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Go massage or hotel spa also will be at high risk to get monkey pox. So wonder why no vaccine roll out to whole population? 
 

The way I look at it is, those 70 countries which have widespread of monkey pox are the countries that rollout vaccines to the high risk populations. Then the rest of the countries are hoping these 70 countries could eradicate or mitigate the spread of the virus. So SG is monitoring the situation only. 

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On 7/27/2022 at 8:40 AM, cityhallguy said:

Go massage or hotel spa also will be at high risk to get monkey pox. So wonder why no vaccine roll out to whole population? 
 

The way I look at it is, those 70 countries which have widespread of monkey pox are the countries that rollout vaccines to the high risk populations. Then the rest of the countries are hoping these 70 countries could eradicate or mitigate the spread of the virus. So SG is monitoring the situation only. 

 

To me it looks like Singapore failed to order (new) stock of the Bavarian Nordic vaccine this time around...

 

As with Covid there might be a threshold of infection numbers (maybe at 50/100) until something happens. 

 

How to contain it?

 

a) You don't know (at least in most cases) whether an incoming traveller / returning Singaporean is gay. 

 

b) had sex overseas, attended any "high risk" place for sex, had multiple sex partners...

 

c) intends to date sex  partners within 21 days after arrival here. 

 

Any new implemented PCR test on monkeypox at check points will slow down tourism numbers. 

 

 

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On 7/27/2022 at 7:28 AM, bluerunner said:

Monkey pox virus can also spread through surface contact including sharing towel, bedsheet etc

Staycation and complementary towel in the gym could also be possible means of transmission. That sounds rather scary. 

 

On 7/27/2022 at 8:40 AM, cityhallguy said:

Go massage or hotel spa also will be at high risk to get monkey pox. So wonder why no vaccine roll out to whole population? 
 

The way I look at it is, those 70 countries which have widespread of monkey pox are the countries that rollout vaccines to the high risk populations. Then the rest of the countries are hoping these 70 countries could eradicate or mitigate the spread of the virus. So SG is monitoring the situation only. 


why are you obsessing about towels, sheets or spa when 95% of infections are being spread through sexual activity? And why rollout vaccines to whole population when the infections are being spread this way? 
 

https://www.channelnewsasia.com/singapore/monkeypox-moh-reaching-out-risk-population-including-those-engaging-high-risk-sexual-activities-2833721

 

Gyms and hotels generally give you clean sheets and towels so there is no issue here. And it is clear from the evidence that specific activities - sex - come with much higher risk and are responsible for the majority of cases. If you are having sex in the hotel spa or with your masseuse, then - yes - be cautious.  Otherwise, why focus on this?


It is better to focus on where the risk actually is and keep things in perspective, rather than speculating and spreading panic unnecessarily. 


 

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Give it time. They are producing the vaccine to meet the demand:

 

The company with an approved monkeypox vaccine is considering expanding production to 24 hours a day

Bavarian Nordic has won EU approval for its monkeypox vaccine.

Bavarian can produce 30 million doses per year, but it’s looking to boost that capacity

Imvanex, the monkeypox vaccine made by Bavarian, was initially made to combat smallpox.

 

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I hope the Singapore government will seriously considering ordering large amounts of vaccines to help innoculate those who wish to be vaccinated. 

I feel that the local agencies are really not implementing outreach programmes to protect the people most vulnerable.

Not just the gay men. 

 

Those who have to get in physical contact with others, like massuers, physiotherapists, teachers, hairstylists, barbers, soldiers etc etc would be most vulnerable.

I hope they are stock piling the vaccines by placing large orders......

 

I personally don't mind paying to be vaccinated. But of course, if free like Covid, that would be great too. 

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Best of all is, if all Sauna patrons catch monkeypox from each other and gain immunity  , then country can save money on giving out pox vaccination.

 

So far , business is booming, in out , in out, in out the customer streams. 

 

Not afraid monkey pox mar. 

 

Tio once immune for life right ?

 

Playing Devil's advocate here.🙏

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S’pore Reports 10th Monkeypox Case On 26 Jul, A 28-Year-Old Who Returned From Canada

28-year-old Taiwanese man who lives in Singapore. He recently returned from Canada, which makes him an imported case.

 

Started having a fever, headache, pain in the anal region, and muscle aches four days ago, on 22 Jul. Contact tracing ongoing.

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On 7/27/2022 at 10:58 AM, superflawless said:

I hope the Singapore government will seriously considering ordering large amounts of vaccines to help innoculate those who wish to be vaccinated. 

I feel that the local agencies are really not implementing outreach programmes to protect the people most vulnerable.

Not just the gay men. 

 

Those who have to get in physical contact with others, like massuers, physiotherapists, Teachers, hairstylists, barbers, soldiers etc etc would be most vulnerable.

I hope they are stock piling the vaccines by placing large orders......

 

I personally don't mind paying to be vaccinated. But of course, if free like Covid, that would be great too. 


Wow, are you having sex with ‘massuers, physiotherapists, Teachers, hairstylists, barbers, soldiers’?

 

if it is so easily spread to those groups, shouldn’t the cases already be much higher?
 

let’s keep things in perspective and focus the efforts where they will have the most benefit. 

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So those that got infected. Confirmed is through gay anal sex infection one ah? 

 

So kinky sia. It's like a virus to identify who have sex and who does not. 

 

This people who got it should be proud la. 

 

Can get laid. Can fly to overseas to get laid by foreign man. 

 

Get breed. 

 

Come back Singapore and give birth to monkey pox. 

 

So kinky

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I wanna ask ah. If its a crime to have gay sex. 377A

 

Then why is it legal to have gay sauna where people have sex? 

 

I know in Malaysia. This kind of thing is illegal. Will never be legal. 

 

Police will raid and those caught will be shamed. 

 

But in Singapore police don't do this kind of gay sauna raid. Cause its legal? 

 

Its allowed? 

 

But can't repeal 377A. 

 

Reach out through official channel? Means they know which business is high sex risk. 

 

Still curious why don't have girl infection le. 

Getting more and more like gay disease. 

 

Then when the hetero start to get, then they blame the gays.... 

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Why does this monkeypox feels like a cheap narrative to aids? Aids also come from monkey one right? 

 

Lesion. Cancer. Death. Aids. From gay community. Stigma. Gay disease. Then hetero. 

 

Feels like monkey pox is the new generation thing... Aids of the 20s. 

 

Other std. If you don't see the cock can't see its herpes or anal wart etc. 

 

So now God created one that make it so visible to identify those sexual perverts... 

 

Scary how God's design can overcome mankind. So it's like man playing God. God strikes back. Man overcome the virus. God let man forget about it. Then strike again!! 

 

So scary. 

 

Living is so scary

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If only MOH have interview the victim who and  how they got it from.So far no mention they got  it from sauna.It could be from massage parlour or home orgy .So generally sauna is still safe from monkey pox.But still sauna operator need to spring into action to look out for people with rashes and block them from entering.

 

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On 7/26/2022 at 11:08 PM, shadanasahasam said:

I am a Malaysian. Is it easy to get monkey pox vaccination in Malaysia? Who to approach?

 

This is a more or less public forum by private people.

 

How would anyone know what happens in Malaysia and who to approach.

 

Check at Malaysian news portals please...

 

 

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On 7/27/2022 at 12:11 PM, Guest Why said:

Wow, are you having sex with ‘massuers, physiotherapists, Teachers, hairstylists, barbers, soldiers’?

 

On 7/27/2022 at 12:32 PM, Guest Test said:

So those that got infected. Confirmed is through gay anal sex infection one ah? 

 

So kinky sia. It's like a virus to identify who have sex and who does not. 

 

This people who got it should be proud la. 

 

Can get laid. Can fly to overseas to get laid by foreign man. 

 

Get breed. 

 

Come back Singapore and give birth to monkey pox. 

 

So kinky

 

On 7/27/2022 at 1:19 PM, Guest Stupid said:

Why does this monkeypox feels like a cheap narrative to aids? Aids also come from monkey one right? 

 

Lesion. Cancer. Death. Aids. From gay community. Stigma. Gay disease. Then hetero. 

 

Feels like monkey pox is the new generation thing... Aids of the 20s. 

 

Other std. If you don't see the cock can't see its herpes or anal wart etc. 

 

So now God created one that make it so visible to identify those sexual perverts... 

 

Scary how God's design can overcome mankind. So it's like man playing God. God strikes back. Man overcome the virus. God let man forget about it. Then strike again!! 

 

So scary. 

 

Living is so scary

 

On 7/27/2022 at 12:46 PM, Guest Derelict said:

Kukujiao now not fresh.  Don't consume!

 

 

Must people here really discuss this topic at the intelligence level of a 3 year old kid?

 

 

 

 

 

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On 7/27/2022 at 12:11 PM, Guest Why said:

Wow, are you having sex with ‘massuers, physiotherapists, Teachers, hairstylists, barbers, soldiers’?

 

On 7/27/2022 at 12:32 PM, Guest Test said:

So those that got infected. Confirmed is through gay anal sex infection one ah? 

 

 

 

Better to your homework and scroll up this thread. It was all posted here.

 

You can catch Monkeypox not just through sexual intercourse.

 

It was also mentioned that the monkeypox virus can remain on surface, towels, bedsheets etc.

as long as you touch infected skin of an infected person or through droplets, body fluid etc...

 

Superflawless is not wrong to point to all those having higher skin to skin contact with other people (masseurs etc)....

 

Please educate yourself prior to posting here...

 

 

 

 

On 7/16/2022 at 10:22 PM, singalion said:

 

This on transmission:

Mode of Transmission

Transmission of MPV occurs when a person comes into close contact with the virus through an infected animal, infected person, or contaminated environment.

Animal-to-human transmission may occur via:

  • Bite or scratch from an infected animal
  • Bush meat preparation
  • Direct contact with the blood, body fluids, or skin or mucosal lesions of infected animals

Human-to-human transmission is limited but can occur via:

  • Exposure to respiratory droplets
  • Direct physical contact with the blood, body fluid or skin rash from infected individual or contaminated materials

 

Note also through respiratory droplets!

 

 

 

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On 7/27/2022 at 1:25 PM, singalion said:

 

 

 

 

 

Must people here really discuss this topic at the intelligence level of a 3 year old kid?

 

 

 

 

 


here you go again, diverting the topic and derailing the thread. If you are going to quote my post, quote the whole thing please. 

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On 7/27/2022 at 1:31 PM, singalion said:

 

 

 

Better to your homework and scroll up this thread. It was all posted here.

 

You can catch Monkeypox not just through sexual intercourse.

 

It was also mentioned that the monkeypox virus can remain on surface, towels, bedsheets etc.

as long as you touch infected skin of an infected person or through droplets, body fluid etc...

 

Superflawless is not wrong to point to all those having higher skin to skin contact with other people (masseurs etc)....

 

Please educate yourself prior to posting here...

 

 

 

 

 

 


95% of cases are through sexual transmission, so let’s make sure not to lose perspective and go and on about droplets, bedsheets or teachers… seems some people here are more concerned about the 5% than the majority of cases 

 

‘According to a report published by the New England Journal of Medicine last week, 98 per cent of the 528 cases in the study were gay or bisexual men. Transmission was suspected to have occurred through sexual activity in 95 per cent of those infected.’

 

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Does anyone here have a refilled source for how the virus is spread through sexual transmission? If so please share it. Ie. Which sexual activities carry the most risk?
 

this would be much more helpful information to share here than panicking about low risk activities and environments.

 

maybe this can be a little project for you, @singalion

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On 7/27/2022 at 12:11 PM, Guest Why said:


Wow, are you having sex with ‘massuers, physiotherapists, Teachers, hairstylists, barbers, soldiers’?

 

if it is so easily spread to those groups, shouldn’t the cases already be much higher?
 

let’s keep things in perspective and focus the efforts where they will have the most benefit. 

 

It probably needs an infected person to have visited a masseur, physiotherapists, hairstylists, barbers.

 

The first person infected had visited a masseur, but not sure whether any infection took place. There was no report.

 

While the main course of transmission with all cases most probably happened during sexual activity it is not a must, as monkeypox can be transmitted through non sexual means.

 

It requires certain "prolonged" exposure to an infected person and any saliva, droplet, skin to infected skin exchange.

 

Just take a barber, he does a cut, there is blood exchange, he wipes it with a tissue, places the tissue on the hairstyling desk, later throws it to the dustbin but accidentally touches the blood stain on the tissue because he was distracted by his phone. Bingo.

 

 

 

 

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On 7/27/2022 at 1:42 PM, singalion said:

 

It probably needs an infected person to have visited a masseur, physiotherapists, hairstylists, barbers.

 

The first person infected had visited a masseur, but not sure whether any infection took place. There was no report.

 

While the main course of transmission with all cases most probably happened during sexual activity it is not a must, as monkeypox can be transmitted through non sexual means.

 

It requires certain "prolonged" exposure to an infected person and any saliva, droplet, skin to infected skin exchange.

 

Just take a barber, he does a cut, there is blood exchange, he wipes it with a tissue, places the tissue on the hairstyling desk, later throws it to the dustbin but accidentally touches the blood stain on the tissue because he was distracted by his phone. Bingo.

 

 

 

 


That is long on conjecture and theories and really, really short on facts. If monkeypox was this easily spread, would there not be many, many more cases by now? Especially among the close contacts of the confirmed cases?
 

again, lots of things can or could happen but that doesn’t make them likely, so what is the point of this kind of ignorant speculation and hypothesizing? 

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On 7/27/2022 at 1:37 PM, Guest Why said:


95% of cases are through sexual transmission, so let’s make sure not to lose perspective and go and on about droplets, bedsheets or teachers… seems some people here are more concerned about the 5% than the majority of cases 

 

‘According to a report published by the New England Journal of Medicine last week, 98 per cent of the 528 cases in the study were gay or bisexual men. Transmission was suspected to have occurred through sexual activity in 95 per cent of those infected.’

 

 

You sound like someone who repeatedly "opposes" to my posts.

 

Please read carefully.

 

A study is  a sample of certain persons examined.

 

The 95% is from the 528 cases that were sampled for the study.

Please do not get things wrong.

 

It clearly talks about 528 cases in the study.

It also says suspected to have occurred through sexual activity.

Did kissing fall under sexual activity in the study?

Or skin to skin rubbing, rubbing of dicks while together?

Did they share towels afterwards?

Do we know this?

No!

 

What about the rest of the infected people?

 

Is that sample or study conclusive?

 

 

Again you are here playing down things similar to the Covid19 thread.

 

Why do medical reports talk about the means of transmission???

 

 

Let us not play down any potential risk.

We should keep in view all means of transmission.

 

Infected droplets on bedsheets, towels can cause an infection.

 

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On 7/27/2022 at 1:47 PM, Guest Why said:


That is long on conjecture and theories and really, really short on facts. If monkeypox was this easily spread, would there not be many, many more cases by now? Especially among the close contacts of the confirmed cases?
 

again, lots of things can or could happen but that doesn’t make them likely, so what is the point of this kind of ignorant speculation and hypothesizing? 

 

The ignorant one is you actually:

 

Guest Why you act extremely irresponsible here at BW with your posts playing down risks.

 

Here you have it from CDC (the US Center for Disease Control and Prevention from the  U.S. Department of Health & Human Services just published 2 days ago!

 

Monkeypox explained: How to protect yourself and what to watch out for

Updated July 24, 2022

 

How does the virus spread?

The CDC says the risk of contracting monkeypox in the U.S. is "believed to be low," but anyone who comes into close contact with an individual carrying the disease is at risk of infection.

 

The current outbreak is spreading from human-to-human contact. You could develop an infection from droplet respiratory particles by spending too much time face-to-face with a monkeypox carrier, the WHO warns.

 

The virus also spreads through physical contact, including touching a lesion, as well as the exchange of some bodily fluids like saliva. An individual could become infected by touching items and surfaces shared with someone exhibiting symptoms.

How do I protect myself?

As the virus can spread through skin-to-skin contact, the CDC advises people to exercise caution in situations where one can't maintain some sense of personal space and bumping into others is impractical. In places where clothing is minimal and you could experience that contact, such as crowded raves and clubs, the risk goes up.

 

Potentially contaminated items like bedding, clothes and towels should be contained until you have time to do your laundry, the CDC recommends. Be sure to frequently wash your hands with soap and water as you're cleaning and dispose of all cleaning materials when you're done.

 

Monkeypox isn't considered a sexually transmitted disease, but the CDC says researchers are still trying to sort out whether the virus can be found in semen, vaginal fluids and feces. Sexually active individuals should be open about their potential exposure to the virus, and ask your partner or partners to do the same.

 

 

Full article here for those interested and more responsible:

 

https://www.npr.org/2022/07/24/1113197119/monkeypox-symptoms-prevention-vaccines-what-to-know

 

 

 

 

Please stop playing down monkeypox, mislead readers with your superficial knowledge and act more responsible towards your fellow gay people here.

 

 

 

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On 7/27/2022 at 1:40 PM, Guest Why said:

Does anyone here have a refilled source for how the virus is spread through sexual transmission? If so please share it. Ie. Which sexual activities carry the most risk?
 

this would be much more helpful information to share here than panicking about low risk activities and environments.

 

maybe this can be a little project for you, @singalion

 

Fact is as seen above by my post, monkeypox is not just spread exclusively through sexual transmission.

 

I don't need to do this project, as it is clear from the information from CDC that any exposure to an infected person carries risk. Why should I focus on sexual transmission when sharing a towel with an infected person can cause the infection?

 

From that point your post is already irrelevant.

 

Read above post and you will see what is sufficient to get infected with monkeypox!

 

 

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For completeness I post the symptoms here from that good article on monkeypox:

 

 

What are the symptoms?

Signs and symptoms of monkeypox are similar to those of smallpox:

  • fever
  • headaches
  • muscle aches
  • a lack of energy
 

A rash can also be present, resembling pimples and pus-filled blisters, the CDC says. It can develop all over the human body, including face, feet, hands, genitals and inside the mouth.

 

It's important to note that doctors are seeing a subtler rash in some patients. Some individuals developed only a single lesion that could be mistaken for a symptom of sexually transmitted diseases such as herpes or syphilis, NPR has reported.

 

"I think that's actually supercritical," infectious disease doctor Donald Vinh at McGill University told NPR last month. "Because you can see how these patients can be missed. But they are still contagious and may propagate the disease."

The CDC says the rash typically lasts two to four weeks and that some individuals develop it before the onset of other symptoms, while others may experience only the rash.

 

 

 

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On 7/27/2022 at 2:01 PM, singalion said:

 

The ignorant one is you actually:

 

Here you have it from CDC (the US Center for Disease Control and Prevention from the  U.S. Department of Health & Human Services just published 2 days ago!

 

Monkeypox explained: How to protect yourself and what to watch out for

Updated July 24, 2022

 

How does the virus spread?

The CDC says the risk of contracting monkeypox in the U.S. is "believed to be low," but anyone who comes into close contact with an individual carrying the disease is at risk of infection.

 

The current outbreak is spreading from human-to-human contact. You could develop an infection from droplet respiratory particles by spending too much time face-to-face with a monkeypox carrier, the WHO warns.

 

The virus also spreads through physical contact, including touching a lesion, as well as the exchange of some bodily fluids like saliva. An individual could become infected by touching items and surfaces shared with someone exhibiting symptoms.

How do I protect myself?

As the virus can spread through skin-to-skin contact, the CDC advises people to exercise caution in situations where one can't maintain some sense of personal space and bumping into others is impractical. In places where clothing is minimal and you could experience that contact, such as crowded raves and clubs, the risk goes up.

 

Potentially contaminated items like bedding, clothes and towels should be contained until you have time to do your laundry, the CDC recommends. Be sure to frequently wash your hands with soap and water as you're cleaning and dispose of all cleaning materials when you're done.

 

Full article here for those interested and more responsible:

 

https://www.npr.org/2022/07/24/1113197119/monkeypox-symptoms-prevention-vaccines-what-to-know

 

 

 

 

Please stop playing down monkeypox, mislead readers with your superficial knowledge and act more responsible towards your fellow gay people here.

 

 

 


as ever, you totally miss the point and are unable to understand basic statistics and probability.

 

Based on the evidence so far, being responsible means focusing on telling people to avoid casual sex and multiple partners.
 

It is a simple message but anyway, please feel free to carry on ‘being responsible’ in your own way by confusing things and encouraging people to worry about towels and sheets and blood on a tissue at the barbers (wtf?!).

 

Why don’t you go look at the sauna threads on here to see where the real problem is and then ask the mods why they delete all comments related to monkey pox on those threads? 
 

 

 

 

 

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On 7/27/2022 at 2:07 PM, singalion said:

 

Fact is as seen above by my post, monkeypox is not just spread exclusively through sexual transmission.

 

I don't need to do this project, as it is clear from the information from CDC that any exposure to an infected person carries risk. Why should I focus on sexual transmission when sharing a towel with an infected person can cause the infection?

 

From that point your post is already irrelevant.

 

Read above post and you will see what is sufficient to get infected with monkeypox!

 

 


er because 95% of cases are from sexual activity… Are you really so dense? 

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On 7/27/2022 at 2:11 PM, Guest Why said:


as ever, you totally miss the point and are unable to understand basic statistics and probability.

 

Based on the evidence so far, being responsible means focusing on telling people to avoid casual sex and multiple partners.
 

It is a simple message but anyway, please feel free to carry on ‘being responsible’ in your own way by confusing things and encouraging people to worry about towels and sheets and blood on a tissue at the barbers (wtf?!).

 

Why don’t you go look at the sauna threads on here to see where the real problem is and then ask the mods why they delete all comments related to monkey pox on those threads? 
 

 

 

 

 

 

Sorry, I have no mood for entertaining your brawls you put up here.

 

Why would someone responsible just focus on sexual transmission, if there are also other means of transmission without sexual activity???

Your focus on just sex is false and playing down the potential risk exposure.

 

Quote:

Monkeypox explained: How to protect yourself and what to watch out for

Updated July 24, 2022

 

Monkeypox isn't considered a sexually transmitted disease, but the CDC says researchers are still trying to sort out whether the virus can be found in semen, vaginal fluids and feces. Sexually active individuals should be open about their potential exposure to the virus, and ask your partner or partners to do the same.

 

https://www.npr.org/2022/07/24/1113197119/monkeypox-symptoms-prevention-vaccines-what-to-know

 

 

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On 7/27/2022 at 2:16 PM, singalion said:

 

Sorry, I have no mood for entertaining your brawls you put up here.

 

Why would someone responsible just focus on sexual transmission, if there are also other means of transmission without sexual activity???

Your focus on just sex is false and playing down the potential risk exposure.

 

Quote:

Monkeypox explained: How to protect yourself and what to watch out for

Updated July 24, 2022

 

Monkeypox isn't considered a sexually transmitted disease, but the CDC says researchers are still trying to sort out whether the virus can be found in semen, vaginal fluids and feces. Sexually active individuals should be open about their potential exposure to the virus, and ask your partner or partners to do the same.

 

https://www.npr.org/2022/07/24/1113197119/monkeypox-symptoms-prevention-vaccines-what-to-know

 

 


that’s like saying why focus on smoking when you can get lung cancer even if you don’t smoke! Or why wear a helmet on a bike because a meteor might hit me anyway!

 

anyway, if you think it helpful to carry on spamming this thread with your mad theories, please go ahead. Just be aware that is is not helpful.

 

Of course, you could actually do something helpful but that would interfere with the amount of time you spend cutting and pasting things for blowing wind…

 

bye bye 

 

 

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On 7/27/2022 at 2:12 PM, Guest Why said:


er because 95% of cases are from sexual activity… Are you really so dense? 

 

Please learn to read full articles and reports from top to the end and not just some snippets that you misinterpret.

 

 

 

The number is a study from a sample examination of 528 cases .

 

It is not even conclusive because it uses the word "suspected".

 

The infection could have spread by kissing and not by any anal or oral penetration.

 

 

According to a report published by the New England Journal of Medicine last week, 98 per cent of the 528 cases in the study were gay or bisexual men. Transmission was suspected to have occurred through sexual activity in 95 per cent of those infected.

 

The same report debunks your story telling already as it continues:

 

 

"It is important to stress that monkeypox is not a sexually transmitted infection in the traditional sense; it can be acquired through any kind of close physical contact," said first author John Thornhill, in a statement.

 

The same article goes on:

 

Although sexual activity was behind most cases, the researchers stressed in a statement that the virus can be spread via any close physical contact, such as respiratory droplets and potentially through clothing and other surfaces.

 

 

https://www.ndtv.com/world-news/95-of-monkeypox-cases-transmitted-through-sexual-activity-study-3182159

 

 

 

 

Please also stop playing down the potential other means of infection. This is irresponsible.

 

 

 

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On 7/27/2022 at 2:11 PM, Guest Why said:

as ever, you totally miss the point and are unable to understand basic statistics and probability.

Based on the evidence so far, being responsible means focusing on telling people to avoid casual sex and multiple partners.
It is a simple message but anyway, please feel free to carry on ‘being responsible’ in your own way by confusing things and encouraging people to worry about towels and sheets and blood on a tissue at the barbers (wtf?!).

 

Why don’t you go look at the sauna threads on here to see where the real problem is and then ask the mods why they delete all comments related to monkey pox on those threads? 
 

 

 

 

 

 

Even Today newspaper from Singapore rebuts your point:

 

Explainer: Why monkeypox is not a 'gay disease', yet the queer community needs to heed the health risks

Published July 26, 2022

 

As more is known of how the disease is spread, infectious disease experts here and overseas have warned against stigmatising monkeypox with the gay community because it will only serve to further its spread, alienating this group of patients and making them not want to get medical help or treatment.

 

Apart from that, the spread of monkeypox is not just limited to sexual activity among homosexuals. The disease also spreads through close contact, which means that it is possible for the virus to infect people who have sex with people of the opposite sex and through kissing, for example.

 

This is further supported by WHO, which said that monkeypox spreads through close contact, such as face-to-face, skin-to-skin, mouth-to-mouth and mouth-to-skin contact.

 

In an infographic put out on July 18, the international health organisation stated: “The virus can also spread from contaminated environments to humans, such as when a person with monkeypox touches clothing, bedding, towels, objects, electronics and surfaces.

 

“Ulcers, lesions or sores in the mouth can also be infectious, meaning the virus can spread through direct contact with the mouth, respiratory droplets and possibly through short-range aerosols.”

 

Dr Leong Hoe Nam, an infectious disease expert from Rophi Clinic, said: “Monkeypox virus has only a fixed duration of time of around two to three weeks to spread to a new host. To break the transmission cycle, it requires discretion from the individual and the population. And it starts with avoiding promiscuous physical liaisons.

"Be cautious when you are not in a monogamous relationship. Even random kissing of individuals may be sufficient for transmission because close breathing may transmit (the virus)."

 

 

https://www.todayonline.com/singapore/explainer-monkeypox-not-gay-disease-queer-community-health-risks-1953656

 

 

As much as I don't wish but it is a matter of time that the virus spreads to the community here to heterosexuals such as family, colleagues etc...

 

If you are responsible you will inform on all various means of spreading and catching the infection and not just single out one "suspected" way of transmission.

 

In that sense my posts are educative to the community here!

 

Why should I focus on saunas or group orgies or anything related?

 

 

Let's be responsible.

 

 

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On 7/27/2022 at 2:45 PM, singalion said:

 

Even Today newspaper from Singapore rebuts your point:

 

Explainer: Why monkeypox is not a 'gay disease', yet the queer community needs to heed the health risks

Published July 26, 2022

 

As more is known of how the disease is spread, infectious disease experts here and overseas have warned against stigmatising monkeypox with the gay community because it will only serve to further its spread, alienating this group of patients and making them not want to get medical help or treatment.

 

Apart from that, the spread of monkeypox is not just limited to sexual activity among homosexuals. The disease also spreads through close contact, which means that it is possible for the virus to infect people who have sex with people of the opposite sex and through kissing, for example.

 

This is further supported by WHO, which said that monkeypox spreads through close contact, such as face-to-face, skin-to-skin, mouth-to-mouth and mouth-to-skin contact.

 

In an infographic put out on July 18, the international health organisation stated: “The virus can also spread from contaminated environments to humans, such as when a person with monkeypox touches clothing, bedding, towels, objects, electronics and surfaces.

 

“Ulcers, lesions or sores in the mouth can also be infectious, meaning the virus can spread through direct contact with the mouth, respiratory droplets and possibly through short-range aerosols.”

 

Dr Leong Hoe Nam, an infectious disease expert from Rophi Clinic, said: “Monkeypox virus has only a fixed duration of time of around two to three weeks to spread to a new host. To break the transmission cycle, it requires discretion from the individual and the population. And it starts with avoiding promiscuous physical liaisons.

"Be cautious when you are not in a monogamous relationship. Even random kissing of individuals may be sufficient for transmission because close breathing may transmit (the virus)."

 

 

https://www.todayonline.com/singapore/explainer-monkeypox-not-gay-disease-queer-community-health-risks-1953656

 

 

As much as I don't wish but it is a matter of time that the virus spreads to the community here to heterosexuals such as family, colleagues etc...

 

If you are responsible you will inform on all various means of spreading and catching the infection and not just single out one "suspected" way of transmission.

 

In that sense my posts are educative to the community here!

 

Why should I focus on saunas or group orgies or anything related?

 

 

Let's be responsible.

 

 


it’s pointless to respond to you because you have managed to completely miss the point the Today article you shared is making, even when it is very clearly made in the very first paragraph. 

 

 

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Guest Stop poxing arouhd

Guys you all can abstain from sex for 2 years. Can work from home for 1 year. 

 

Now cannot keep your kkj in your pants meh? 

 

Horny? Hard? Jerk off! Wack it hard so it cum then you can control the desire when flaccid. 

 

Seriously... Stop spreading the pox. 

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On 7/27/2022 at 3:19 PM, Guest Stop poxing arouhd said:

Guys you all can abstain from sex for 2 years. Can work from home for 1 year. 

 

Now cannot keep your kkj in your pants meh? 

 

Horny? Hard? Jerk off! Wack it hard so it cum then you can control the desire when flaccid. 

 

Seriously... Stop spreading the pox. 

 

On 7/27/2022 at 7:42 PM, mantin30 said:

https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/one-more-imported-monkeypox-case-reported-in-singapore

 

10 cases already. Oh my, slowly getting more and more...

 

 


go look at the other active threads here - people looking for 3ways, group sex invitations, sauna threads as busy as ever, travellers looking for cruising advice and one dumb fuck who keeps posting about making people swallow his cum when they say don’t want to.
 

With people showing this level of ignorance, the cases here can only increase. 

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On 7/27/2022 at 2:59 PM, Guest Why said:


it’s pointless to respond to you because you have managed to completely miss the point the Today article you shared is making, even when it is very clearly made in the very first paragraph. 

 

 

 

Don't you think it is obvious to BW readers who is missing the point in this discussion ???

 

 

On 7/27/2022 at 9:59 PM, Kimochi said:

 

Probably, there will be more local cases day by day.

 

the problem is the long "incubation " period for monkeypox, which is about 3 weeks.

 

That means infectious people will spread the virus around 3 weeks until they develop the first serious symptoms...

 

All depends how many different sex partner the guys had so far...

 

I assume that Singapore will hit 50 within the next 7 - 14 days...

 

 

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Whilst monkeypox is not a "pure 100% STD, the way the news reports about it are written makes it very much sound like one. 

 

Otherwise, why the focus on how 95% of the infected caught it through sexual intercourse? 

 

This has all the hallmarks of the HIV/AIDS societal stigma nonsense all over again. I guess humanity never learns. 

 

But yeah. Now's probably not a good time to be sexually promiscuous especially with foreign guys who are the most likely vectors introducing monkeypox into SG. 

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why are the 2 MP who supported pinkdots silent now?

why is pinkdot silent now?

Pinkdot movement was for the welfare of certain group as claimed, now one suspects the intentions as previously claimed.

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On 7/27/2022 at 2:25 PM, singalion said:

 

Please learn to read full articles and reports from top to the end and not just some snippets that you misinterpret.

 

 

 

The number is a study from a sample examination of 528 cases .

 

It is not even conclusive because it uses the word "suspected".

 

The infection could have spread by kissing and not by any anal or oral penetration.

 

 

According to a report published by the New England Journal of Medicine last week, 98 per cent of the 528 cases in the study were gay or bisexual men. Transmission was suspected to have occurred through sexual activity in 95 per cent of those infected.

 

The same report debunks your story telling already as it continues:

 

 

"It is important to stress that monkeypox is not a sexually transmitted infection in the traditional sense; it can be acquired through any kind of close physical contact," said first author John Thornhill, in a statement.

 

The same article goes on:

 

Although sexual activity was behind most cases, the researchers stressed in a statement that the virus can be spread via any close physical contact, such as respiratory droplets and potentially through clothing and other surfaces.

 

 

https://www.ndtv.com/world-news/95-of-monkeypox-cases-transmitted-through-sexual-activity-study-3182159

 

 

 

 

Please also stop playing down the potential other means of infection. This is irresponsible.

 

 

 


You are completely missing the point. 95% is significant even if it is suspected. 
 

Had the report been reversed, meaning if the report read transmission was suspected to have occured through non-sexual activity in 95% of those infected, then those who have high sex drive will feel more assured. But the reality is 95% infection is through sexual activity. 
 

You are the one taking snippets and misinterpreting. You said the infection could have spread by kissing and not by anal or oral penetration. Are anal and oral penetration not consider sexual activities? 
 

You should stop playing down sexual activity as a high risk of infection. 

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On 7/27/2022 at 10:36 PM, singalion said:

 

Don't you think it is obvious to BW readers who is missing the point in this discussion ???

 

 

 

Probably, there will be more local cases day by day.

 

the problem is the long "incubation " period for monkeypox, which is about 3 weeks.

 

That means infectious people will spread the virus around 3 weeks until they develop the first serious symptoms...

 

All depends how many different sex partner the guys had so far...

 

I assume that Singapore will hit 50 within the next 7 - 14 days...

 

 


It is obvious to BW readers you are the one and not Guest Why who is missing the pointing in this discussion.
 

You just want to be right but the more you post, you just expose more your inability to refute other people and come up with incoherent and illogical points. 

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1. Did Monkeypox come from gays? No. It is first identified in a baby in Congo in 1970. A virus doesn't care who it infects, it just needs a host and a route of transmission.

 

2. Is Monkeypox sexually transmitted? No. It is spread through skin to skin contact, inhaling water droplets from infected, shared surfaces. Sex is just one way to get all the above routes, as is massage, as is caregiving.

 

3. The first case of SARS in Singapore is a lady who infected her family and pastor who died while she survived. People resisted calling the disease a China disease, although it was first identified in Guangzhou and the lady got it from a doctor from Guangzhou because they shared the same lift in the same building in Hongkong. No one called SARS a Hongkong virus, a family virus, a pastor virus.

 

Why? Because a virus doesn't care who, it just needs hosts and a route of transmission.

 

4. When the Nipah virus had an outbreak in Malaysia, it came from fruit bats and pigs then jumped to human to human and killed 17 of the 18 people who got it. It resurfaced in Kerala India. Nobody calls it the Malaysian or Indian virus. 

 

Why? Because a virus doesn't care who, it just needs hosts and a route of transmission.

 

5. When Covid first reported from Wuhan Huanan Market, ppl resisted calling it the Wuhan virus. When there is a cluster at Grace Assembly of God in Singapore, when it was spreading widely because of a church of believers super spreader event starting from one particular old infected lady in South Korea, doesnt matter if they are a cult or not, no one calls Covid the elderly virus or the church virus.

 

Why? Because a virus doesn't care who, it just needs hosts and a route of transmission.

 

6. HIV doesn't care who, it likely came from animal handling, swept through impoverished Africa and Thailand. It spreads to pregnant mothers and children, just as they do to drug users, homosexuals, heterosexuals. It just needs hosts and routes of transmission.

 

It was only when activists fought the stigmatization of patients who were mostly gays, not until people came to understand and accept that HIV/Aids is not "just a gay virus" that research and public health intervention made the progress it did through science and medicine and today it is a manageable disease with medicine for prevention and management so patients can still live their lives out.

 

7. Is Monkeypox unfortunately now spreading among mostly men who have sex with men? Yes. So please be safe and avoid high risk areas and activities.

 

8. Would it only spread among gays? No. There are now pediatric cases. Again, we need to fight and guard against stigmatization and blaming the patients. A virus just needs hosts and routes.

 

9. Do not use gays to spread your favorite personal beliefs, however enticing. Only the unthinking and uncaring still do it in 2022. No one is going to change their minds overnight and adopt new beliefs because there's another excuse to scapegoat the gays. Grow up, as a basic human being and if you so believe, grow up as a truly spiritual person, focus on your capacity for human compassion instead of the angst and fear of gay people.

 

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