Questions About Military / Police / Ns - Enlistment / Medical Checkup & Ord Checkup Ffi (Compiled)

[Guest Trianon]

Hey Guys

Just wanna check with those who may know. I may be retaking my A Levels as a private candidate next year end-ish. Problem being, i am supposed to report for my BMT coming Feb. Does this mean I can only retake my A's after the entire 2 year army duration or will they give me days off on the exam dates?

Any piece of help will be appreciated! =D

Thanks in advance! =)

hey, first off i wanna encourage you for having the courage to try again... it's not an easy path you're considering, so reach out for help (here or wherever) when you need it!~

As a private A-level candidate, you technically dont need to take any classes; you could just register (and pay) and then show up for your exams on the day itself (or otherwise fulfill the subjects' assessment requirements).

Being in NS may or may not be an issue, depending on what unit and vocation you are posted to. If you are in the command school track (Specialist or Officer) then you are likely to spend a good deal of the first year and more of NS in busy training. You are not likely to get time off to attend preparatory classes, certainly you should not bank on it. Even if you were an NCO (rank CPL and below), your NS schedule would keep you in camp *at least* for extended office hours, if not even during the weeknights if you were posted to an active / stay-in unit. It's not oppressive, just that in your case it hinders your time flexibility.

Having been through your A levels once already, you should have a healthy respect for the amount of preparation that is involved towards these exams, so take that into consideration when you anticipate doing 'full time NS' and balancing A level preparations.

Some options you might consider:

1) Defer taking the actual exams until after your NS (if you enlist in Feb 2011, it would mean taking the exams in 2013)

2) Study as best you can during NS, taking your exams towards the end of your NSF tenure (end of 2012) when you *might* have more flexibility to take leave for exams. Not a guarantee though...

3) Try to balance taking your As in 2011, juggling NS. A herculean feat, imho.

I have my opinion on what might be best, but I'm not here to unduly influence you one way or the other. =)

My memory is fuzzy, but I think I level registration is still later than Febuary, so you should get a decent idea of what a full NS training schedule is like before you commit any money towards exam registration.

As a final note, the two important factors in determining your chances at taking a decent shot at private As during NS are:

- your NS vocation (some will have more time than others, and by this I *dont* mean that clerks/storemen have more time than combat troops)

- your NS platoon commander / company commander. They are the ones who determine work/training deployment and will be the ones who decide whether to let you out for classes/exams. Sometimes their own hands are tied so they cant help you even if they wanted to. Other times you get sadistic egomaniacs who take pleasure in exercising their power of denial as a means of control.

I've said alot, perhaps too much, but I hope the information will be of some use.

I'm sure that there are others reading / lurking on this forum who will also have useful insights, even personal experiences of successful (or less than successful) attempts at what you are contemplating.

Take care,

~t.

[Guest Mart]

Take it the second year of your NS. It will be much better. By second year, you will be more flexible in your vocation. After taking the A-levels exam , you may apply for university. If I calculate, you can only join uni during 2013, right after serving NS. Correct me if I am wrong.

Why would you want to hurry now? That's what my frend did too. All you need to Sonia to plan well.

Hope I helped!

[Guest guest]

you can try asking for a deferment now with documented proof as a candidate or simply register yourself in a private school.

[Guest Erotictales]

A wild try here.

Anybody had their army checkup in 1991, and 1992?

I am asking, because of this vague memory. Right before seeing the MO for the very famous check, there's a waiting room. There was something in that room. Tied to the chairs. A chart of sorts. Showing you what's the procedure inside.

Anyone remembers that chart?

[Guest Erotictales]

Guess no one had the good fortune to see those pictures where the NSF posed, in undies then nude, to demonstrate the positions needed for the MO checks.

Regretable!

[Guest Guest]

Move on.

What's so special.

[Guest mango_juice]

really? posters of nude nsf? describe more please

[Guest RandomGuy]

Guess no one had the good fortune to see those pictures where the NSF posed, in undies then nude, to demonstrate the positions needed for the MO checks.

Regretable!

Those medical examination charts that detail what to do when the MO examine you is it?

like turn head to the left/right then cough while the MO check you?

reach down to feet then the MO will run his hand on your back to check for skeletal deformities eg lordosis,scoliosis?

The hearing test clap clap.

Nope Forgot already......

[Guest Erotictales]

Well, if you forgotten or think it's nothing special, I think you're thinking of the actual type of medical chart.

[Guest Random Guy]

Well, if you forgotten or think it's nothing special, I think you're thinking of the actual type of medical chart.

But.....

if you mean the OCS cadet who post in that chart.....

And the suspense build up....

[Guest Erotictales]

Ah, I finally get a decent answer.

Now was he bespectacled? LOL. And which photo was the nude one? LOL.

[lien]

is it true that now when the ns men are enlisted, they will be going through a 'gay test'.

in which, all the men will strip naked and stand in one straight line then order to jump.

the men who 'stands up' means its gay.

just wondering, if theres such test and what is the point to it?

[Guest ArmyRegular]

haha... first time I heard of this kind of test. I'm working in Army Medical Centre for long time. never heard of this.

If it is a test, what a stupid test. didnt meet the objective.

[oralb]

oh my... it shows how all those years of total defense educations had failed...

[luciferbear]

Lien.... you MUST be pretty young and very free...

bb via LB

[Guest Medic]

is it true that now when the ns men are enlisted, they will be going through a 'gay test'.

in which, all the men will strip naked and stand in one straight line then order to jump.

the men who 'stands up' means its gay.

just wondering, if theres such test and what is the point to it?

No, the gay test is as follow. 1st to get you naked. You're put into 2 rooms: one screening movie of girls naked and in bikini and the other one having movie showing gay pxxn. The medics will see how you react to what you are seeing i.e. whether you got an erection and measure your hardness.

[GachiMuchi]

is it true that now when the ns men are enlisted, they will be going through a 'gay test'.

in which, all the men will strip naked and stand in one straight line then order to jump.

the men who 'stands up' means its gay.

just wondering, if theres such test and what is the point to it?

So, after they find out you had 'stand up' they will ask u to go into another room where they will milk you until you come into a little glass cup and they will ask u to bend over and put on gloves and lube your ass and check to see if your ass is virgin or used.

After that they will tag you as gay in your folder and later they will reveal it to your unit, where you will be put to 'special service' for your unit. It will be stand-by-bed for u, every nite except weekends.

[Eddy]

is it true that now when the ns men are enlisted, they will be going through a 'gay test'.

in which, all the men will strip naked and stand in one straight line then order to jump.

the men who 'stands up' means its gay.

just wondering, if theres such test and what is the point to it?

This is a joke right?

After they find out you are gay, they will send you to a special platoon to train to be victims of POW S&M and butt slaves to VIPs and White Horses.

Then afterwards you will be assigned to units where your position will be under the table of officers to lick and suck on their balls why they kick you in the face every 10 mins for believing in such a stupid gay test...

[Guest alien]

Hahaha, this is the most funny joke i have ever heard! :lol

[jaky]

Don't be so bad lah.

lien, there is no such test that I know of. But you may be asked to strip to your underwear and wait for the doctor to assess you (together with 1 or 2 other guys).

The doc will ask you to

1. squat down = check for flat feet (I guess),

2. bend down from waist to touch your toes = heck for spine problem, and

3. pull down your underwear to knee level and give a loud cough = check for hernia (spelling?)

The doc will also ask if you are a homosexual too. So if you want, you can declare but I think not many do so.

Well if you get arouse while doing (3) or looking at others.... this may give the doc a hint of your orientation. But the aircon is so cold, I guess the guys, doc or medic must be damn HOT to make you stand!

Edited February 22, 2011 by jaky

[Guest Die cock standing]

I dont think It will make me stand even a guy naked in front of me.

I h been to china public bathroom... it does not stimulate my G cells even though everyone is naked... (unless someone try to rub my body...)

[Guest jayy]

Dicks get hard all the time for all kinds of reasons (or no reason at all).

[Guest G]

is it true that now when the ns men are enlisted, they will be going through a 'gay test'.

in which, all the men will strip naked and stand in one straight line then order to jump.

the men who 'stands up' means its gay.

just wondering, if theres such test and what is the point to it?

No, there is no such test.

And you probably should stop watching too much p orno.

[briax]

Don't be so bad lah.

...

The doc will also ask if you are a homosexual too. So if you want, you can declare but I think not many do so.

I think the MO will ask you if you are homosexual. If you do, they will send you to a psychologist for assessment. Not that they think gay men are mentally ill, they are doing this because there are too much straight boys who are trying to escape from the hardship of National Services. This is to prevent false declaration. We have too many ball-less straight men.

At no point your parents will be informed about your sexuality. But to my best knowledge, they will call your parents to find out more about you, to give them a better assessment if you are telling the truth. They will explain to your parents that you might be having difficulties adapting to army life and that is the reason they are calling. I collected these information from the SAF counsellors, not completely sure if this is the accurate info.

And no, no professional medical services will ask you to strip and jump in full view of others. If they do, you should ask why. You are serving National Services, not in a Nazi camp.

Edited February 22, 2011 by briax

[Guest surelyugessian]

i can't stand watching men of all ages wearing army uniforms

turns me off totally.

i have absolutely no interest in seeing young men naked, whether they are muscular or not.

if this test does exist, it will fail to exlicit any such information from me.

but i get aroused just seeing chubby, fat bottom ah pek.

i don't think i can find any chubby, fat bottom ah pek in army facilities.

maybe the drink seller in the canteen....?

i know there's one chubby, fat bottom ah pek who used to run a zhicha stall in one of the airbase.

this ah pek likes to have his big bottom hole serviced good good

he often ask for second helping in the same night.

[Guest Ididit]

I did it at redhill body checkup at 2005. The 2 NS men(paramedic) asked me to take off the pant n jump... Then that's all... If NS man ask u to do this, please help me to ask them the reason... Thank you very much

[Guest Guest]

If you scared your didi will stand up, make sure you cum/jerk/drain completely before reporting for your medical check-up. I'm sure at that point, you wont have any interest to whomever in the room naked or not.

[DonkeyKong]

Sorry, but LOL at TS!!

[Guest Yip Peng]

i can't stand watching men of all ages wearing army uniforms

turns me off totally.

i have absolutely no interest in seeing young men naked, whether they are muscular or not.

if this test does exist, it will fail to exlicit any such information from me.

but i get aroused just seeing chubby, fat bottom ah pek.

i don't think i can find any chubby, fat bottom ah pek in army facilities.

maybe the drink seller in the canteen....?

i know there's one chubby, fat bottom ah pek who used to run a zhicha stall in one of the airbase.

this ah pek likes to have his big bottom hole serviced good good

he often ask for second helping in the same night.

Haha, i share u my experience with an ah pei who live alone in a 1-room rental flat.

I was once a volunteer in a church group delivering meal to this ah pei flat when i knew him.

He's friendly, invite me to visit him even thought i no longer doing volunteer work.

Got one occassion as i visit him in the late afternoon, he was tired and was dozing off for his usual afternoon nap.

As he was dozing off, i suggest he lie down on his mattress and we can continue to chat awhile.

As i spoke to him a few sentences, he doesn't seem to reply me, and i look, he's fast asleep.

He was wearing his 555 white singlet and a china type pyjamas pants.

I tested his alertness by trying to move his hand, he didn't response, so fast asleep.

This is the 1st time i touch his bird. His bird is so soft and dangling as he only wears one pc.

I got close to sniff, got a bit of urine smell but still smell fresh. I continue to touch for awhile till i find i got to

stop as i might awake him.

I wake him up and tell him i take my leave. He close the door and continue his nap.

Good that i leave him at that time, lest i might 'rape the ah pei'.

Haha, it quite awhile i since visit him, maybe some day again.

[Guest Dancing Queen]

I did it at redhill body checkup at 2005. The 2 NS men(paramedic) asked me to take off the pant n jump... Then that's all... If NS man ask u to do this, please help me to ask them the reason... Thank you very much

You're so so lucky, the medics just want you to take off pant n jump. The medics I saw wanted me to do a Chippendale-dance !!! for good 20 min before letting me go. Later I joined the MDC unit. :lol:

[Eddy]

I did it at redhill body checkup at 2005. The 2 NS men(paramedic) asked me to take off the pant n jump... Then that's all... If NS man ask u to do this, please help me to ask them the reason... Thank you very much

Sounds like you got sexually harrassed. you poor thing.

Kennah sabo by closet case gays in army to strip for them and then jump so they can beoh your dangling cock and balls.

You probably should have charged them a fee for watching your strip show and bouncing performance.

[Guest Random Guy]

was he bespectacled?

No,He did not wear spectacles.

[Guest Erotictales]

: )

[Guest Guest]

you mean cmpb has a mdeical chart with an nsman posing nude? is it still there?

[Clickclock]

I've recently gone for a med check up twice at the CMPB, will be enlisted this year

but some things came to my mind

Why is SAF treating aj ppl like us so differently?

i mean, we have the body, we're fit enough , but just because we like other men we're dumped into admin, clerk duty? most of the time its a loner post(from what ive heard)

despite our sexuality, we are still sporeans n we still have the responsibility to defend our country, well we ARE in clerk, im just saying, if you are a pes A/B and gay, why should you be doing clerky stuff?

well ive heard all of these from rumours , so they might not be true.

i've spoken to the doc, abt what happens if i declare im gay in ns.

he told me I will have to report to a psciatrist and my parents will be informed. im fine with the pschiatrist, but totally not fine with my parents knowing. Shoudn't i have the right to keep my sexuality a secret?

i repeat, all of these r rumours ive heard, except the doc pschiatrist part, i heard it from the doc himself. other than that it might not be true.

i cantspell pschiatrist properly sry, so for the time being ill just say it as sighkyatrist

and if this "speaking out" is against the law, plz tell me asap, im not really familiar with specific laws here.

Edited February 28, 2011 by GachiMuchi

[Guest Your CO!]

I've recently gone for a med check up twice at the CMPB, will be enlisted this year

but some things came to my mind

Why is SAF treating aj ppl like us so differently?

i mean, we have the body, we're fit enough , but just because we like other men we're dumped into admin, clerk duty? most of the time its a loner post(from what ive heard)

despite our sexuality, we are still sporeans n we still have the responsibility to defend our country, well we ARE in clerk, im just saying, if you are a pes A/B and gay, why should you be doing clerky stuff?

well ive heard all of these from rumours , so they might not be true.

i've spoken to the doc, abt what happens if i declare im gay in ns.

he told me I will have to report to a psciatrist and my parents will be informed. im fine with the pschiatrist, but totally not fine with my parents knowing. Shoudn't i have the right to keep my sexuality a secret?

i repeat, all of these r rumours ive heard, except the doc pschiatrist part, i heard it from the doc himself. other than that it might not be true.

i cantspell pschiatrist properly sry, so for the time being ill just say it as sighkyatrist

and if this "speaking out" is against the law, plz tell me asap, im not really familiar with specific laws here.

Why you talk so much?

I need Pes A and B clerks to go outfield with me and carry my signal sets and documents! You think who set up the command post arrr? Then command post who do sentry duty?? Limpeh is it!?

Clerk or no clerk, when you go outfield, still need to carry rifle hor! Not a pen!

[Eddy]

Why you talk so much?

I need Pes A and B clerks to go outfield with me and carry my signal sets and documents! You think who set up the command post arrr? Then command post who do sentry duty?? Limpeh is it!?

Clerk or no clerk, when you go outfield, still need to carry rifle hor! Not a pen!

Easy for you to say.

What is the vocation pay for a "combat clerk"?

What kind of future will he have?

Got balls tell MINDEF to employ cheaper better faster foreigners to be your combat clerk to let you ass rape outfield.

For all you guys out there who have not gone into NS yet, or are thinking of declaring in your NS now.

Like it or not, even you CO is helpless when MINDEF has bias policies against gay who declare themselves.

Either stay silent and fcuk off after Active Duty, or declare and be blacklisted, both during and after ORD.

[MeowPrince]

For all you guys out there who have not gone into NS yet, or are thinking of declaring in your NS now.

Like it or not, even you CO is helpless when MINDEF has bias policies against gay who declare themselves.

Either stay silent and fcuk off after Active Duty, or declare and be blacklisted, both during and after ORD.

Not so much Mindef, but society itself that is still immature about it.

Sometimes, being sensible and discreet about it serves you better in the long term. Declaring and then showing off your gay nature serves no good, where NS is concerned, regardless of where you serve (SAF/SPF/SCDF). Much of society is still quite homophobic.

Better to just enlist, serve and enjoy the process. Imagining that declaring means you'll gain is foolish. Records do not have to be official to stay with you for life. Other people talk too, and word-of-mouth can do a lot of harm.

Hope this helps pre-enlistees think before they jump the gun.

[Guest Erotictales]

I like to share this incident that happened many, many years ago.

I got to meet a much younger guy via irc. He declared. I asked him on the wisdom of that, and he got quite verbal, to say the least, on how paranoid I am and how uninformed. His primary argument was that he had no intention whateverso to join the civil service. So who cares about records?

Couple of months down the road, a mutual friend of ours, an actual Medical Officer, told me the young guy had a very bad patch. He actually pestered our friend feverishly for help, because for some reason, the whole thing blew up. I didn't want to gossip, so I don't know the finer details. All I knew was, his entire family found out, via incriminating questions asked by the psychologist. And somehow, the records had a sort of implication towards the young guy's further education. (Maybe a scholarship he started considering)

[Guest Guest]

Hi guys. Little afraid about army enlistment about the gay tests and I'm very scared that I'll get turned on when seeing hot guys changing. Afraid that I'll be laughed at. Any solutions !!

[Guest Speer]

well, did you declare that you're gay on the med list?

or r u enlisted normally?

[Guest recruit.. no worry]

do many many jerk-off before the test.. :oops:

honestly, i wont stand up if there is a hot guy stand in front of me... unless he touch me

[IamAlex]

don't think you have to worry bout being turned on looking at guys, never heard of a gay test as it will be a form of discrimination however if you choose to declare that you're gay (302) then you will lead a totally diff life from the usual national service

[Clickclock]

do many many jerk-off before the test.. :oops:

honestly, i wont stand up if there is a hot guy stand in front of me... unless he touch me

If there's a hot guy in front of me, i'll just go goo goo eyed.

[Guest jayy]

Don't worry. You'll be too preoccupied thinking about when the tests will be over.....or feeling depressed that you're going to enlist soon. My dick getting hard cause of hot naked guys was the least of my worries back then.

[Guest hunk who wants a hunk]

Sigh, army brings back good memories. All the tanned hunky cuties inside...

[craze]

normally around when will you recieve your enlistment letter? cause i have not recieve the letter yet even though i have done my med checkup in jan.

And does it mean that when you get pes A, you will get the NDU letter? cause like all my friends in pes A get but i didnt get. ya.

[Guest -Guest-]

what way to generate curiosity for that mysterious medical chart..

don't think they have it there anymore. don't remember seeing no chart in the 2007...

[Guest Erotictales]

Those were times less prudish.

Where a NSF could be made or bribed into being photographed nude, frontal with face? For the purpose of "work?"

I wonder who has the negatives.

[Isolated]

Hey guys, just curious to know, what underwear do you all wear during NS other than freeballing of course. Are sheer / sexy underwear common or no one cares? Thanks!