of a 5 million population is not significant enough although this is the highest in asia.

 

 

If they can contain it : Kudos. 

 

In my view the last media publication was wrong. It makes people think everything is fine and will make many to put their pants down... 

 

But taking a closer look at the other affected countries... more is surely to come or do you think people in Singapore will keep their dicks n pussies in their pants and abstain. 

 

On the apps I have not seen anyone so far who rejected fun due to Monkeypox...

 

 

[PlayersGroup]

On 8/2/2022 at 5:09 PM, singalion said:

On the apps I have not seen anyone so far who rejected fun due to Monkeypox...

 

You haven't talked to me la

 

Also, I think guys should be more concerned about other much more common STIs than with Monkeypox at the moment

 

Edited August 2, 2022 by PlayersGroup

[Guest Whywhy]

On 8/2/2022 at 5:09 PM, singalion said:

 

 

If they can contain it : Kudos. 

 

In my view the last media publication was wrong. It makes people think everything is fine and will make many to put their pants down... 

 

But taking a closer look at the other affected countries... more is surely to come or do you think people in Singapore will keep their dicks n pussies in their pants and abstain. 

 

On the apps I have not seen anyone so far who rejected fun due to Monkeypox...

 

 

 

Totally agreed with you. No one will abstain from sex. We know our fellow gays too well.

 

I stopped going onsen, gym, stayca and swimming.

 

Sticking to jogging only for now. 

[lonelyglobe]

https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/health/monkeypox-not-life-threatening-no-need-to-admit-patients-to-hospital-say-experts

 

12th case with no recent travel history.

Since all close contacts not infected and all cases unlink,  WTF monkeypox came in,  drop from sky?

[singalion]

MOH removed the individual reports I just posted the link some days ago.

The info is no getting lesser and lesser...

https://www.moh.gov.sg/diseases-updates/monkeypox

 

12th monkeypox case detected in Singapore

 

Published 2 August 2022 8pm

 

SINGAPORE - A 12th monkeypox case was detected in Singapore on Monday (Aug 1).

 

The man, 59, is a local unlinked case with no recent travel history, said the Ministry of Health on its website on Tuesday (Aug 2) evening.

 

He is the seventh local unlinked case.

 

The remaining five cases are imported cases with recent travel history to Canada, the United Kingdom, United States, Germany and Australia.

 

He is the first case detected in Singapore since last Wednesday (July 27), when a 32-year-old man was found to have contracted the virus.

 

The latest case follows an MOH announcement on Monday that all monkeypox patients who are deemed clinically stable from Monday will be transferred to a dedicated monkeypox isolation facility.

 

 

The quarantine period for close contacts will now be cut to 14 days, followed by seven days of monitoring for symptoms via phone calls.

 

Previously, the quarantine period was up to 21 days.

 

The Straits Times has contacted MOH for details on the location of the facility and whether it was converted from a Covid-19 community recovery facility.

 

The current outbreak of the viral disease emerged in May, and has infected more than 18,000 people in 78 countries, said the World Health Organisation last Wednesday.

 

Nine people who contracted the virus in Africa, India, Brazil and Spain have died.

 

Some of the symptoms linked to the monkeypox virus include fever, headache, muscle pain, swollen lymph nodes, chills, lethargy and skin rash.

 

 

https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/health/12th-monkeypox-case-detected-in-singapore

 

 

[singalion]

On 8/2/2022 at 6:54 PM, Since u r here said:

were offered smallpox vac
as monkeypox not recommended

 

As Playergroup already mentioned the monkeypox is from the smallpox family.

 

JYNNEOS from Bavarian Nordic is a specialised monkeypox vaccine. It goes by different names in Europe and US (as often).

 

Quote:

JYNNEOS is the only FDA-licensed vaccine in the United States to prevent monkeypox disease in individuals 18 years of age and older. JYNNEOS is also licensed to prevent smallpox disease in this age group.

 

 

 

Therefore, the two available vaccines both cover monkeypox also.

 

• Two vaccines may be used for the prevention of Monkeypox virus infection:
• • JYNNEOS (also known as Imvamune or Imvanex), licensed (or approved) by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) for the prevention of Monkeypox virus infection, and
  • ACAM2000, licensed (or approved) by FDA for use against smallpox and made available for use against monkeypox under an Expanded Access Investigational New Drug application.

https://www.cdc.gov/poxvirus/monkeypox/considerations-for-monkeypox-vaccination.html

 

The ACAM2000 is not distributed in Europe as it has more side effects, further the injection method is different and healing of the injection would takes up to 6 weeks or more due to a special technique in injecting the vaccine!

 

Meanwhile, U.S. company Emergent BioSolutions also has an FDA-approved smallpox vaccine, ACAM2000, which isn’t available in the EU.

 

 

Here you have all facts from FDA:

 

https://www.fda.gov/vaccines-blood-biologics/vaccines/key-facts-about-monkeypox-vaccine

 

 

 

[singalion]

On 8/3/2022 at 12:08 PM, Since u r here said:

I felt sorry for close contacts:

 

Singapore to transfer clinically stable monkeypox cases to dedicated isolation facility: MOH

The quarantine period for close contacts of monkeypox cases will also be adjusted to 14 days, followed by seven days of monitoring for symptoms using regular phone calls.

https://www.channelnewsasia.com/singapore/monkeypox-stable-cases-isolation-facility-quarantine-14-days-moh-2850521?fbclid=IwAR09U6sa_8JqoCVtSYtib1wzGjKk2UFBUR7u6tRVTf8YUiZTCKtbWXSXnCc&fs=e&s=cl

 

But it is the only way to contain the spread of the disease...

 

 

[Guest Should get it]

Should just get it. Then recover not scared liao. 

[superflawless]

On 8/2/2022 at 8:28 AM, Guest Guest said:

 

Hahahahaha .... don't you think you are putting too much blind faith in MOH? When will you ever learn?

Exactly right. I do not trust the MOH at all. 

I do not think they are taking this Monkeypox seriously at all, thinking that it's just a gay problem. 

They are too slow to respond. When you finally think you should be tackling the problem, you are already too late.

[Guest Pa jiam]

Weren't all small kids In spore pa jiam for smallpox?