Old Shogun Discussion (Moved to New Shogun @ Chinatown)

[Tsumetai]

This is, so far, the best fun I have ever have in my whole gay life. If you are the first or the third french kisser, please contact me.

Last saturday, I went to shogun again, hoping to meet the first and third french kisser that i had described before. I guess, good times are always once a lifetime, and it is not everytime that one person will be so lucky to get someone you like very much to have fun with. Anyway, last saturday nite, at shogun, I still have lots of french kissing fun. Compared to the first and third french kisser, of course, the french kisser standard on last saturday still a bit not so enjoying and not so passionate.

[orochi98]

Last saturday, I went to shogun again, hoping to meet the first and third french kisser that i had described before. I guess, good times are always once a lifetime, and it is not everytime that one person will be so lucky to get someone you like very much to have fun with. Anyway, last saturday nite, at shogun, I still have lots of french kissing fun. Compared to the first and third french kisser, of course, the french kisser standard on last saturday still a bit not so enjoying and not so passionate.

Well I do hope that we could arrange to meet for a french kissing session. Looking forward to meeting you soon.

[Tsumetai]

Well I do hope that we could arrange to meet for a french kissing session. Looking forward to meeting you soon.

yes, I can't wait till saturday. can we arrange to meet earlier this week, please?

[Guest stink room]

I like the New Re-launched Shogun. I'm a regular there. The extra maze is a good addition. However I just wish Vincent would fix the locks of the private rooms. The rooms cannot be locked or have no locks. What for having private rooms when someone can just open the door to see you having fun with someone. Anyway I do wish Vincent all the best, he;s losing weight and looking hot too. Will go to Shogun this Saturday. See you guys there.

Unfortunately ...the steam room has become a stink room.

[dienasaw]

Unfortunately ...the steam room has become a stink room.

hope it doesn't become another raw...

[Guest guest steam]

hope it doesn't become another raw...

I think Absolute's boss have to offer Shogun's boss a free pass to use its steamroom facilities so that he will realised how bad is his 'stink room'

[dienasaw]

I think Absolute's boss have to offer Shogun's boss a free pass to use its steamroom facilities so that he will realised how bad is his 'stink room'

so what, he will do nothing about it after that... or will he?

[Guest very disappointed]

so what, he will do nothing about it after that... or will he?

if he wants to do it, he already did it.. no need to wait until now....

[Guest confuse]

if he wants to do it, he already did it.. no need to wait until now....

Recently they have increase the price from $10-$15... and back to $12...I wonder waz is Shogun marketing strategy.Further he think that he could mark up the price without providing better facilities for its patron.Waz a disappointment for regular and I ever heard a first-timer told me he would not go there again bcos of its poor facilities.

[DERROY]

Unfortunately ...the steam room has become a stink room.

My dear, the very reason why there is a smell in the steam room is precisely because of the fact that there were some inconsiderate patrons who literary pass their urine in the steam room or even jery their fxxking cum onto the floor. If these people can refrain from the inconsiderate acts, I believe that there won't be any "stinking" smell in the room. Others can use the room in comfort. I am sure that if the same people do the same thing in Absolute, the Absolute boss would face the same problem. Furthermore Shogun in situated in the old shop house, what can you people expect? Renovation to the whole steam room or whole Shogun would require a bomb, you know.

Of course all of you here can suggest your feasible suggestions to the Shogun website, and see if the Shogun boss can know what remedy to do?

As for the entrance fees of the Shogun, I believe the fees were already been set since May 08. But honestly speaking, don't you think its rather much cheaper compared to Absolute.

[Guest haha]

My dear, the very reason why there is a smell in the steam room is precisely because of the fact that there were some inconsiderate patrons who literary pass their urine in the steam room or even jery their fxxking cum onto the floor. If these people can refrain from the inconsiderate acts, I believe that there won't be any "stinking" smell in the room. Others can use the room in comfort. I am sure that if the same people do the same thing in Absolute, the Absolute boss would face the same problem. Furthermore Shogun in situated in the old shop house, what can you people expect? Renovation to the whole steam room or whole Shogun would require a bomb, you know.

Of course all of you here can suggest your feasible suggestions to the Shogun website, and see if the Shogun boss can know what remedy to do?

As for the entrance fees of the Shogun, I believe the fees were already been set since May 08. But honestly speaking, don't you think its rather much cheaper compared to Absolute.

Wonder Shogun woud sustain its business despite steep competition n complaint of its facilities.

[dienasaw]

I don't get it, so just blame the customers and excuse themselves from having to do any cleaning?

[Guest very disappointed]

My dear, the very reason why there is a smell in the steam room is precisely because of the fact that there were some inconsiderate patrons who literary pass their urine in the steam room or even jery their fxxking cum onto the floor. If these people can refrain from the inconsiderate acts, I believe that there won't be any "stinking" smell in the room. Others can use the room in comfort. I am sure that if the same people do the same thing in Absolute, the Absolute boss would face the same problem. Furthermore Shogun in situated in the old shop house, what can you people expect? Renovation to the whole steam room or whole Shogun would require a bomb, you know.

Of course all of you here can suggest your feasible suggestions to the Shogun website, and see if the Shogun boss can know what remedy to do?

As for the entrance fees of the Shogun, I believe the fees were already been set since May 08. But honestly speaking, don't you think its rather much cheaper compared to Absolute.

First of all, since he knows there are incosiderate patrons urinating or cum in the steam room, all the more he should keep the steam room clean and wash it. Also, if he knows he cannot operate the steam room anymore, might as well close it so that no patrons can do inconsiderate things inside. Leaving the stinky smell inside the steamroom won't help and the stinkiness won't just disappear like that.

Yes, the entrance fee might be cheaper, but considering the state and usability of the facilities inside, do you think the price is justifiable? This is for you to judge and consider.

[Guest patrons]

I don't get it, so just blame the customers and excuse themselves from having to do any cleaning?

Dinesaw ,

I do agree with you and support what u have mentioned.It is not right to pay for premium price($$$15) and we do not get what we want.May be the owner think that all the patrons just want to have sxx for every visit.Imagine the steamrom can not be used for more than 8m months and the maintenaice notice is still PASTE in front of the door of steam room.I think they just want to SAVE ELECTRICITY.

[DERROY]

Come on everyone, the staff never excuse themselves from cleaning, in fact, I have seen the Shogun staff clean everytime I went there and spray the air refreshner, but still the inconsiderate people still do the same thing.

Patron you said :

I do agree with you and support what u have mentioned.It is not right to pay for premium price($$$15) and we do not get what we want.May be the owner think that all the patrons just want to have sxx for every visit.Imagine the steamrom can not be used for more than 8m months and the maintenaice notice is still PASTE in front of the door of steam room.I think they just want to SAVE ELECTRICITY.

Now I tell you : Doesn't everyone who goes to the saunas and and bars just for the sole purpose of hooking up a guy and have fun? Ask yourself why you go to all these places?

Saving electricity? How about switching on the lights and watching you having fun with yr partner openly?

And lastly, why pay more for some places when all of us come here for the same purpose?

[Guest Guest]

Now I tell you : Doesn't everyone who goes to the saunas and and bars just for the sole purpose of hooking up a guy and have fun? Ask yourself why you go to all these places?

Saving electricity? How about switching on the lights and watching you having fun with yr partner openly?

And lastly, why pay more for some places when all of us come here for the same purpose?

Well, saving electricity will of course see in what sense. Switching off the lights in such places like the cottage is not saving electricity, but a form of showing respect to the patrons. But switching off the electricity for some facilities and make it unusable doesn't make any sense.

Also, you say why pay more? Well, Shogun is also not the cheapest around. So why need to pay that price when the facilities are not maintained properly? Besides hooking up guys and have fun, don't we also go there to enjoy the other facilities? So are you telling me, because we pay that kind price, we expect to get this type of facilities?

Also, cleaning will also see to what extend. And spraying air refresher will only make the smell go away temporarily, it does not make the smell go away permanently.

[Guest SMELL]

Well, saving electricity will of course see in what sense. Switching off the lights in such places like the cottage is not saving electricity, but a form of showing respect to the patrons. But switching off the electricity for some facilities and make it unusable doesn't make any sense.

Also, you say why pay more? Well, Shogun is also not the cheapest around. So why need to pay that price when the facilities are not maintained properly? Besides hooking up guys and have fun, don't we also go there to enjoy the other facilities? So are you telling me, because we pay that kind price, we expect to get this type of facilities?

Also, cleaning will also see to what extend. And spraying air refresher will only make the smell go away temporarily, it does not make the smell go away permanently.

Guest

I do support what u have said.The staff only spray it when having their meal and I think is not for the purpose of sanitising the room.

[bachelor_boy26]

hi guys, im from malaysia and i plan to visit shogun during my visit to sg at the end of this month. which day do you think is the best day to visit shogun where there'll be lots of mature guys?

[dienasaw]

hi guys, im from malaysia and i plan to visit shogun during my visit to sg at the end of this month. which day do you think is the best day to visit shogun where there'll be lots of mature guys?

amazing! no amount of bad publicity will scare you away. you are a brave man... or desperate?

[erection day]

Come on dienasaw, give Vincent, owner of Shogun, a break. This sauna may be not be your cup of tea but please refrain from discouraging others from going there. Vincent has to make a living too. Every local sauna here has got its own 'charm' and niche.

Well, bacherlor_boy, try to go on Fri or Sat nights. Those would be Shogun's busiest time. Do go with an open mind. Meet some friends. Have fun. Hope you have a relaxing time there.

[dienasaw]

aiyo, i am not the one to discourage him. i have not submitted negative posts about shogun, the others have done that! I merely responded to those criticisms and questioned shogun's responsibilities to its customers.

as for bachelor_boy26, i just thought he should exercise due care to read the discussion that has taken place so far and make his own decision. at the end of the day, it's his own decision. however, given the trend of negative comments in the thread so far, my exclamation about his desire to go remains

Edited August 6, 2008 by dienasaw

[bachelor_boy26]

desperate? hah! tell me which guy isn't? lol. from what i gather by reading the posts here, the place to look for mature guys are either diamond or shogun. somehow diamond don't sound that appealing to me, so i chose shogun. honestly, the facilities is secondary to me, i'm fine as long as it is clean. i'm looking for a friendly crowd and also helpful staff.

thanks for the input guys. i'm quite determined to sample some 'local delicacies' while i'm there will let you guys know what i think after my visit

Edited August 6, 2008 by bachelor_boy26

[mature30]

BB26

Do not set your expectation to high..

[Guest gymmo]

So has anyone tried the foot reflexology or the massage @ shogun.. is it good? and how many masseurs are there? i imagine there's only one actually.

[mature30]

Do they have valid licence to provide massage or not ?

[Guest gay]

Do they have valid licence to provide massage or not ?

Dont be such a tight ass? Oops, wrong comparison. Why dont u ask- do they have valid licence to allow gay sex or not... if you are so tight-fist about everything.

[Guest Guest]

Dont be such a tight ass? Oops, wrong comparison. Why dont u ask- do they have valid licence to allow gay sex or not... if you are so tight-fist about everything.

Don't you know, in singapore, you need a license to provide massage services? ... unless you are not a singaporean or you dun bother about it....

[Guest guest]

Don't you know, in singapore, you need a license to provide massage services? ... unless you are not a singaporean or you dun bother about it....

You nit picking asshole Singaporean. Its because of people like you that want "license this, license that" that made business cost spiral uncontrolled. And then later, you will be the one complaining why so expensive. I have little regard to scums like you. I do not hide that this is a personal attack. Do you visit home based massuers? Do you think they have license? Or are you going to run to the authorities to report of everything that is not licensed? You moron! Oh well, keep it up as a moron if you think that makes you a "smarter person". But to me you're just a smartass.

[Guest Guest]

You moron! Oh well, keep it up as a moron if you think that makes you a "smarter person". But to me you're just a smartass.

hehehe.... well well... now who is this moron calling other people moron... hahaha

[Guest Guest]

before you shout ur head off thinking that you are right that not getting massage service license in singapore for clubs/spa/sanua is correct, pls read this article first....

Massage Service License

[Guest guest]

before you shout ur head off thinking that you are right that not getting massage service license in singapore for clubs/spa/sanua is correct, pls read this article first....

Massage Service License

Ya Ya Ya you're right. You NEED to get a licence for massage. In fact, right here in Singapore, you need a licence for just about every damn thing. The point is, if Shogun hasn't got a licence (and we do not know if they actually got one), why bother to raise questions about are they licenced? Or maybe its just in you to make things difficult for others? If they're serving puffer fish and you're eating, I can understand the need for licence but just a massage in a cruise joint and you're asking if they're licenced? Come on, don't need to be so uptight. If you need to follow the law to the letter, don't even step into Shogun, whatever happens inside there are already against the law. You on kind of big self righteons prude.

[Guest Guest]

You on kind of big self righteons prude.

I heard someone crying... hahaha....

[kal]

Go sauna is for gay sex... who go sauna for a good sleep huh... gay sex in sauna is illegal i suppose.. now someone still wanna say got license for massage or not? who cares !!

[Guest Guest]

those who want to suck my cock need pay me license fee or else cannot suck.

[Guest I care]

those who want to suck my cock need pay me license fee or else cannot suck.

I guess our patron do not care but law prosecutor do...

[Guest guest too]

if u havent realised, gay sex is happening everywhere on the premises. and guess what, gay sex is illegal just like massage without license!

if the lawmakers wanted a field day at shogun do you think they'd go for gay sex or illegal massage? let me guess...

you are the perfect personification of one of those self righteous singaporeans who takes photos of people spitting and post it on stomp. what a stupid idiot.

[Guest dont worry]

if u havent realised, gay sex is happening everywhere on the premises. and guess what, gay sex is illegal just like massage without license!

if the lawmakers wanted a field day at shogun do you think they'd go for gay sex or illegal massage? let me guess...

you are the perfect personification of one of those self righteous singaporeans who takes photos of people spitting and post it on stomp. what a stupid idiot.

Guest,

Need not worry as Shogun owner is so pain hearted to remove its massage advertisment banner already in its home page.

[Guest -wyerde-]

Hey guys i was jus wondering, when you're in there, cruising, how would you know who is top or bottom?

[Guest chubyhulk]

to shogun vincent..i went there friday night.i see not many chub but i still enjoy to join them.there so good they give blangket if u stay over night.the staff very friendly but i saw the 1 of the staff the china man use the mop to clean the mattres(bed) why use the mop?u know mop for floor not for use for mattres..please take action about this.

[Guest -nudist-]

I was there last Fr too... unfortunately it's turning more and more into a Just Chasers night.... so few chubs and bears around.

Vincent, pls turn down the aircon in the PC corridor because while coming out of the warm shower naked, wah suddenly hit by icy cold air... no shiok I tell you. I caught the sniffles the next day.

Cottage is too dark now, sometimes I'd like to see the other person too. I prefer the earlier open concept, now it's too much of a labyrinth.

A message to the guys there - if you cruise someone and he says no, accept it and move on. Grabbing his dick or brushing his bum even though he's obviously avoiding you will not change his mind and suddenly make him super horny and want to have hot wild sex with you on the spot. Pls use your head and think.

[Guest Terrible]

to shogun vincent..i went there friday night.i see not many chub but i still enjoy to join them.there so good they give blangket if u stay over night.the staff very friendly but i saw the 1 of the staff the china man use the mop to clean the mattres(bed) why use the mop?u know mop for floor not for use for mattres..please take action about this.

OH MY GOODNESS! Wah lao.... how can be like this?... no wonder why i went there that night, after lying down on the mattress for awhile, i suddenly feel my body itching all over. I quickly get up and go shower to wash... now i know what caused the itchyness :swear: .... thats terrible!... shogun boss, pls do ur part in managing ur place and staff, this is no way to maintain ur mattress....

[Guest Agree]

Cottage is too dark now, sometimes I'd like to see the other person too. I prefer the earlier open concept, now it's too much of a labyrinth.

i can't agree more.. i keep hitting the benches alongside the maze in the cottage.. tell u, its no joke getting your toe hit against the wooden benches.. it so damn painful... whats the point of putting such extra things when it cause pain to ur customers..... :swear:

[Guest smelly towel]

Also the towels there very smelly...coz never dry properly

want to use it to wipe body clean ended up more 'dirty'

Please dont stinge on dryer...do something about the towel

[silversailorduo]

was a shogun 2 sundays ago.

Smelly towels is true. It was terrible.

The staircase was also smelly. Sweat or decomposing cum - no idea / don't want to know.

Place was so quiet

Private room was poorly maintained - unlockable, and dusty window sill.

Lucky its only $10. I suppose thats what you get for that type of price.

[Guest -nudist-]

was a shogun 2 sundays ago.

Smelly towels is true. It was terrible.

The staircase was also smelly. Sweat or decomposing cum - no idea / don't want to know.

Place was so quiet

Private room was poorly maintained - unlockable, and dusty window sill.

Lucky its only $10. I suppose thats what you get for that type of price.

Are u sure you were at Shogun? It sounds more like Raw!

My towel was ok, no smell at all. The staircase was ok too, I wonder where you got the smell from?

There were quite a lot of people on Friday night.

In spite of the minor shortcomings I find Shogun to be one of the better saunas in Singapore.

- the showers are clean and nice

- it's nice to lie down naked on the big mattresses in the TV room (sometimes you get to see some action!)

- you get free drinks

- lockers are ok

- people are generally decent (unlike Raw!) and friendly

- the Art room is cosy

- staff is helpful and approachable

etc.

Of course 17 is better in terms of facilities.... but since 17 jacked up its price to $27 I never stepped foot into that place again!

[steve69]

Of course 17 is better in terms of facilities.... but since 17 jacked up its price to $27 I never stepped foot into that place again!

Correct. I would rather spend $27 for a plate of Chicken Rice.

[Guest patron]

Are u sure you were at Shogun? It sounds more like Raw!

My towel was ok, no smell at all. The staircase was ok too, I wonder where you got the smell from?

There were quite a lot of people on Friday night.

In spite of the minor shortcomings I find Shogun to be one of the better saunas in Singapore.

- the showers are clean and nice

- it's nice to lie down naked on the big mattresses in the TV room (sometimes you get to see some action!)

- you get free drinks

- lockers are ok

- people are generally decent (unlike Raw!) and friendly

- the Art room is cosy

- staff is helpful and approachable

etc.

Of course 17 is better in terms of facilities.... but since 17 jacked up its price to $27 I never stepped foot into that place again!

Are you sure u been to shogun or u are talking about 17

[Guest gay11]

I agree with u..yup it's true shogun the best compare to raw smelly the floor a lot the sperm.shogun very clean look at the bathroom clean nice place .the price quick cheap.

[silversailorduo]

Are u sure you were at Shogun? It sounds more like Raw!

I am quite sure. At the locker area there were 2 posters of japanese chubs.

Maybe it was the wrong time, wrong day, wrong towel. I was there at about 3pm on sunday. Crowd was so sparse... and toilet facilities were like those in your open-air coffeeshop...

dunno. Whats the best time and date to go?

[Guest -nudist-]

Are you sure u been to shogun or u are talking about 17

17 got big mattresses in the TV room meh? got free drinks meh? got Art room meh?

next time switch on your brain before you reply.