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Even though it is not as crowded as before, there will still be around 40-45 guys at its peak on skin nights. and this is considered very crowded for some saunas already. Good thing is the crowd is much younger and hornier than before, never fail to pick up guys in the large backroom.

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4 hours ago, Guest Guest said:

If there is a Covid case at Keybox, what do we do?

 

MOH will need the patient to declare the places he has visited. Then they will go thru the visitors' record (based on membership card) of KB on that day he visited and commence contact tracing.

 

Also, MOH will include family members of those traced. The embarrassment will be when MOH inform them that you have visited KB where patient was known, thats why they too are being contact traced.

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13 minutes ago, Guest Igconito said:

 

MOH will need the patient to declare the places he has visited. Then they will go thru the visitors' record (based on membership card) of KB on that day he visited and commence contact tracing.

 

Also, MOH will include family members of those traced. The embarrassment will be when MOH inform them that you have visited KB where patient was known, thats why they too are being contact traced.

It is not only your family members but also your coworkers. They all will know that you are going to KB and have close contact with positive case. 

 

Who dares to go these places? 

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No need to keep spreading fear to discourage patrons from going saunas.

 

We are adults. Those who want play, already know the risk and consequences. 

 

At the end of the day, it is a probability game. See whether u suay or not lo.

 

The virus will be around for quite some time. So yeah, for me, I will still go.

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10 hours ago, Guest Life goes on said:

No need to keep spreading fear to discourage patrons from going saunas.

 

We are adults. Those who want play, already know the risk and consequences. 

 

At the end of the day, it is a probability game. See whether u suay or not lo.

 

The virus will be around for quite some time. So yeah, for me, I will still go.

 

Yes

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14 hours ago, Guest Igconito said:

 

MOH will need the patient to declare the places he has visited. Then they will go thru the visitors' record (based on membership card) of KB on that day he visited and commence contact tracing.

 

Also, MOH will include family members of those traced. The embarrassment will be when MOH inform them that you have visited KB where patient was known, thats why they too are being contact traced.

 

13 hours ago, Guest KTG said:

It is not only your family members but also your coworkers. They all will know that you are going to KB and have close contact with positive case. 

 

Who dares to go these places? 

 

bull shit is what i say

 

some sad people are so vested in making sure other people do not have fun

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2 hours ago, Guest jjlin said:

 

 

bull shit is what i say

 

some sad people are so vested in making sure other people do not have fun

 

Well, when you kena the virus there, pls remember what you said here.

 

Good luck having fun !

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17 hours ago, Guest Igconito said:

 

MOH will need the patient to declare the places he has visited. Then they will go thru the visitors' record (based on membership card) of KB on that day he visited and commence contact tracing.

 

Also, MOH will include family members of those traced. The embarrassment will be when MOH inform them that you have visited KB where patient was known, thats why they too are being contact traced.

 

yes. this is true...i.m doing contact tracing... and it is by law that confirm cases individuals have to declare.... and you cant hide the truth for very long. As phone calls are being made, if discrepancies happens, the individual will be call in to declare again... now its punishable by law for lying and hiding the truth, even partly.

 

and its human nature to be curious... anyone who gets a phone call from MOH will ask when, from who, and from where... the embarrassment is very real from your coworkers and relatives especially if you are not OUT.

 

the scenario is simple, all the big clusters of infection - the 2 churches, the mosque in KL, and the dinners gathering at safra ALL CLOSED DOWN by order... the local news will have a field day when the next cluster of infection comes from a gay sauna. This is really unwanted attention in my opinion.  

 

this is not spreading fear! situation and scenerios presented are very real.

 

think about it.

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3 hours ago, Guest jjlin said:

 

 

bull shit is what i say

 

some sad people are so vested in making sure other people do not have fun

 

nobody is against anybody having "fun"... but this is a time to be socially responsible... remember gay saunas in singapore is pretty much "underground". locals adopt a dont talk dont tell attitute... if the next clusters of infection comes from here... MOH, by laws will have to report,  we are then all brought out to the surface, lying under the sun! i dont fancy that

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18 minutes ago, mith said:

 

nobody is against anybody having "fun"... but this is a time to be socially responsible... remember gay saunas in singapore is pretty much "underground". locals adopt a dont talk dont tell attitute... if the next clusters of infection comes from here... MOH, by laws will have to report,  we are then all brought out to the surface, lying under the sun! i dont fancy that

Agree... There are many in our society that are still very much against gays.  They will use any excuse to see us "eliminated"  Best be responsible and considerate, not to turn any Sauna into a "Cluster" and than those haters will have very good excuse to force the authority to Close all gay Saunas permanently. Like they did to all the gay saunas during the HIV epidemic.

 

 

 

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7 minutes ago, Fit4Masc said:

Agree... There are many in our society that are still very much against gays.  They will use any excuse to see us "eliminated"  Best be responsible and considerate, not to turn any Sauna into a "Cluster" and than those haters will have very good excuse to force the authority to Close all gay Saunas permanently. Like they did to all the gay saunas during the HIV epidemic.

 

 

 

 

Well said.  This is the best time to close the sauna for renovation and upgrading.  Operating it now is not worth the effort and risk of closing down by authority if it become a cluster of infection.

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On 3/13/2020 at 11:14 AM, Guest guest said:

Hey GM, 

How cum you never notice that this discussion is moving into the Virus topic? 

 

Ask these idiots to get the fuck back to the topic !!

 

 

Totally! There is no din about covid-19 for instance over at Hook’s side. Enough already it’s getting old!!! 

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14 minutes ago, Since u r here said:

clap clap, like what mith mentioned....

this is a forum - anyone has the right to discuss and share their frank opinions, but that doesnt mmean the person is enforcing  a rule on everyone


my  frequent waxing shop just emailed all clients that they have a covid case on 17th or is it 18march (nothing to be alarmed), the clients who goes there likely a huge portion are gays too! so for sure contact tracing wil be done.......i have been pondering this issue but i just cant control myself stepping into a sauna

 

 

Beat your own meat whenever you feel the urge.  

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Question.

 

If you'd really wanna have fun with someone but no place to do so. Would you go to Keybox? I haven't been there since the whole Covid thing started. But what if go there just to have fun with one person and leave? 

 

Oh. And thinking of going at 10pm. Guess not many guys there at that time. 

 

Would YOU take the risk? 

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1 hour ago, Magenta_Lilies said:

Question.

 

If you'd really wanna have fun with someone but no place to do so. Would you go to Keybox? I haven't been there since the whole Covid thing started. But what if go there just to have fun with one person and leave? 

 

Oh. And thinking of going at 10pm. Guess not many guys there at that time. 

 

Would YOU take the risk? 

Wat if this one person suay suay has d virus?

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4 hours ago, Magenta_Lilies said:

Question.

 

If you'd really wanna have fun with someone but no place to do so. Would you go to Keybox? I haven't been there since the whole Covid thing started. But what if go there just to have fun with one person and leave? 

 

Oh. And thinking of going at 10pm. Guess not many guys there at that time. 

 

Would YOU take the risk? 

The issue is that if there any positive case with the Covid you will be in the contact list. Who cares you will touch or suck this guy? 

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Let's not be over paranoid until you are even scared to set foot outside of your own door step. If you look at the current surge, it is mainly due to the rise in imported cases. Just take the necessary precautions to reduce your exposure to contaminated surfaces & human contacts by :

1. wearing slippers at all times

2. bring your own Clorox or Lysol spray/wipes to disinfect the lockers, mattress, etc - don't rely & expect sauna staff to clean up immediately; 

3. avoid the large open backroom, cruise in the corridors/steam/dry sauna room. The heat alone should enough to kill most viruses.

4. report anyone who cough or sneeze to the management for further action

5. avoid using the jacuzzi, water cooler & gym (not before disinfecting with Clorox spray)

6. make sure you take a clear look at your partner under bright lights to see if he is neat & clean - any dandruff, bad breath, coarse & breaking voice due to sinus or sore throat, etc.

6. practise safe sex, bj with condom & no kissing.

 

6 hours ago, Guest clean up said:

This period best to stay low. KB to clean up. repair etc....

This is the best advice so far,  really getting rather tired of those preachy & fear mongering posts. I feel KB management should seriously consider taking 2 weeks break in desperate time like this to curb the potential spread thru the community given the large gathering of people in a small enclosed shoplot. I'm pretty sure their landlord knows what kind of business they are renting to and will be empathetic enough to give them some rental rebate for a short temporary shutdown. Good time to take a short break to prepare yourself for a longer journey ahead. To cut down on their losses, maybe can consider providing temporary accommodation relief to those Malaysian affected by the current lockdown.

Hope this helps.

 

 

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Missed out an important point :

8. Don't anyhow touch or grab body parts , try expressing interest with eye contacts, a smile or a friendly introduction.

 

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5 hours ago, Guest Client said:

Missed out an important point :

8. Don't anyhow touch or grab body parts , try expressing interest with eye contacts, a smile or a friendly introduction.

 

 

So... 🤢🤢🤢

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8 hours ago, Guest Client said:

Let's not be over paranoid until you are even scared to set foot outside of your own door step. If you look at the current surge, it is mainly due to the rise in imported cases. Just take the necessary precautions to reduce your exposure to contaminated surfaces & human contacts by :

1. wearing slippers at all times

2. bring your own Clorox or Lysol spray/wipes to disinfect the lockers, mattress, etc - don't rely & expect sauna staff to clean up immediately; 

3. avoid the large open backroom, cruise in the corridors/steam/dry sauna room. The heat alone should enough to kill most viruses.

4. report anyone who cough or sneeze to the management for further action

5. avoid using the jacuzzi, water cooler & gym (not before disinfecting with Clorox spray)

6. make sure you take a clear look at your partner under bright lights to see if he is neat & clean - any dandruff, bad breath, coarse & breaking voice due to sinus or sore throat, etc.

6. practise safe sex, bj with condom & no kissing.

 

This is the best advice so far,  really getting rather tired of those preachy & fear mongering posts. I feel KB management should seriously consider taking 2 weeks break in desperate time like this to curb the potential spread thru the community given the large gathering of people in a small enclosed shoplot. I'm pretty sure their landlord knows what kind of business they are renting to and will be empathetic enough to give them some rental rebate for a short temporary shutdown. Good time to take a short break to prepare yourself for a longer journey ahead. To cut down on their losses, maybe can consider providing temporary accommodation relief to those Malaysian affected by the current lockdown.

Hope this helps.

 

 

 

 

Good....lets help fight Corvid19

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Guest don't touch
15 hours ago, Magenta_Lilies said:

Question.

 

If you'd really wanna have fun with someone but no place to do so. Would you go to Keybox? I haven't been there since the whole Covid thing started. But what if go there just to have fun with one person and leave? 

 

Oh. And thinking of going at 10pm. Guess not many guys there at that time. 

 

Would YOU take the risk? 

How about a 2 hour hotel?

 

The virus can be everywhere, even on the change the guy at the entrance returns to you after payment or any surface inside the premises or the locker key. It just needs someone to cough close to you and hello!

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1 minute ago, Guest don't touch said:

How about a 2 hour hotel?

 

The virus can be everywhere, even on the change the guy at the entrance returns to you after payment or any surface inside the premises or the locker key. It just needs someone to cough close to you and hello!

 

So easy to use your own words against you haha. Go & preach on the other sauna threads lah.

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20 hours ago, Guest KB client said:

The issue is that if there any positive case with the Covid you will be in the contact list. Who cares you will touch or suck this guy? 

 

Provided KB has all the members information updated. 

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1 hour ago, LeanMature said:

 

Provided KB has all the members information updated. 

They have kept records of our personal information (ID numbers...) when we registered. 

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https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/singapore/covid19-events-gatherings-suspended-june-250-participants-12560620

 

"All events and gatherings with 250 or more participants attending at any one time must be suspended to reduce the risk of further local transmission of COVID-19, the Ministry of Health (MOH) announced on Friday (Mar 20). 

This is an expansion of the previous requirement for ticketed cultural, sports and entertainment events to be limited to fewer than 250 participants, said MOH in a press release. 

The requirement goes into effect immediately until Jun 30, and applies to all kinds of gatherings, including patrons at food and beverage outlets, religious events, public entertainment venues as well as meetings, incentives, conferences and exhibitions."

 

I guess this is the GG moment when all the saunas have to close. It'll only be a question of will they close on their own accord or will they wait for MOH/MHA to come up and enforce closure. 

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5 hours ago, Guest Client said:

Don't forget to post on the TenMenClub & Shogun threads. 

👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

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For events and gatherings with fewer than 250 participants, organisers and event venue operators are required to implement the necessary precautionary measures to ensure separation of at least a metre between participants," said MOH. 

These measures include spaced seating at events and reduced mingling of participants such as during meal times. 

Events and gatherings must also comply with the existing guidance, which includes: 

  • Improving ventilation and advising participants to reduce contact with others;
  • Putting in place temperature and health screening measures, and turning away people who are unwell, and
  • Putting in place measures to facilitate contact tracing if needed, such as obtaining contact details of participants.

"We knew this was going to be disruptive, so we started with an advisory so people could get used to it. But this is no longer an advisory," Mr Wong said.

"Now, we are going to work through all the event venue operators, whether it's a hotel or town council renting out a multi-purpose hall, to make sure that all of these conditions are fulfilled."

The stricter safe distancing measures aim to limit close contact and large gatherings of people in close proximity over a prolonged duration, said MOH. 

This comes after the authorities studied the pattern of transmission among locally transmitted cases and found that many were infected during events and social gatherings, as well as interactions between colleagues at workplaces.

 

Be safe & play safe everyone!

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6 hours ago, Guest Client said:

Don't forget to post on the TenMenClub & Shogun threads. 

 

 

Both have no membership records, total contact tracing is ZEROi if covid19 kanna

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2 hours ago, Guest NO NO said:

 

 

Both have no membership records, total contact tracing is ZEROi if covid19 kanna

 

U do know that there are CCTVs right? If contact tracing really happens, no one will escape.

 

Just cross fingers and play at own risk.

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18 hours ago, Guest Life goes on said:

 

U do know that there are CCTVs right? If contact tracing really happens, no one will escape.

 

Just cross fingers and play at own risk.

 

 

How was last night skin night turn out ?

 

any updates ?

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This is really confusing times because some of us may have more responsibility... like if we have aged parents and have to come in close contact with them quite often...

 

Anyways, just thinking what really is contact tracing?

 

Most of us may be thinking or overthinking of it in terms of ramifications like our family will come to know...

 

But contact tracing is between you and the contact tracer, your family members wont be present in the same room of the "interrogation"

 

So that means nobody other than the contact tracer ( aka the organization and the garmen) will come to know that you have been to a gay sauna... is it not possible that you tell your family that you are under quarantine because you had coffee with someone who is related to this and related.... to some cluster?

 

So unless you don't feel comfortable that the garmen comes to know you are gay or visit a gay sauna, contact tracing is nothing to be that afraid of and should be welcomed

 

I suppose we may see the day the saunas have to be closed down, if it gets there

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On 3/19/2020 at 10:47 AM, mith said:

 

yes. this is true...i.m doing contact tracing... and it is by law that confirm cases individuals have to declare.... and you cant hide the truth for very long. As phone calls are being made, if discrepancies happens, the individual will be call in to declare again... now its punishable by law for lying and hiding the truth, even partly.

 

and its human nature to be curious... anyone who gets a phone call from MOH will ask when, from who, and from where... the embarrassment is very real from your coworkers and relatives especially if you are not OUT.

 

the scenario is simple, all the big clusters of infection - the 2 churches, the mosque in KL, and the dinners gathering at safra ALL CLOSED DOWN by order... the local news will have a field day when the next cluster of infection comes from a gay sauna. This is really unwanted attention in my opinion.  

 

this is not spreading fear! situation and scenerios presented are very real.

 

think about it.

oops ok, I beg to retract what i said... so the contact tracer is obliged to tell your people where you got exposed? 

 

Cool thanks for info

 

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32 minutes ago, ilikewhiteguys said:

oops ok, I beg to retract what i said... so the contact tracer is obliged to tell your people where you got exposed? 

 

Cool thanks for info

 

 

 

It  will be real news....men got corvid19 from gay sauna....he maintained social distancing though

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6 hours ago, ilikewhiteguys said:

This is really confusing times because some of us may have more responsibility... like if we have aged parents and have to come in close contact with them quite often...

 

Anyways, just thinking what really is contact tracing?

 

Most of us may be thinking or overthinking of it in terms of ramifications like our family will come to know...

 

But contact tracing is between you and the contact tracer, your family members wont be present in the same room of the "interrogation"

 

So that means nobody other than the contact tracer ( aka the organization and the garmen) will come to know that you have been to a gay sauna... is it not possible that you tell your family that you are under quarantine because you had coffee with someone who is related to this and related.... to some cluster?

 

So unless you don't feel comfortable that the garmen comes to know you are gay or visit a gay sauna, contact tracing is nothing to be that afraid of and should be welcomed

 

I suppose we may see the day the saunas have to be closed down, if it gets there

So... go sauna this week. Too horny to stay home. 

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11 hours ago, ilikewhiteguys said:

This is really confusing times because some of us may have more responsibility... like if we have aged parents and have to come in close contact with them quite often...

 

Anyways, just thinking what really is contact tracing?

 

Most of us may be thinking or overthinking of it in terms of ramifications like our family will come to know...

 

But contact tracing is between you and the contact tracer, your family members wont be present in the same room of the "interrogation"

 

So that means nobody other than the contact tracer ( aka the organization and the garmen) will come to know that you have been to a gay sauna... is it not possible that you tell your family that you are under quarantine because you had coffee with someone who is related to this and related.... to some cluster?

 

So unless you don't feel comfortable that the garmen comes to know you are gay or visit a gay sauna, contact tracing is nothing to be that afraid of and should be welcomed

 

I suppose we may see the day the saunas have to be closed down, if it gets there

 I think the scenario would be like if someone contracted the virus from a sauna the authorities would then acquire a full list  of people  who had been there since the visit of the infected person. The establishment would obviously be shut down for a full disinfection and probably prohibited to open for business till further notice. The infected person would be assigned an infected persons number and TV and newspapers will announce that the point of infection would be the sauna. All other saunas would probably be forced to shut down too as a preventative measure. If you are on the list of people who have been to the infected sauna, they are likely to call you and maybe even knock on your door looking for you. You have to be home quarantined for 14 days. If you are unlucky enough to be infected yourself then and your family members, friends and working colleagues that have been in contact with you  will need to be quarantined as well. There goes your 14 days of annual leave and if you are lucky enough to survive it, maybe you can enjoy whatever annual leave you have remaining. The very thought of it all just makes me not want to go to a sauna for now.

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3 hours ago, thatsamore said:

 I think the scenario would be like if someone contracted the virus from a sauna the authorities would then acquire a full list  of people  who had been there since the visit of the infected person. The establishment would obviously be shut down for a full disinfection and probably prohibited to open for business till further notice. The infected person would be assigned an infected persons number and TV and newspapers will announce that the point of infection would be the sauna. All other saunas would probably be forced to shut down too as a preventative measure. If you are on the list of people who have been to the infected sauna, they are likely to call you and maybe even knock on your door looking for you. You have to be home quarantined for 14 days. If you are unlucky enough to be infected yourself then and your family members, friends and working colleagues that have been in contact with you  will need to be quarantined as well. There goes your 14 days of annual leave and if you are lucky enough to survive it, maybe you can enjoy whatever annual leave you have remaining. The very thought of it all just makes me not want to go to a sauna for now.

 

15 hours ago, ilikewhiteguys said:

This is really confusing times because some of us may have more responsibility... like if we have aged parents and have to come in close contact with them quite often...

 

Anyways, just thinking what really is contact tracing?

 

Most of us may be thinking or overthinking of it in terms of ramifications like our family will come to know...

 

But contact tracing is between you and the contact tracer, your family members wont be present in the same room of the "interrogation"

 

So that means nobody other than the contact tracer ( aka the organization and the garmen) will come to know that you have been to a gay sauna... is it not possible that you tell your family that you are under quarantine because you had coffee with someone who is related to this and related.... to some cluster?

 

So unless you don't feel comfortable that the garmen comes to know you are gay or visit a gay sauna, contact tracing is nothing to be that afraid of and should be welcomed

 

I suppose we may see the day the saunas have to be closed down, if it gets there

 

 

You Corvid19-ed, you hai yourself , you also hai sauna close shop. all contacts be linked.

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18 hours ago, ilikewhiteguys said:

oops ok, I beg to retract what i said... so the contact tracer is obliged to tell your people where you got exposed? 

 

Cool thanks for info

 

 

not obliged or by laws, but its only natural isnt it.

One day out of the blue your company boss gets a phone call to close office and perform disinfection protocol, and let the workers go home... of course the boss will ask, and the contact tracer would reply :

 

" case xxx, name xxx has tested positive for covid19, he's been link to a cluster here(aka sauna for example), please do the necessary arrangement " the boss is by law to disseminate the info down... how precise this boss wanna be, its up to him. and again very naturally, all your co-workers, and relatives, and family members who will be inconvenient, of course they are going to ask questions and find out who is the sabo king... 

 

same and similar if to inform his school, or home, or his church etc etc...

 

NOT FEAR MONGERING, so many cases already, one person ganna in dbs building, straight away closed building and front page news, one church, 2nd church got cases, front page news, and all churches are to closed or postponed serman, mosque same thing, why any( those guests members mainly) of you think saunas is different????

 

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7 hours ago, thatsamore said:

 I think the scenario would be like if someone contracted the virus from a sauna the authorities would then acquire a full list  of people  who had been there since the visit of the infected person. The establishment would obviously be shut down for a full disinfection and probably prohibited to open for business till further notice. The infected person would be assigned an infected persons number and TV and newspapers will announce that the point of infection would be the sauna. All other saunas would probably be forced to shut down too as a preventative measure. If you are on the list of people who have been to the infected sauna, they are likely to call you and maybe even knock on your door looking for you. You have to be home quarantined for 14 days. If you are unlucky enough to be infected yourself then and your family members, friends and working colleagues that have been in contact with you  will need to be quarantined as well. There goes your 14 days of annual leave and if you are lucky enough to survive it, maybe you can enjoy whatever annual leave you have remaining. The very thought of it all just makes me not want to go to a sauna for now.

 

yes, highly likely...

 

whats worse is.... the press and the anti-gay and the christian fanatics will use this opportunity to ban and closed these establishments for good. 

 

after the covid19 crisis over, it might be difficult to get licence and reopen similar establishments...

 

dont give them this opportunity.

 

PS - no need to attack me on this... this is just what i fear. 

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I agree with the above posts. let's think rationally. if a cluster were to be from a sauna, i think the contact tracing will link us to that cluster and it will be informed to all yr closed ones plus colleagues / company. Imagine you were the one that got called, you would also ask question like " who is the one ? where did he get from ?" so it is very probable that all yr closed ones will know you been to a sauna. Can anyone confirm that the contact officer will disclose all the information ?

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